Pre-Match: Liverpool FC v QPR 2nd May 15.00

Most of us seem to have given up on the season but apparently there is a game on at the weekend.
With nothing but pride left to play for, it's time we tried something radical like scrapping the players and tactics which have failed to deliver.


                                                Migs

                    Manquillo         Skrtel   Lovren      Moreno

                                         
                                  Can                   Henderson
                       Ibe                                          Raheem

                                     Markovic       Yesil

                                 

Gerrard will be back pal, he was rested on tuesday. Lucas is training again as well.

don't be surprised if Lallana starts too.

No way couthino will be dropped.

Gerrard will be back pal, he was rested on tuesday. Lucas is training again as well.

don't be surprised if Lallana starts too.

No way couthino will be dropped.

I was not dropping Coutinho mate just think he could do with a rest and a chance to try out something different rather than the Johnson, Lambert, Gerrard etc

I was not dropping Coutinho mate just think he could do with a rest and a chance to try out something different rather than the Johnson, Lambert, Gerrard etc

Fair doos ma man. Get where your coming from, I just don't see BR doing it just yet, once 5th or 6th is secure he will defo put in some of the u-21s. But I can see gerrard playing very game now, it is his last month as LFC player. :-(

might be this. 3-4-3

----------------- Mings ----------------

------- Can - Skirtl - Lovren ---------
- Hendo - Gerrard - Allen - Johnson -
------- Coutinho--Lallana------------
------------- Sterling -----------------

If that can't beat QPR we should just pack in and start a baseball team.

Absolutely no point playing Johnson, Gerrard, Balotelli, Borini, Lambert and anyone else who isn't going to be here next season.

None of them have done much to merit a start anyway and if Brendan is serious about turning things around I think he should start this weekend.

Mignolet

Manquillo Skrtel Lovren Moreno

Can

Henderson Allen

Markovic Coutinho Ibe

fowk I forgot about Ibe.

And BR was talking today about Gerrard raring to go for tmrw, and mentioned enrique & Johnson as quality full backs.

Absolutely no point playing Johnson, Gerrard, Balotelli, Borini, Lambert and anyone else who isn't going to be here next season.

None of them have done much to merit a start anyway and if Brendan is serious about turning things around I think he should start this weekend.

Mignolet

Manquillo Skrtel Lovren Moreno

Can

Henderson Allen

Markovic Coutinho Ibe

i would 2nd that team mate

Might be this, not what I think it should be, just what I think BR will do. He may throw a curveball in and start Lambo, but I doubt it. Lucas is fit too, but probably be in bench.

----------------- Mings ----------------
------- Can - Skirtl - Lovren ---------
- Ibe - Gerrard - Hendo - Johnson -
------- Coutinho--Lallana------------
------------- Sterling -----------------

Twitter rumours that Gerrard & Lambo will start.

Twitter rumours that Gerrard & Lambo will start.

Farewell party for all the leavers!

Gerrard yes, he will want to be in for last few games of his LFC career defo.

Shop window for like's of Lambo. Borini might even make bench.

Gerrard yes, he will want to be in for last few games of his LFC career defo.

Shop window for like's of Lambo. Borini might even make bench.

I couldn't care less about what Stevie wants. He's leaving.

Lambert hardly needs a shop window as we every one knows what he's about.

I couldn't care less about what Stevie wants. He's leaving.

Lambert hardly needs a shop window as we every one knows what he's about.

So Si, do we play Balotelli up front on his own again? He has been cr@p yet Rodgers keeps picking him.
Would it not be good if we got something different to try in this match? As it is it wouldn't make any difference with the same team as before the way we are playing.

Also, he should/should have used the large squad he has rather than try to *prove everyone* wrong about Balotelli by picking him over and over again when he is absolute dross.

No confidence in this game, the team, or the manager right now. and with QPR fighting for survival I believe they will put in a dogged performance.

1:2 to QPR I reckon.

How depressing.

So Si, do we play Balotelli up front on his own again? He has been cr@p yet Rodgers keeps picking him.
Would it not be good if we got something different to try in this match? As it is it wouldn't make any difference with the same team as before the way we are playing.

Also, he should/should have used the large squad he has rather than try to *prove everyone* wrong about Balotelli by picking him over and over again when he is absolute dross.

See my post earlier mate.

There's more than a handful of players I wouldn't play again this season.

Mario is very much among them.

Markovic, Coutinho and Ibe front three for me.

Balo is injured.

So its toss up between Lambo & Borini or sterling again.

disagree about Stevie G, he is still the Captain right up until he leaves, he will play most if not all games from now till end of season. With a bit of luck he might just have a good game as well.

So Si, do we play Balotelli up front on his own again? He has been cr@p yet Rodgers keeps picking him.
Would it not be good if we got something different to try in this match? As it is it wouldn't make any difference with the same team as before the way we are playing.

