The 'Committee'

You're telling me there is a statistical equation to win a football game? Ha.

No, you're right it's entirely random.

look at this screen shot... this sums up our "Committee"

1 of these players will sign and one we will fail on, like many other in the last 18 months!!

have a guess which one we'll get?

So how's the transfer committee looking now?

So how's the transfer committee looking now?

We're in 7th, ask again in May.

We're in 7th, ask again in May.

Like we waited till May before slagging off the new signings you mean?

Like we waited till May before slagging off the new signings you mean?

Great shout lad

Well today Can,Moreno,Markovic all instrumental. Notable contributions from Lovern,Lallana and Super Mario. Our summer business is looking better all the time. Thing is as well the first three could be part of the club for many many years to come.

A bizarre season - the new, much maligned players all made their significant contribution in the game.

A stark contrast compared to a couple of months ago.

Like we waited till May before slagging off the new signings you mean?

I agree with you Hollywood in that we shouldn't judge this seasons signings so far, but where this committee and their Football Manager game or whatever programme that gives them statistics on players has cost us is last season. Alberto and Aspas were frankly embarrassing for the club and that was, what, £15 million down the drain? We'll be lucky to recoup half of that money on these duds. Add to that other 'speculative signings' on youngsters, and it's very much failed (Illori's career is going nowhere at the minute).

For all the duds that Fallows and Edwards stupid computer game has cost us, we could have at least bought one top quality player instead.

Great shout lad

Well today Can,Moreno,Markovic all instrumental. Notable contributions from Lovern,Lallana and Super Mario. Our summer business is looking better all the time. Thing is as well the first three could be part of the club for many many years to come.

Can was never in doubt. He proved himself from the outset. As for the others, Moreno, Markovic and Lallana are far too inconsistent to be considered successful purchases and Lovren and Balotelli (through no fault of his own) have been nothing short of disastrous buys. One game does not justify the money spent in the Summer, money that, as Son of a Gun says, would have better spent on a few top, top quality players. It was obvious we needed to replace Suarez but we didn't; it was obvious that we needed competition, if not an outright replacement for Mignolet, but we didn't. Instead we once again went after players who might become stars in the future, rather than building upon last season's success with established talent. A decision that cost us the first half of this season. This committee is persistently getting it wrong far more often than its getting it right. They have four transfer windows under their belt and only one can be counted as a success.

Like we waited till May before slagging off the new signings you mean?

I can give you an answer now if you wish? One good game does not equate to the committee being amazing at transfers.

A large portion of the transfers they made have been flops so far, a few of them have been good regularly and a couple more are starting to play much better.

The signings seem to build chemistry between them which is a great thing.

But honestly, this thing with the "committee" should stop, i don't think there is another club having such sort of entity deciding the transfers.

The signings seem to build chemistry between them which is a great thing.

But honestly, this thing with the "committee" should stop, i don't think there is another club having such sort of entity deciding the transfers.

Look mate, I'm not having a go but you seem to know very little about football. In one form or another EVERY major club has a simlar structure in one form or another. Arsenal is the only one of our rivals I  can think of which is the exception.

Ancelotti, a three-times Champions league winner at the biggest and most prestigious club in the world, gets told who the club will be buying to fit in his team.

We are talking deals here that can total hundreds of millions of pounds across a contract - there' s no way that can be entrusted to a manager who is likely to be at the club for an average of two seasons or less.

Look mate, I'm not having a go but you seem to know very little about football. In one form or another EVERY major club has a simlar structure in one form or another. Arsenal is the only one of our rivals I  can think of which is the exception.

Ancelotti, a three-times Champions league winner at the biggest and most prestigious club in the world, gets told who the club will be buying to fit in his team.

We are talking deals here that can total hundreds of millions of pounds across a contract - there' s no way that can be entrusted to a manager who is likely to be at the club for an average of two seasons or less.

The difference is our committee has spent a hell of a lot of money, with relatively little success stories to show for it this far!
They passed up a great chance to mount a title challenge this season (by failing to bring in a suitable replacement for Luis),to build a squad that MAY compete for titles in the future!

Providing that they're not cherry picked away from us by the top European teams.

