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      Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Jul 15, 2015 09:59:50 pm
      Liverpool enter talks with AC Milan for £10.5m striker Jeremy Menez
      LIVERPOOL have approached AC Milan for striker Jeremy Menez, according to reports.
      By James Cambridge
      PUBLISHED: 21:35, Wed, Jul 15, 2015 | UPDATED: 21:44, Wed, Jul 15, 2015
         
      Italian publication Calicio Mercato Web claim Milan are willing to cash in on the Frenchman, who they acquired in 2014.

      The former Paris Saint-Germain striker could return a tidy sum having signed  on a free transfer last year.

      And AC Milan are expected to command a fee in the region of £10.5million for the forward who has scored 16 league goals for the club.

      It's understood Liverpool are keen to strengthen their squad after the £49m sale of Raheem Sterling to Manchester City.

      And the report suggests negotiations are going well given the good relationship between the clubs following the sale of Mario Balotelli last season.

      Menez has made 33 Serie A appearances for Milan and has represented France at every level, making 24 outings for the senior side.
      http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/591453/Liverpool-Transfer-News-10-5m-AC-Milan-Jeremy-Menez-Bid

      This came out of the blue...can't say I've ever watched him play...anyone know anything about him?
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #1: Jul 15, 2015 10:01:10 pm
      Hell no, I'd rather we signed Benteke!
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      Reply #2: Jul 15, 2015 10:02:20 pm
      Hey I was 8 seconds ahead of you on creating this..FL...damn you...damn you to hell!  ;)
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #3: Jul 15, 2015 10:04:30 pm
      I liked him when he was at Roma years ago, but I don't think he'd improve us now. More of an attacking midfielder than a ST, and we are well covered in that depth. Also, no quotes or reputable sources has me thinking this is a fabrication....
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #4: Jul 15, 2015 10:04:57 pm
      Ok...keep an eye out at 4:43...cheeky ;D

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      Reply #5: Jul 15, 2015 10:05:50 pm
      Hey I was 8 seconds ahead of you on creating this..FL...damn you...damn you to hell!  ;)

      Sorry about that AZ....hopefully the mods will merge them.

      Seemed like it was dead on here...figured something different might be cool. ;D
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      Reply #6: Jul 15, 2015 10:07:07 pm
      Got a feeling this is to counter the leaks coming out from Villa about United, a who blinks first PR campaign.



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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #7: Jul 15, 2015 10:10:48 pm
      I watch Serie A, if i had to describe Menez then id say his strongest aspect his accerlation, and pace. Reminds me bit of Torres. When he dribbles, the ball isnt glued to his feet like messi and suarez but its like he uses his pace to get past players rather then ball controll. Decent shot and good runs. tend to go missing in some games aswell.
      All in all, a good player.
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      Reply #8: Jul 15, 2015 10:12:16 pm
      I watch Serie A, if i had to describe Menez then id say his strongest aspect his accerlation, and pace. Reminds me bit of Torres. When he dribbles, the ball isnt glued to his feet like messi and suarez but its like he uses his pace to get past players rather then ball controll. Decent shot and good runs. tend to go missing in some games aswell.
      All in all, a good player.

      I enjoyed watching his highlights reel.....sure is a slippery devil it looks like. Doesn't really feel right for us,  although with he and Lallana, Firmino and Coutinho we'd have one hell of a trickery laden attacking side.
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      Reply #9: Jul 15, 2015 10:13:08 pm
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      I liked him when he was at Roma years ago, but I don't think he'd improve us now. More of an attacking midfielder than a ST

      Played 24 games for Milan as a forward last season returned 12 goals and 3 assists

      Benteke 29 appearances in all competitions, 15 goals, 2 assists

      Menez then played a further 7 more games as an attacking midfielder scoring 4 goals.

      Their stats aren't that far apart.

