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      ajayi82
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      Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Jun 05, 2015 12:54:08 pm
      Skrtel now the latest to publically slag off his employers over contract issues and we even had a 20yr old novice come out and talk publically about Liverpool.
      should Brendan and the owners enforce a strict media blackout from all the playes unless its for a pre approved confernce/article etc to stop 2 thins
      1. making the club look bad
      2. making themselves look bad

      failure to stick to this means a fine, for example dropped from the team or a weeks wages something as simple as that. it would mean getting them to all sign a declaration agreeing to this which is easier said than done but it must be atleast mentioned to the squad as whole becuase its a joke now
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #1: Jun 05, 2015 01:55:00 pm
      Skrtel now the latest to publically slag off his employers over contract issues and we even had a 20yr old novice come out and talk publically about Liverpool.
      should Brendan and the owners enforce a strict media blackout from all the playes unless its for a pre approved confernce/article etc to stop 2 thins
      1. making the club look bad
      2. making themselves look bad

      failure to stick to this means a fine, for example dropped from the team or a weeks wages something as simple as that. it would mean getting them to all sign a declaration agreeing to this which is easier said than done but it must be atleast mentioned to the squad as whole becuase its a joke now

      I like the idea, I really do. It would send a strong message out, but on principle I would have to say no. We live in a free society where anyone is allowed to think and say what they like. I think this would be going down a dangerous road of censorship and restricting freedom of speech.

      I would much prefer the club issue "good conduct guide" like most employers and hope that players can be trusted enough to behave professionally. If they step out of line, it's their choice. They will make themselves look less professional, cause issues with their manager/teammates and stain their own reputation. It's not punishment enough, but it's certainly unfavourable. Manager can then decide to drop them for stepping out of line.

      But to stop players from speaking their mind is wrong for any developed society.
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      Reply #2: Jun 05, 2015 02:01:45 pm
      Skrtel now the latest to publically slag off his employers over contract issues and we even had a 20yr old novice come out and talk publically about Liverpool.
      should Brendan and the owners enforce a strict media blackout from all the playes unless its for a pre approved confernce/article etc to stop 2 thins
      1. making the club look bad
      2. making themselves look bad

      failure to stick to this means a fine, for example dropped from the team or a weeks wages something as simple as that. it would mean getting them to all sign a declaration agreeing to this which is easier said than done but it must be atleast mentioned to the squad as whole becuase its a joke now

      Maybe if FSG properly dealt with players contracts instead of F***ing players around.....

      Maybe Raheem ain't that guilty!!!
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      Reply #3: Jun 05, 2015 02:59:10 pm
      This should not be enforced,this should be respected by all the players in the club because they are here to play football and not to go out and cry to various media how they are not satisfied with the amount of money they get.Period.
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      Reply #4: Jun 05, 2015 03:30:08 pm
      For the thickos aye !  ;D
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      Reply #5: Jun 05, 2015 03:32:44 pm

      ;D, shall we name them?
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #6: Jun 06, 2015 04:21:26 am
      This should have been done straight away after Babel.

      It should be in the players contracts that they do not speak to the media or undertake social media outlets whilst in the clubs employ .
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #7: Jun 06, 2015 03:09:59 pm
      Maybe if FSG properly dealt with players contracts instead of f**king players around.....

      Maybe Raheem ain't that guilty!!!

      the evidence is there if anyone cares to look. They even forgot to re-sign the club Captain so Ayre and FSG have history.
      « Last Edit: Jun 06, 2015 07:08:23 pm by waltonl4 »
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      Reply #8: Jun 06, 2015 07:05:51 pm
      We're run by incompetent morons
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      Reply #9: Jun 06, 2015 07:14:51 pm
      Maybe if FSG properly dealt with players contracts instead of f**king players around.....

      Maybe Raheem ain't that guilty!!!

      Agree with this. There generally is no smoke, without a fire. FSG like to play hardball on contracts, it seems to always get out in the media, and we look like cheapskates.  Because ... when it comes to cash ... we ARE cheapskates...
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #10: Jun 06, 2015 07:40:59 pm
      No the club shouldn't enforce a media blackout cos -

      a) freedom of speech

      b) players could easily get round it by letting their agents do the sh*t-stirring

      c) the club would have made a rod for its own back cos it'd be continually having to discipline players for every infraction, however innocuous. ( Presumably would have to ban them for Twitter etc, or police everything they say on it). The unnecessary bad feeling this would cause would be ridiculous, leaving aside the club acting like a police state.

      Rather than having some iron law about it, far better to leave the manager the flexibility to use his judgement and drop anyone who he feels is seriously causing problems
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #11: Jun 07, 2015 08:35:31 pm
      At least when the players speak to the press they stick their name by their quotes.  Manager and owners both have a history of 'anonymous' press briefings.
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      Reply #12: Jun 07, 2015 08:38:06 pm
      Would be great, but I dont think we are allowed. Effectively the media pay the clubs the big bucks and there is a contractual agreement to oblige them.

      We can however cut back on the non mandatory media time... We seem to be wanting to discuss every ounce of our dealings.

      Theres a mole somewhere that needs to be shot.
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #13: Jun 07, 2015 10:02:59 pm
      At least when the players speak to the press they stick their name by their quotes.  Manager and owners both have a history of 'anonymous' press briefings.

      Good point.

      Let the players say what they want and then the club can judge whether it is out of order or not and can fine them.
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #14: Jun 08, 2015 12:53:51 pm
      No the club shouldn't enforce a media blackout cos -

      a) freedom of speech

      b) players could easily get round it by letting their agents do the sh*t-stirring

      c) the club would have made a rod for its own back cos it'd be continually having to discipline players for every infraction, however innocuous. ( Presumably would have to ban them for Twitter etc, or police everything they say on it). The unnecessary bad feeling this would cause would be ridiculous, leaving aside the club acting like a police state.