Also, he should/should have used the large squad he has rather than try to *prove everyone* wrong about Balotelli by picking him over and over again when he is absolute dross.

You never know mate playing a big stationary lump up front might work on the 35th time of asking!!

Farewell party for all the leavers!

And if we lose it might be for more than just the players.

Sounds like Gerrard will be playing.  As much as I would like to see us play with two up front - I know that Brendan won't do that. 

Twitter rumours that Gerrard & Lambo will start.

Yay we are saved, two of the quickest and most dynamic players we have! No doubt the players will be all fired up as usual under the sage motivational words of Brendan "best manager in the world or at least for LFC" Rodgers.

Going for a 2 0 win for the Reds tomorrow, although after the last three abysmal performances, against Aston Villa, West Brom and Hull, there is little to be confident about. I suppose it is just being a Liverpool supporter you have to carry on showing belief no matter how bad things seem.

Balo is injured.

So its toss up between Lambo & Borini or sterling again.

disagree about Stevie G, he is still the Captain right up until he leaves, he will play most if not all games from now till end of season. With a bit of luck he might just have a good game as well.

What difference has it made so far with Balo injured or not?
Also, why o why or why *doesn't* Brendan play TWO up front? It worked last year. Two is better than one even if it is not of the same quality as Suarez.

Does my head in that - not playing two up front.

What difference has it made so far with Balo injured or not?
Also, why o why or why *doesn't* Brendan play TWO up front? It worked last year. Two is better than one even if it is not of the same quality as Suarez.

Does my head in that - not playing two up front.

Debs touched on this and it is probably true his preferred formation is probably 433 with one striker and two wide players.

Great formation if you have the players!

We don;t have 2 strikers as good as studger & suarez though. Last season Br found a way of playing them in same team.

I would like to see Lambo given a shot with somebody up along with him, maybe playing sterling off him.

Please please please BR do not play Can in the defence.

Put him in the midfield see what he can do.

Should have rested some of the kids last night and played them tomorrow because I don't see any point playing the first teamers that will almost certainly leave.

Please please please BR do not play Can in the defence.

Put him in the midfield see what he can do.

That's next year - I hope at least.

4 at the back Manquellio, Skrtel, Lovren, Moreno
             
                           Ibe CAN Henderson
                                   
                                   Lallana
                   
                        Markovich        Borini
Subs
Sterling
Gerrard
Allen
coutinho

bit of movement at the top some shop window time for borini to hopefully raise his price, rest coutinho and bring sterling on for Ibe at some point. give lallana and markovich 90 min

Just win, don't care how, just win.

Mignolet

Can   Skrtel   Sahko

Ibe   Henderson   Lucas   Moreno

Coutinho   Lallana

Sterling

Bench: Jones, Lovren, Toure, Manquillo, Johnson, Markovic, Allen, Gerrard, Lambert, Borini, Balotelli

We're at home, I want to see goals. I don't want to see old man Lambert, Mad Mario or headless Cicken Borini anywhere near the starting eleven and above all I don't want to see us in a situation where we're desperate enough to put any of them on never mind them all!

If three at the back doesn't work, go to a 4-2-3-1 formation, haul Can off, put either Manquillo or Johnson on (i.e. a proper fullback) and push Ibe in to the three behind Sterling. It might sound strange but I'd sooner loose this match trying to win it than draw it because the players don't turn up again. I'm a Liverpool supporter, I want to see a performance worthy of the shirt.

Mignolet

Can   Skrtel   Sahko

Ibe   Henderson   Lucas   Moreno

Coutinho   Lallana

Sterling

Bench: Jones, Lovren, Toure, Manquillo, Johnson, Markovic, Allen Gerrard, Lambert, Borini, Balotelli

We're at home, I want to see goals. I don't want to see old man Lambert, Mad Mario or headless Cicken Borini anywhere near the starting eleven and above all I don't want to see us in a situation where we're desperate enough to put any of them on never mind them all!

If three at the back doesn't work, go to a 4-2-3-1 formation, haul Can off, put either Manquillo or Johnson on (i.e. a proper fullback) and push Ibe in to the three behind Sterling. It might sound strange but I'd sooner loose this match trying to win it than draw it because the players don't turn up again. I'm a Liverpool supporter, I want to see a performance worthy of the shirt.

Is Lucas fit enough to start? I bet we see Allen with Henderson, especially after Allen's performance against Hull.

Is Lucas fit enough to start? I bet we see Allen with Henderson, especially after Allen's performance against Hull.

He's supposed to be fit but if he isn't, Allen.

           mignolet
manquillo skrtel. Lovren. Moreno
.          Lucas
can.             Henderson
coutinho  sterling.  Ibe

Why is everyone insisting Can plays in the back 3?

Over the past 6 or so games he has been found out at CB or RB....I don't get it.

Why is everyone insisting Can plays in the back 3?

Over the past 6 or so games he has been found out at CB or RB....I don't get it.