      For a third of the price, I think he'd be a better fit than Benteke if I'm being honest.
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      Reply #10: Jul 15, 2015 10:13:30 pm

      I enjoyed watching his highlights reel.....sure is a slippery devil it looks like. Doesn't really feel right for us,  although with he and Lallana, Firmino and Coutinho we'd have one hell of a trickery laden attacking side.

      I feel like I was watching an older version of Danny Ings there.....perhaps it was just the beard.

      Not exactly exciting when we have supposedly 30+ million to spend.



      Played 24 games for Milan as a forward last season returned 12 goals and 3 assists

      Benteke 29 appearances in all competitions, 15 goals, 2 assists

      Menez then played a further 7 more games as an attacking midfielder scoring 4 goals.

      Their stats aren't that far apart.

      Perhaps one of those older hidden gems Daz.
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      Reply #11: Jul 15, 2015 10:14:25 pm
      I feel like I was watching an older version of Danny Ings there.....perhaps it was just the beard.

      Not exactly exciting when we have supposedly 30+ million to spend.

      Maybe him and someone else AZ?
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #12: Jul 15, 2015 10:16:29 pm
      Maybe him and someone else AZ?

      Why do we need to go all shotgun approach on forwards again Si?

      Sturridge, Balotelli, Borini, Lambert, Ings, Origi....all under contract.

      Why can't we just go get 1 center forward better than what we have currently,

      I feel like we are just throwing sh*t on the wall and seeing what will stick.

      At least if they went out and got Benteke I would think we had some sort of plan.
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      Reply #13: Jul 15, 2015 10:18:36 pm
      Why do we need to go all shotgun approach on forwards again Si?

      Sturridge, Balotelli, Borini, Lambert, Ings, Origi....all under contract.

      Why can't we just go get 1 center forward better than what we have currently.

      If we sell Mario, Borini and Lambert then I think we could do with another two mate. I'm not saying we'd be crying our for two but if we did get Menez and Benteke then it would leave us with plenty of options and allow Origi and Ings time to settle in at a huge club like ours.
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      Reply #14: Jul 15, 2015 10:21:10 pm
      Played 24 games for Milan as a forward last season returned 12 goals and 3 assists

      Benteke 29 appearances in all competitions, 15 goals, 2 assists

      Menez then played a further 7 more games as an attacking midfielder scoring 4 goals.

      Their stats aren't that far apart.

      For a third of the price, I think he'd be a better fit than Benteke if I'm being honest.

      If i had to choose between benteke and menez, whom I think will fit better in our team. thinking of our player like cou, lallana, firminio & markovic. Then id say Menez will do better as a striker for us, because our midfield is going to be pretty direct and menez do have pace and do make small runs here and there.
      As a player as a whole, comparing a striker with a striker then id say benteke is better. With better i mean, benteke is not really slow, he is strong and can head the ball. There is no secret that he can hit the ball. With menez we will get a sharp and smarter striker, if that make any sense to you guys.

      Then again i wouldnt want us to spend so much money on these two, and again my post was just opinion.
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      Reply #15: Jul 15, 2015 10:21:58 pm
      If we sell Mario, Borini and Lambert then I think we could do with another two mate. I'm not saying we'd be crying our for two but if we did get Menez and Benteke then it would leave us with plenty of options and allow Origi and Ings time to settle in at a huge club like ours.

      I am fine with that as long as there is one we can count on....too much emphasis in the past on potential and not enough on reliable.
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #16: Jul 15, 2015 10:22:30 pm
      Sub standard player struggling in a sub standard team which still carries hype because of the clubs rep. No thanks.
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      Reply #17: Jul 15, 2015 10:23:13 pm
      For a third of the price, I think he'd be a better fit than Benteke if I'm being honest.

      I think FSG will absolutely endorse this idea, put the rest towards the stadium and score 65 goals this season.

