Roberto Firmino Player Thread (F)

Seriously question for a change, you not think he’s past his best?

Serious question Keith do you think the lad could improve the under achievers you support?

Seriously question for a change, you not think he’s past his best?

He’s going to have his best season with us - he’s ready

Serious question Keith do you think the lad could improve the under achievers you support?

That’s answering a question with a question Stuey 

That’s answering a question with a question Stuey 

The point is mate the player you dismiss as past it is actually better than the majority of the team you support right now, it was put as a question to emphasise the error of your questioning Firmino's status as a viable first choice player.

Never doubt or under-value Bobby.

Really hope he stays......I still believe we're at our best when he's on song. Last season was so stop / start due to injury......let's see how he is with a good pre-season and a bit of rhythm......

The point is mate the player you dismiss as past it is actually better than the majority of the team you support right now, it was put as a question to emphasise the error of your questioning Firmino's status as a viable first choice player.

Certainly disagree about  that but that’s going off subject. All I’m saying is he’s not the player he was, nothing less, nothing more. On last seasons performance he’s become a average player.

Certainly disagree about  that but that’s going off subject. All I’m saying is he’s not the player he was, nothing less, nothing more. On last seasons performance he’s become a average player.

The fact that Jürgen Klopp has dismissed  any talk of transfer involving Firmino would dispute your opinion.

The fact that Jürgen Klopp has dismissed  any talk of transfer involving Firmino would dispute your opinion.

Your right about one thing, it’s a opinion. What’s yours?

Your right about one thing, it’s a opinion. What’s yours?

In view of the manager's decision yours and my opinions are irrelevant, Klopp's faith in Firmino is all that matters and your obvious bias negates your opinion.

In view of the manager's decision yours and my opinions are irrelevant, Klopp's faith in Firmino is all that matters and your obvious bias negates your opinion.

Christ Stuey it’s not like you going round the houses about a opinion. Ok i get it! You don’t want to say.

Christ Stuey it’s not like you going round the houses about a opinion. Ok i get it! You don’t want to say.

It's nailed on mate, Klopp rates him and that'll do for me, it really is irrelevant what your opinion is!

Brilliant again today

Seriously question for a change, you not think he’s past his best?

No I do not. Serious answer.

No I do not. Serious answer.

Ok then…… seriously 

Bobby plays with is Brains as well as his feet he sometimes needs game time to get in the groove I cant imagine any Liverpool supporter not wanting him here

Bobby plays with is Brains as well as his feet he sometimes needs game time to get in the groove I cant imagine any Liverpool supporter not wanting him here

There was a moment in the game vs City, I think it was in the 2nd half. Bobby got the ball out wide, just inside our half and instantly had 2 City players on him, he held the ball up and showed a nice piece of close control to get out of the position he was in, find the pass and set us on our way for another dangerous attack when he could’ve taken the easy option of just passing it back or falling to the ground to try and get a free kick. As soon as this happened it instantly made me think of Grealish. Every time Grealish gets the ball he’s the most predictable player on the pitch, he will kill the ball and start backing into the opposition player and he will either pass it backwards or just keep hold of the ball, going further and further away from the goal until he feels the slightest bit of contact and then he will hit the deck and throw his arms about as if he’s just been stopped from doing something productive. Bobby and Grealish, 2 players that received the similar type of ball and the difference was night and day; one player was trying to keep making positive movements with the ball to build something, the other was trying to keep his stat of being the most fouled player.

If anyone says Bobby is past it or isn’t an important player needs to look at the 100mill self obsessed tool at City and you will see who is the one positively impacting a game and which one isn’t. Bobby may not get the number of goals that he used to but a lot of what he does do goes completely unnoticed and it’s not until a player like that leaves that people then start to realise just how important they were to have in the team still. He’s not going to start every week, or even play a part every week, but he’s a player that Klopp knows he can rely on.

It’s a genuine question though within itself. Is he passed his best regardless of what he has to offer or bring to the table.