Because the alternative is Lovren or Toure and neither can play the ball out from the back.

Because the alternative is Lovren or Toure and neither can play the ball out from the back.

Fair enough but I don't agree.

I want to see him add some grit and energy in the middle. We have defenders let them do their job.

Because the alternative is Lovren or Toure and neither can play the ball out from the back.

They can both play the ball out of the back the issue is when our midfield dont show for the ball or ping it straight back then it puts a lot of pressure on the defenders to be able to bring the ball out which only Sakho and Can can do effectively. Thats why we see Lovren lumping it so often.

The answer is for our midfielders Hendo, Allen and Gerrard to be able to take the ball with their back to goal shield it and turn and make the pass. Apart from Lucas all our midfielders are poor under pressure their default is to pass it back rather than being brave and taking responsibility.

Mignolet
Manquillo     Skrtel      Lovren      Moreno
Can     Hendo
Ibe       Coutinho       Lallana
Sterling

But really, it's nearly impossible to come up with 11 deserving players after the last few matches.

Let's take a quick look at what they've got to offer...
1 Green
15 Onuoha
22 Dunne
4 Caulker
6 Hill
7 Phillips M
8 Barton
30 Sandro
20 Henry
25 Zamora
9 Austin

4-0 .. Dunne own goal one of them.. again ..

Barton, red card.. or quiet as a mouse...he could go either way..

Hard to work up a lot of excitement before this one. QPR will be scrapping for everything (or should be).

Mignolet
Can   Skrtel  Lovren
Ibe   Henderson   Gerrard   Moreno
Coutinho   Lallana
Sterling

Cmon Stevie mate, need a blast from the past...

Hard to work up a lot of excitement before this one. QPR will be scrapping for everything (or should be).

Mignolet
Can   Skrtel  Lovren
Ibe   Henderson   Gerrard   Moreno
Coutinho   Lallana
Sterling

Cmon Stevie mate, need a blast from the past...

Drop Allen our only performer against Hull?

Drop Allen our only performer against Hull?

If Allen gets dropped for Gerrard he has every right to be pissed off.

Agree with many....incredibly hard to find any passion for this coming fixture and, to be honest any of the games left this season.
Been an utter disaster of a season for many reasons.
For this game though i would go for a 4-2-3-1

Mig

Manquillo
Skrtel
Sakho
Moreno

Henderson
Allen

Marko
Coutinho
Lallana

Sterling

Ibe, Lambert and Gerrard off the bench

Hope for a 2-0 win but we'll probably put in another dire performance and get a 1-1

Can't wait for this season to end and the clear out of dead wood to begin and the hope of signing some actual quality players....

Never been so unexcited for a game in my whole life

Nobody is listening to the rumours from the club, Gerrard & Lambo are starting. Fact !

Agree Allen will be hard done by if he gets dropped\rested.

Think lucas will come of the bench for Gerrarrd after 70 mins.

Been feeling really flat since last week, this match feels like a bit of a dead rubber contest now.
Still at the end of the day we still get to see Liverpool players, which is Kind of the point of supporting them 

What I want most today is a change in attitude from the players, go at a gem from the start.

Never been so unexcited for a game in my whole life

Know the feeling, mate. I'm having more fun doing my assignment right now than looking forward to the game.

Just hoping there is some life in the team. Something to get me off my arse and get excited - probably only Coutinho could do that right now.

I hope to smeg we get all 3 points here because I want the Gaffer to have one more season to sort this out. If we lose today, I think that may be it

#transitionalperiodagain

That is all

We need a big result today to take us into the last few games with some confidence, really need to pick up some points, and end season on a wee high. #minimumrequirement

I'd like to see Brannagan get some time on the pitch today

I'd like to see Brannagan get some time on the pitch today

just hope we are in a position to do so, 5-0 up at half time may be a start !

Just about to head off for the match, hope the football is better than the weather!

Let's take a quick look at what they've got to offer...
1 Green
15 Onuoha
22 Dunne
4 Caulker
6 Hill
7 Phillips M
8 Barton
30 Sandro
20 Henry
25 Zamora
9 Austin

4-0 .. Dunne own goal one of them.. again ..

Barton, red card.. or quiet as a mouse...he could go either way..

Mate did you see the hull line up? Names mean nothing when you have no heart

Most of us seem to have given up on the season but apparently there is a game on at the weekend.
With nothing but pride left to play for, it's time we tried something radical like scrapping the players and tactics which have failed to deliver.


                                                Migs

                    Manquillo         Skrtel   Lovren      Moreno

                                         
                                  Can                   Henderson
                       Ibe                                          Raheem

                                     Markovic       Yesil

                                 

I can see the sense in that. I'd just change Lambert for  Markovic . With Markovic taking Sterlings place.

Mate did you see the hull line up? Names mean nothing when you have no heart

Very very true.

Pre Match Topic Locked.

In game thread here
http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,47646.0.html