      Problems solved.
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      Reply #18: Jul 15, 2015 10:24:24 pm
      As a player as a whole, comparing a striker with a striker then id say benteke is better. With better i mean, benteke is not really slow, he is strong and can head the ball. There is no secret that he can hit the ball. With menez we will get a sharp and smarter striker, if that make any sense to you guys.

      That's exactly what i'm alluding to.

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      Reply #19: Jul 15, 2015 10:25:45 pm
      I think FSG will absolutely endorse this idea, put the rest towards the stadium and score 65 goals this season.

      Problems solved.


      Your heads in a box mate, try thinking outside of it and seeing the bigger picture.
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      Reply #20: Jul 15, 2015 10:30:35 pm

      Your heads in a box mate, try thinking outside of it and seeing the bigger picture.


      Let's see Daz a 29 year old striker that scored a total of 16 goals in 31 appearances in a league that is more than a bit substandard in comparison to the PL.

      If you told me he was 20...I could maybe see it, not at 29; there is no upside here only frustration and eventual failure while trying to adapt to a much more competitive league.

      Being 29 and coming from the 4th and and 5th ranked leagues in terms of competition is not exactly a glowing endorsement...more like a recipe for disaster
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #21: Jul 15, 2015 10:34:20 pm
      Played 24 games for Milan as a forward last season returned 12 goals and 3 assists

      Benteke 29 appearances in all competitions, 15 goals, 2 assists

      Menez then played a further 7 more games as an attacking midfielder scoring 4 goals.

      Their stats aren't that far apart.

      For a third of the price, I think he'd be a better fit than Benteke if I'm being honest.

      I'll take your word for it. I haven't really seen him play for a few years. Back in his Roma days he was a winger / attacking midfielder and I feel like we have plenty of those already...
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      Reply #22: Jul 15, 2015 10:35:32 pm
      Let's see Daz a 29 year old striker that scored a total of 16 goals in 31 appearances in a league that is more than a bit substandard in comparison to the PL.

      If you told me he was 20...I could maybe see it, not at 29; there is no upside here only frustration and eventual failure while trying to adapt to a much more competitive league.

      Being 29 and coming from the 4th and and 5th ranked leagues in terms of competition is not exactly a glowing endorsement...more like a recipe for disaster

      I've just had a look at his goal record over his career and it's about 1 in 6. Now I know he hasn't always played as a striker but I think we need a proper striker more than Menez but as I said if we got him and the striker then could be a decent move.
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      Reply #23: Jul 15, 2015 10:36:13 pm
      there is no upside here only frustration and eventual failure.

      Sounds more appealing doing it for £10m than £32m :D

      Seriously though, we bought Suarez from a substandard league and as he was a 'Clever' and 'Versatile' player, he seamlessly fitted into our side/system, not saying Menez would do the same, but the way he plays football compared to Benteke, I'd Hazard a guess his transition would be easier.

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      Reply #24: Jul 15, 2015 10:38:07 pm
      Anyway its all by the by as I'm sticking to my initial Gut Feeling/Thought.

      Got a feeling this is to counter the leaks coming out from Villa about United, a who blinks first PR campaign.





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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #25: Jul 15, 2015 10:38:57 pm
      Menez is greedy and doesn't understand the meaning of teamwork from what I have seen, he never passes the ball and thinks he's Messi!
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #26: Jul 15, 2015 10:41:33 pm
      I thought the reason most were against getting Bacca was because players coming to the PL for the 1st time later in their careers never do well?  Or is this different because he's not expensive?

      Just get the player Brendan wants ffs.
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      Reply #27: Jul 15, 2015 10:43:37 pm
      Don't worry, I believe I have a 0% record when it comes to starting transfer target threads. Sorry I didn't do the Benteke one ;D
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      Reply #28: Jul 15, 2015 10:44:58 pm
      Seriously though, we bought Suarez from a substandard league and as he was a 'Clever' and 'Versatile' player,

      I know Daz but come on...Luis was 23 and had just finished scoring 81 goals in 110 appearances...surely there is a difference with somebody that is going to be 29  at the end of the next campaign and has amassed a record of 68 goals in 381 appearances.
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #29: Jul 15, 2015 10:46:20 pm
      Sub standard player struggling in a sub standard team which still carries hype because of the clubs rep. No thanks.