Look mate, I'm not having a go but you seem to know very little about football. In one form or another EVERY major club has a simlar structure in one form or another. Arsenal is the only one of our rivals I  can think of which is the exception.

Ancelotti, a three-times Champions league winner at the biggest and most prestigious club in the world, gets told who the club will be buying to fit in his team.

We are talking deals here that can total hundreds of millions of pounds across a contract - there' s no way that can be entrusted to a manager who is likely to be at the club for an average of two seasons or less.

Mate, every big club has one person who decides the transfers, whether it's the owner/president/director of football/manager, who also takes the blame if a transfered player flops. We don't know who are the members of this "committee", excuse me but can you post me a link where you heard a "committee" deciding on transfers at other big clubs ?

Don't tell me i know little about football, because i didn't see anywhere this sort of entity. I know that maybe Abramovich or Florentino Perez consults with others, but in the end he decides on what player to sign and he takes the blame if that transfer fails.

The difference is our committee has spent a hell of a lot of money, with relatively little success stories to show for it this far!
They passed up a great chance to mount a title challenge this season (by failing to bring in a suitable replacement for Luis),to build a squad that MAY compete for titles in the future!

Providing that they're not cherry picked away from us by the top European teams.

40% hit rate is the average for a window.

You say "replace" Luis but who with? Falcao maybe?

We needed more than one player with the additional games and time for them to learn the new system.

I agree with you Hollywood in that we shouldn't judge this seasons signings so far, but where this committee and their Football Manager game or whatever programme that gives them statistics on players has cost us is last season. Alberto and Aspas were frankly embarrassing for the club and that was, what, £15 million down the drain? We'll be lucky to recoup half of that money on these duds. Add to that other 'speculative signings' on youngsters, and it's very much failed (Illori's career is going nowhere at the minute).

For all the duds that Fallows and Edwards stupid computer game has cost us, we could have at least bought one top quality player instead.

Disagree, particularly with the bold. Aspas is performing fairly well for Sevilla, and Alberto is doing alright too. Nothing to suggest they'll make it here, but well enough. Both Malaga and Sevilla would probably pay what we did for them. Maybe a bit less from Malaga because they aren't as rich, but I wouldn't be too surprised if someone else took a punt on him.

Ilori is fit again now and starting games (and performing rather well in them). If he can stay fit (which is admittedly a big ask for him) I am fully confident he will be a first teamer for Bordeux for the rest of the season and make a strong case for his inclusion next season. Don't see us losing money on him anyway.

And finally; about 50% of transfers fail. Unless we can see the future, every team will always make mistakes in the transfer market. Hindsight is 20:20, and dismissing statistical analysis isn't wise. It has found us good players too.

Our transfers obviously aren't perfect, but the players picked out are not going to be the ones who cost us.

40% hit rate is the average for a window.

You say "replace" Luis but who with? Falcao maybe?

We needed more than one player with the additional games and time for them to learn the new system.

I wasn't suggesting we bought one player, clearly the thread bare squad needed strengthening, key areas needed to be addressed, but after Suarez left, a top striker should've been a priority.

Mate, every big club has one person who decides the transfers, whether it's the owner/president/director of football/manager, who also takes the blame if a transfered player flops. We don't know who are the members of this "committee", excuse me but can you post me a link where you heard a "committee" deciding on transfers at other big clubs ?

Don't tell me i know little about football, because i didn't see anywhere this sort of entity. I know that maybe Abramovich or Florentino Perez consults with others, but in the end he decides on what player to sign and he takes the blame if that transfer fails.

Not the greatest example I know, but.....

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has confidence in the club's transfer policy.
Mourinho stated decisions will be taken by committee, just as at other clubs.
“When it comes to selling and buying, I’ve never decided by myself. They are decisions that belong to everybody. But there’s a financial situation and I’m not responsible for that.
When you buy and sell, you have a group of people who must work together and I’ve done that at every club with different structures."

Villas-Boas has been assured he will be given financial backing and is happy with the club’s plans to have a specialised transfer committee that will include Tim Sherwood, who is highly-rated at White Hart Lane and will be promoted from his existing role as technical co-ordinator.

