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      Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread (on loan at Bournemouth)

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      Joey B
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #270: Sep 05, 2017 07:37:28 am

      What a shocking thing to say!!
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #271: Sep 09, 2017 03:44:37 pm
      It's debatable if he is best, so he is not easily our best. He is an option when fit


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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #272: Sep 13, 2017 11:52:11 pm
      Massively underrated by the fan base, one of the best defensive full backs in the country.

      Players like him are only ever missed when they are injured.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #273: Sep 13, 2017 11:58:00 pm
      Massively underrated by the fan base, one of the best defensive full backs in the country.

      Players like him are only ever missed when they are injured.

      The point for me isn't really that Clyne is so great it is that his back ups are Joe Gomez and TAA. Klopp knew Clyne was out for a while at the end of pre-season, his incompetence in not giving himself options here and in central defence is unbelievable. I could understand it if the idea was that we were going to splurge elsewhere but we didn't, why couldn't one or two horses for courses have been brought in in defence? Mind you Sergio Ramos would probably look like a clown in this team given the way we play
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #274: Sep 14, 2017 12:02:35 am
      The point for me isn't really that Clyne is so great it is that his back ups are Joe Gomez and TAA. Klopp knew Clyne was out for a while at the end of pre-season, his incompetence in not giving himself options here and in central defence is unbelievable. I could understand it if the idea was that we were going to splurge elsewhere but we didn't, why couldn't one or two horses for courses have been brought in in defence? Mind you Sergio Ramos would probably look like a clown in this team given the way we play

      So we play both Trent and Gomez just in the cups, might as well loan them out. In fact f**k it, shut the academy and just loan all our young players out.

      Klopp has faith in both these lads to make it, so do I and while there may be teething problems both of these players will repay this faith in bucket loads.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #275: Sep 14, 2017 12:13:12 am
      So we play both Trent and Gomez just in the cups, might as well loan them out. In fact f**k it, shut the academy and just loan all our young players out.

      Klopp has faith in both these lads to make it, so do I and while there may be teething problems both of these players will repay this faith in bucket loads.

      Teething problems? This is part of the problem with this club we talk the talk about being a big club, wanting to win things but have to put up with 'teething problems' all too often, then often when those are ironed out, take Raheem Sterling we bear no fruit from these 'teething problems' other than a healthy deposit in the bank and a beginning of the cycle all over again, Emre Can and Coutinho will likely be next on this list.
      I'm sorry but if players aren't good enough to be in our first team then they shouldn't be in it, I'm not interested in what they might contribute in 3 years time. It's actually unfair on those 2 boys to be being thrown in the way they are just now. TAA, who has not always played as a right back even for the unders in the past year or two was mauled on Saturday and it will take some recovering. Joe Gomez is a young CB recovering from 2 years of injury having  to contend with Champions League class wide attackers, these circumstances, throwing them in and hoping for the best is not how you develop young players
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #276: Sep 14, 2017 12:24:10 am
      So we play both Trent and Gomez just in the cups, might as well loan them out. In fact f**k it, shut the academy and just loan all our young players out.

      Klopp has faith in both these lads to make it, so do I and while there may be teething problems both of these players will repay this faith in bucket loads.

      They've been thrown in at the deep end very early on in their careers - I simply can't get angry at their mistakes when they are that young. And yet I fear for their development in that they are expected to develop alongside seniors like Lovren.
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      Reply #277: Sep 14, 2017 12:28:39 am
      They've been thrown in at the deep end very early on in their careers - I simply can't get angry at their mistakes when they are that young. And yet I fear for their development in that they are expected to develop alongside seniors like Lovren.

      When you have such inexperience in this position (as well as crazy on the other side) someone in that midfield 3 should be told without exception that they are sitting and protecting but it doesn't happen. The number of times I seen Henderson charging around into the final 3rd and he in theory is supposed to be the sitter....it's madness.
      This group, and I've felt this for a long time just aren't very clever, they don't have a feel for games and how to manage them it's all boom or bust and it's really wearing thin seeing the same failings time and time and time again
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #278: Sep 14, 2017 10:08:04 am
      They've been thrown in at the deep end very early on in their careers - I simply can't get angry at their mistakes when they are that young. And yet I fear for their development in that they are expected to develop alongside seniors like Lovren.

      I think therein lies the problem... the ones they have to play alongside doesnt instill confidence nor provide clear direction.
      I have no problem with playing either TAA or Gomez as they are very promising young defenders, we need to sort out the CB position though.

      I mean even Fergie played those Da Silva boys at a young age, and while prone to mistakes, they were sucessful for the most part coz they had Rio/Vidic, etc alongside them.

      I definitely wouldnt write off the young boys, however when our defence is so leaky, you do miss the professionalism and solidity of a Clyne.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #279: Sep 26, 2017 05:11:33 pm
      https://www.instagram.com/nathaniel_clyne/

      Clyne now able to train in the gym. I think the team has missed him more than I expected it would. Hope he can continue on to make a full recovery, but we're probably still looking at December or January at the earliest.