I mean if your going to narrow it down to a specific point, if rather overscrupulous one then yes I suppose he is slightly past his best..but not past his sell by date. Cud say the same about Mo.

I mean if you buy mediocre then once they go past their best you're in the gloop..

Bobby plays with is Brains as well as his feet he sometimes needs game time to get in the groove I cant imagine any Liverpool supporter not wanting him here

Since he’s not as good as he used to be I’m happy he’s still here to Walt. 

I mean if your going to narrow it down to a specific point, if rather overscrupulous one then yes I suppose he is slightly past his best..but not past his sell by date. Cud say the same about Mo.

I mean if you buy mediocre then once they go past their best you're in the gloop..

Not said or even think he’s passed his sell by date mate, but yeah like you not as good as he once was. That’s all I’ve been saying right from the start really.

There was a moment in the game vs City, I think it was in the 2nd half. Bobby got the ball out wide, just inside our half and instantly had 2 City players on him, he held the ball up and showed a nice piece of close control to get out of the position he was in, find the pass and set us on our way for another dangerous attack when he could’ve taken the easy option of just passing it back or falling to the ground to try and get a free kick. As soon as this happened it instantly made me think of Grealish. Every time Grealish gets the ball he’s the most predictable player on the pitch, he will kill the ball and start backing into the opposition player and he will either pass it backwards or just keep hold of the ball, going further and further away from the goal until he feels the slightest bit of contact and then he will hit the deck and throw his arms about as if he’s just been stopped from doing something productive. Bobby and Grealish, 2 players that received the similar type of ball and the difference was night and day; one player was trying to keep making positive movements with the ball to build something, the other was trying to keep his stat of being the most fouled player.

If anyone says Bobby is past it or isn’t an important player needs to look at the 100mill self obsessed tool at City and you will see who is the one positively impacting a game and which one isn’t. Bobby may not get the number of goals that he used to but a lot of what he does do goes completely unnoticed and it’s not until a player like that leaves that people then start to realise just how important they were to have in the team still. He’s not going to start every week, or even play a part every week, but he’s a player that Klopp knows he can rely on.

Superb analysis

There was a moment in the game vs City, I think it was in the 2nd half. Bobby got the ball out wide, just inside our half and instantly had 2 City players on him, he held the ball up and showed a nice piece of close control to get out of the position he was in, find the pass and set us on our way for another dangerous attack when he could’ve taken the easy option of just passing it back or falling to the ground to try and get a free kick. As soon as this happened it instantly made me think of Grealish. Every time Grealish gets the ball he’s the most predictable player on the pitch, he will kill the ball and start backing into the opposition player and he will either pass it backwards or just keep hold of the ball, going further and further away from the goal until he feels the slightest bit of contact and then he will hit the deck and throw his arms about as if he’s just been stopped from doing something productive. Bobby and Grealish, 2 players that received the similar type of ball and the difference was night and day; one player was trying to keep making positive movements with the ball to build something, the other was trying to keep his stat of being the most fouled player.

If anyone says Bobby is past it or isn’t an important player needs to look at the 100mill self obsessed tool at City and you will see who is the one positively impacting a game and which one isn’t. Bobby may not get the number of goals that he used to but a lot of what he does do goes completely unnoticed and it’s not until a player like that leaves that people then start to realise just how important they were to have in the team still. He’s not going to start every week, or even play a part every week, but he’s a player that Klopp knows he can rely on.

Spot on.

And hopefully the club get Bobby a new deal he deserves.

Bobby plays with is Brains as well as his feet he sometimes needs game time to get in the groove I cant imagine any Liverpool supporter not wanting him here

He is only 30 yrs old as well. Not like he is anywhere near finished, especially with how fit players are these days.

Since he’s not as good as he used to be I’m happy he’s still here to Walt. 

he had a succession of injuries last season or so and if he has had a good pre season he will feature a lot especially in big games. He probably has more footballing brains than the entire UTD front line. You have to have seen him over the years to really appreciate his very understated potent performances without him I doubt Mo or Sadio would be were they are today.