      I didn't know we were talking about Liverpool players. :f_whistle:

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      Reply #30: Jul 15, 2015 10:53:28 pm
      Pretty sure we have a Menez transfer rumour every year.
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      Reply #31: Jul 15, 2015 10:55:08 pm
      I know Daz but come on...Luis was 23 and had just finished scoring 81 goals in 110 appearances...surely there is a difference with somebody that is going to be 29  at the end of the next campaign and has amassed a record of 68 goals in 381 appearances.

      Still gives him a couple of years at the top level, minimal lay out, not a big risk whilst we wait for Ings, Origi to settle in or alternatively find better.
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      Reply #32: Jul 15, 2015 11:09:58 pm
      I didn't know we were talking about Liverpool players. :f_whistle:

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      Reply #33: Jul 16, 2015 10:48:36 am
      I know Daz but come on...Luis was 23 and had just finished scoring 81 goals in 110 appearances...surely there is a difference with somebody that is going to be 29  at the end of the next campaign and has amassed a record of 68 goals in 381 appearances.
      your basically comparing one of the best strikers in the worlds goalscoring record to a winger,  who has probably played as an attacking midfielder as much as a out and out striker.  Do you expect Nathan Clyne to score as much as Suarez too.  :roll: I myself wouldn't pay much for an aging forward.  I'd have Suarez back on a free after his Barcelona contract is up though, he'll be 32 then and probably won't cost a much.
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      Reply #34: Jul 16, 2015 10:57:41 am
      Pretty sure we have a Menez transfer rumour every year.
      I have seen Tello and Lavezzi every transfer window.  Not so much Menez, maybe you are thinking about when we were linked with Gomez? and I don't mean Joe Gomez.
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      Reply #36: Jul 16, 2015 03:06:21 pm
      Quality on FIFA 14.
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      Reply #37: Jul 16, 2015 06:04:10 pm
      Menez is not a goal scorer he had one good season in Seria A that is all before that he was very inconsistent. He isn't a proper striker anyway more a winger/forward, we need a proper striker. Benteke every day of the week over Menez.
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      Reply #38: Jul 17, 2015 05:51:29 am
      It would be interesting how Milan would (as an Italian club ) react If we go for a loan deal with an option to buy.....And maybe they pay a part of his wages too :lmao:

      With Benteke’s deal close, Liverpool now eye exciting winger (Menez)
        http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,47926.30.html

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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #39: Jul 17, 2015 05:33:02 pm
      He is a very good player: he can dribble, can score and has experience.
      At the reported price, he might be a bargain.
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      Re: Jeremy Menez (AC Milan)
      Reply #40: Jul 18, 2015 01:13:05 pm
      I've not followed Menez at Milan, but considering how he was used at PSG, Roma and French team, he may be labelled an attacking midfielder with best position being right* wing and secundary one behind the striker(s). At most he may be called a "forward", he's clearly not a "striker" (or he'd be rated a very average one, having scored less than one goal every 5 games in his carreer) and was especially not used as one at PSG where he was 90% of the time on right wing. (edit : <- late reaction to opening article, see it was already sorted out)

      Out of that, I rather like the player who has impressive technique and tend to panic defenders with unexpected movements will the ball, but his work rate without / tendancy not to track back may be a problem in PL, if he hasn't changed since his PSG years. While he showed in some important games he has the ability to involve himself in pressing or defensive tasks, he has/had some annoying tendancy to be lazy and just wait for the ball to return to his area when less motivated.

      (* there were some tries to use him on the left, but iirc he was very unefficient there)

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