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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #280: Sep 26, 2017 07:14:46 pm
      We've missed him a lot, people were very premature in writing him off. He's our best right back by miles.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #281: Oct 29, 2017 12:35:39 pm
      Jesus, when does he return? It feels like he's gone for 55 years.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #282: Oct 30, 2017 05:34:44 am
      Jesus, when does he return? It feels like he's gone for 55 years.

      Not sure, he's been suffering a back injury, last time Klopp spoke about him was the start of September.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #283: Nov 03, 2017 01:26:34 pm
      All very cloak and daggers around this injury which has kept him out for so long.

      Something not quite right about this one.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #284: Nov 03, 2017 02:48:44 pm
      All very cloak and daggers around this injury which has kept him out for so long.

      Something not quite right about this one.

      Why can't anybody accept anything at face value anymore, klopp said that is a relapse that can happen with back injuries
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #285: Nov 03, 2017 02:53:05 pm
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #286: Nov 03, 2017 02:53:08 pm
      Why can't anybody accept anything at face value anymore, klopp said that is a relapse that can happen with back injuries

      In which case whats the big deal in letting everyone know what is the exact injury, all very vague and dismissive makes me suspicious - maybe just me.
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      Reply #287: Nov 03, 2017 03:01:10 pm
      In which case whats the big deal in letting everyone know what is the exact injury, all very vague and dismissive makes me suspicious - maybe just me.

      Back injury

      You need more?

       Go on though mate what's your spidey sense telling you?
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #288: Nov 03, 2017 03:26:49 pm
      In which case whats the big deal in letting everyone know what is the exact injury, all very vague and dismissive makes me suspicious - maybe just me.

      Backs are a complete mystery to Doctors.
      They can only correctly diagnose in about 25%-30% of cases, usually when something shows up on a scan (herniated discs for instance).
      So assuming the scans show nothing, they have at most a 30% chance of a correct diagnosis, which might climb if they are sending him to the best specialists.

      I had all this from my GP a few years back, when I was frustrated they couldn't give me a proper diagnosis.
      What eventually fixed it? Time, rest, and not had a problem since.

      Just one of those things, nothing to be suspicious about.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #289: Nov 03, 2017 03:30:06 pm
      Back injury

      You need more?

       Go on though mate what's your spidey sense telling you?

      I know its a back injury and we were told it will be a couple of weeks initially then he is left out of the CL squad and now apparently has had a set back.
      I think its a lot more serious than the club are letting on.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #290: Nov 04, 2017 07:59:23 am
      Klopp on Clyne: "It's not a big problem, it just needs time - that's all. We are on it. We've sent him to specialists all over world."

      1:14 PM - Nov 3, 2017

      There's a joke in there somewhere 😁

      "How many specialists does it take to tell you it's not a big problem change a light bulb?"

      Only one but you gotta believe them. 😉

      Seriously tho: why 'travel the world', seeing "specialists" for nothing big? Something must have been lost in translation methinks. 😊
      « Last Edit: Nov 04, 2017 09:06:07 am by bad boy bubby »
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #291: Nov 04, 2017 09:36:43 am
      Klopp on Clyne: "It's not a big problem, it just needs time - that's all. We are on it. We've sent him to specialists all over world."

      1:14 PM - Nov 3, 2017

      There's a joke in there somewhere 😁

      "How many specialists does it take to tell you it's not a big problem change a light bulb?"

      Only one but you gotta believe them. 😉

      Seriously tho: why 'travel the world', seeing "specialists" for nothing big? Something must have been lost in translation methinks. 😊

      Think he meant the setback
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #292: Nov 04, 2017 02:08:10 pm
      Strange isn't it we have few players out for back injury since this season start.

      IF we sort out the VvD deal (get him in) in January then I won't too worry about Clyne absent. By the way I'm with all support of him but not his big fan, and I'm delighted with the current development of TAA with Gomez ready to slot in at the right fullback.

      Get well soon Nathaniel, YNWA 
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      Reply #293: Nov 04, 2017 02:44:29 pm
      Hmm... I'm pretty sure that makes no difference, whatsoever, to be fair.

      He's still travelling the world, visiting specialists, just to find out if it ["the setback"] is "nothing big". 😕

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      Reply #294: Nov 13, 2017 06:03:55 pm
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      Reply #295: Nov 13, 2017 06:06:43 pm

      Sounds ominous.

      3 months added to what he's already been out means an extended and probably gentle recovery time, be lucky if he plays for us again this season by the sounds of it.

      At least next summer he'll be like a new signing  :f_tongueincheek:

      Swift recovery Nat,

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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #296: Nov 13, 2017 06:08:45 pm
      No doubt this news will have the tin foil brigade reaching for their keyboards
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #297: Nov 13, 2017 06:24:50 pm
      Terrible news has been sorely  missed.
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #298: Nov 14, 2017 05:40:04 am
      Get well soon Clyney!
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      Re: Nathaniel Clyne Player Thread
      Reply #299: Nov 14, 2017 08:31:07 am
      Hope he gets back to full fitness.  I think that as promising as the two young lads are, he has been sorely missed and is a big step up as a defender.

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