We don't know who are the members of this "committee",

Not getting involved in the discussion of whether a committee is superior to a director of football (surely it all depends on personnel? I don't want Baldini as our director of football for example or even LVG who was who the club wanted as our DoF but Rodgers persuaded FSG to use a committee instead). Just a fact check; we do know who is on the committee.

Brendan Rodgers
First Team Manager

Dave Fallows
Head of Recruitment

Michael Edwards
Head of Performance and Analysis

Ian Ayre
Managing Director

Not getting involved in the discussion of whether a committee is superior to a director of football (surely it all depends on personnel? I don't want Baldini as our director of football for example or even LVG who was who the club wanted as our DoF but Rodgers persuaded FSG to use a committee instead). Just a fact check; we do know who is on the committee.

Brendan Rodgers
First Team Manager

Dave Fallows
Head of Recruitment

Michael Edwards
Head of Performance and Analysis

Ian Ayre
Managing Director

Thanks, i didn't know

Mate, every big club has one person who decides the transfers, whether it's the owner/president/director of football/manager, who also takes the blame if a transfered player flops. We don't know who are the members of this "committee", excuse me but can you post me a link where you heard a "committee" deciding on transfers at other big clubs ?

Don't tell me i know little about football, because i didn't see anywhere this sort of entity. I know that maybe Abramovich or Florentino Perez consults with others, but in the end he decides on what player to sign and he takes the blame if that transfer fails.

1. We know exactly who is on the committee.

2. Barcelona's transfers are handled by a group headed by the director of football (famously Txixi Begiristain (sp) who has now gone to man City to do the same job. Bayern Munich's transfers are decided by a group led by Mattias Sammer, the Sporting Director. Juventus's transfers are handled by a group headed by Beppe Marotta. Are those clubs big enough for you?

3. Brendan has the casting vote / veto on player transfers as he himself has confirmed on numerous occassions. Abramovich / Perez etc don't just dream up whoever they want - they consult the group, as Brendan does. You have no idea how much or how little power Brendan has in comparison to the managers of any other big club in Europe so it really leads me to question what the hell you are going on about.

EDIT: Just seen your last post. The fact you are banging on about the committee when you don't even know who is on it - information that is readily available on the internet in a few seconds of searching on Google pretty much confirms you don't know much about the club - or the sport in general. It's not exactly a secret mate.

1. We know exactly who is on the committee.

2. Barcelona's transfers are handled by a group headed by the director of football (famously Txixi Begiristain (sp) who has now gone to man City to do the same job. Bayern Munich's transfers are decided by a group led by Mattias Sammer, the Sporting Director. Juventus's transfers are handled by a group headed by Beppe Marotta. Are those clubs big enough for you?

3. Brendan has the casting vote / veto on player transfers as he himself has confirmed on numerous occassions. Abramovich / Perez etc don't just dream up whoever they want - they consult the group, as Brendan does. You have no idea how much or how little power Brendan has in comparison to the managers of any other big club in Europe so it really leads me to question what the hell you are going on about.

EDIT: Just seen your last post. The fact you are banging on about the committee when you don't even know who is on it - information that is readily available on the internet in a few seconds of searching on Google pretty much confirms you don't know much about the club - or the sport in general. It's not exactly a secret mate.

Maybe i didn't want to know who the members of the Committee are, i wasn't so interested in knowing this because it just seemed odd for me this expression. For me Brendan is the one who decides what players come and go.

Believe me, i know who decides transfers on big clubs, everyone of them has a capable director of football, whether it is Sammer, Monchi, Corvino or Braida. I think this should happen also at our club, we should hire a capable director of football who alongside Brendan decides on transfers. Not the Comolli type. Ian Ayre is useless by the way.

EDIT: Just seen your last post. The fact you are banging on about the committee when you don't even know who is on it - information that is readily available on the internet in a few seconds of searching on Google pretty much confirms you don't know much about the club - or the sport in general. It's not exactly a secret mate.

I'm actually willing to give him a pass on that mate. Yes it is very easy to find out who is on it, but so many of our fans describe it as mysterious and complain about not knowing who is on it, that the notion it is secretive becomes ubiquitous. Once that happens, its not surprising that other fans just assume you can't find out. I mean I've never googled a list of all active Russian spies, because I just assume that the information isn't available.