      Rather than having some iron law about it, far better to leave the manager the flexibility to use his judgement and drop anyone who he feels is seriously causing problems


      A) How does freedom of speech work within the corporate world again?

      B) They do!!

      C) Actually close to how Houllier used to manage the team, banned everything and wouldn't let the players have mobiles in the dressing room.

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      Reply #15: Jun 08, 2015 04:39:03 pm
      i dont think freedom of speach is a valid point, for example i'm in the military and if i went round slagging off the Queen or MPs in the press i dont think i would have a job.

      you cant publicly insult your employers in any other job and not be sacked so same goes for these bunch of overpaid superstars. I think massive fines for talking to the media without prior approval is the only way to get back to doing business behind closed doors. When you leave then you can say what you want but whilst employed by LFC you dont have that right IMO
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      Reply #16: Jun 08, 2015 04:48:41 pm
      The club should find out who keeps leaking stuff to the press and have them executed
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #17: Jun 08, 2015 04:53:50 pm
      The club should find out who keeps leaking stuff to the press and have them executed

      ;D maybe a touch extreme.
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      Reply #18: Jun 08, 2015 04:55:21 pm
      The club should find out who keeps leaking stuff to the press and have them executed

      Or at least treat them like Houllier treated Ince, when he found out he was a rat leaking stuff to the press.
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #19: Jun 08, 2015 04:59:19 pm

      But effective, no?
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      Reply #20: Jun 08, 2015 04:59:24 pm

      where did human rights ever get us ?
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      Reply #21: Jun 08, 2015 05:00:11 pm

      they wouldn't do it again would they ?
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      Reply #22: Jun 08, 2015 05:11:47 pm
      I think he meant excommunicated .

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      Reply #23: Jun 08, 2015 05:29:57 pm
      Personally don't see there being any need for the players to talk to the media but then if players were treated with a bit more respect by the club then maybe they would be less inclined to.
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #24: Jun 08, 2015 06:03:13 pm
      Skrtel now the latest to publically slag off his employers over contract issues and we even had a 20yr old novice come out and talk publically about Liverpool.
      should Brendan and the owners enforce a strict media blackout from all the playes unless its for a pre approved confernce/article etc to stop 2 thins
      1. making the club look bad
      2. making themselves look bad

      failure to stick to this means a fine, for example dropped from the team or a weeks wages something as simple as that. it would mean getting them to all sign a declaration agreeing to this which is easier said than done but it must be atleast mentioned to the squad as whole becuase its a joke now

      Skrtel has been absolute rubbish TBH. We should sell him
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #25: Jun 08, 2015 06:10:17 pm
      Maybe if FSG properly dealt with players contracts instead of f**king players around.....

      Maybe Raheem ain't that guilty!!!

      This for me. Even the Sterling interview, obviously it was driven by his agent but if Brendan had kept stum on the contract offer and the 'fantastic offer' that the club had made him then maybe it wouldn't have taken place at all, who knows.

      Unfortunately with all the social media these days there isn't really much of a place for a media blackout in the modern day. It's jus the way it is now.
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      Reply #26: Jun 08, 2015 06:12:23 pm
      Personally don't see there being any need for the players to talk to the media but then if players were treated with a bit more respect by the club then maybe they would be less inclined to.

      I see it the other way round.
      These guys are paid fortunes for playing a game, and should respect the club and their fans who are the ones who pay those wages.
      If they don't like it, maybe they should F**k off and try earning a living in the real world.

      I get a little fed up with all this "hard done by" sh*te that highly paid, spoiled rotten people who live in a bubble come out with every time they can't get their own way.
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      Reply #27: Jun 09, 2015 12:39:46 pm
      Skrtel has been absolute rubbish TBH. We should sell him

      Yep let's sell the best central defender at the club currently and only other senior player who's been there longer than five minutes. Would have hated to seen our defence withourt Skrtel at the back last season.
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #28: Jun 09, 2015 12:51:25 pm
      Yep let's sell the best central defender at the club currently and only other senior player who's been there longer than five minutes. Would have hated to seen our defence withourt Skrtel at the back last season.

      Until Sakho and Can came into a back three, Skrtel was F***ing awful last season. Mignolet and Lovren took the sh*t but Skrtel was every bit as bad as them.





       
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #29: Jun 09, 2015 01:21:01 pm
      Until Sakho and Can came into a back three, Skrtel was F***ing awful last season. Mignolet and Lovren took the sh*t but Skrtel was every bit as bad as them.


      Disagree, Skrtel only one keeping our back-line together half the time.

      Can should never, ever have been played in defence and playing him right-back towards end of season was an absolute disgrace.
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      Re: Should the club enforce a media blackout and fine those that break the rule
      Reply #30: Jun 09, 2015 01:25:32 pm
      A) How does freedom of speech work within the corporate world again?

      B) They do!!

      C) Actually close to how Houllier used to manage the team, banned everything and wouldn't let the players have mobiles in the dressing room.

      A) Cos whether the corporate world likes it or not, you still have the right to moan about your employers or to let it be known that you aren't happy with the new contract they've offered you.

      B) Well exactly

      C) Enforcing a ban on mobiles in the dressing room is easy ( and makes sense). Enforcing a total ban on any kind of public utterances would be a nightmare.

      Like I say, the manager has discretion to drop anybody who is seriously stirring sh*t ( which is what Brendan should have done with Sterling after his BBC interview for example), without having to issue total no-speaking-in-public bans on everybody.

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