Watching Liverpool FC

Cheer up, it's only a poll.
Where are you at with Liverpool?

Pains me cause of what I see.

Its becoming a bit of a chore to watch the turgid sh*te we've had to watch over the last year.

If I was a regular at the ground I'd seriously be considering of it was worth the money.

Pains me cause of what I see.

Its becoming a bit of a chore to watch the turgid sh*te we've had to watch over the last year.

If I was a regular at the ground I'd seriously be considering of it was worth the money.

Same here Si.....it's paining me too 

Trying to decide whether its worth me getting a ticket for the Sion game tomorrow, can I be bothered if the players can't

Pains me cause of what I see.

Its becoming a bit of a chore to watch the turgid sh*te we've had to watch over the last year.

If I was a regular at the ground I'd seriously be considering of it was worth the money.

That's another question.
Are the big names there to justify the cost?

Alonso, Mascherano, Torres.
Agger and Reina (For me anyway)
Gerrard and Suarez.
Even Sterling.

The big names have gone, and only the Little Magician remains.
One season where it clicks and Coutinho will be gone too.
Where is the ambition that should soak through LFC?

Same here Si.....it's paining me too 

Trying to decide whether its worth me getting a ticket for the Sion game tomorrow, can I be bothered if the players can't

That's the thing.
Suarez was worth the admission price on his own.

That's another question.
Are the big names there to justify the cost?

Alonso, Mascherano, Torres.
Agger and Reina (For me anyway)
Gerrard and Suarez.
Even Sterling.

The big names have gone, and only the Little Magician remains.
One season where it clicks and Coutinho will be gone too.
Where is the ambition that should soak through LFC?

 
That's the thing.
Suarez was worth the admission price on his own.

Its a good point mate but personally if I was close enough to Anfield to justify buying tickets on a regular basis big names wouldn't sway but much for me but if I was continually watching drab football with little sign if progress if be thinking if it was worth my money.

Obviously players like Luis make watching football a joy but you can achieve attractive football with lesser players.

It's hard going at the moment but i will always come back for more irrespective of who the manager or owners are or who is playing. Lfc have given me some of my happiest memories so although it feels like an obligation at times i feel that i have to give something back

 That's the thing.
Suarez was worth the admission price on his own.

Absolutely....oh if only we still had him !!

Liverpool FC -

A very, very slowly fading memory.

Everything about the club I grew up with and learnt about has virtually been wiped out.

It's a pain these days and for me feels like you're watching it...well just because it's Liverpool.

It's boring to watch us, and more than that it's going into the games knowing you're going to be watching us struggle no matter who we play that is the worst feeling for me.

West Ham game killed all the optimism i had.

Manu game went as i thought it would(Sadly).

For now it pains me to watch us play badly but i hope things would change soon.

As sh*t as we are it will always be a joy for me.

I still get the same buzz at 27 years of age walking to the ground as I did when I was 7.

Liverpool FC -

A very, very slowly fading memory.

Everything about the club I grew up with and learnt about has virtually been wiped out.

In all honesty its probably all gone now what is left is just a shadow of what the club used to be and what it stood for.

As sh*t as we are it will always be a joy for me.

I still get the same buzz at 27 years of age walking to the ground as I did when I was 7.

Fair play to you mate.

I can't share your enthusiasm at the moment though.

Really becoming painful under the current manager, test the patience of a saint at times, not that I profess to be a one by any means. On the subject perhaps too many ex saints in the side.

The buzz of going to a match, walk up, in the pub and afterwards dissecting the match is still there, but the match itself whether live or on the telly is painful. Simply because I feel we are going backwards and not utilising our players to their maximum.

For me the anticipation is still the same as it ever was. I always look forward eagerly to our next game.

Where things have really changed for me is the expectation is no longer the same. I always used to expect a Liverpool win no matter who we were playing or how badly we had played the last time out, but now my expectations have diminished and while the hope is still there it is more rationalized.

I have never been a football purist, I have always preferred us to win however we can, rather than play well and lose, but the dire football we have endured towards the end of last season and the start of this one has even tried my patience, but again maybe more for the lack of success that has accompanied it.

The biggest problem for me however is the lack of "hero's" for want of a better term. Now Gerrard has gone, for me there is only little Coutinho at the moment. Too many new players and not enough players who have built a history with us has taken something away from my enjoyment.

Not even the thought of the new stand has me buzzing , our soul is being eroded quicker than an ebbing tide, I've said before I've driven hundreds of miles and seen us lose plenty of times but in all those times I never thought on the way we would lose , now it's common that I expect us too ,
Perhaps I'm being too emotional over it but I hate what them c###s  have done to us and I include the first lot in that as well, as for Brendan he makes me want to put my foot through the telly , like I said perhaps too emotional , but I've always been that way with this bird .

Not even the thought of the new stand has me buzzing , our soul is being eroded quicker than an ebbing tide, I've said before I've driven hundreds of miles and seen us lose plenty of times but in all those times I never thought on the way we would lose , now it's common that I expect us too , perhaps I'm being too emotional over it but I hate what them c###s  have done to us and I include the first lot in that as well, as for Brendan he makes me want to put my foot through the telly , like I said perhaps too emotional , but I've always been that way with this bird .

If you cant get emotional whats the point. For many of us and I am sure you are the same its been a focal point of our lives for decades it is a constant in family conversation. But now its all about what does he have to do to get sacked followed by many expletives. They sacked Kenny for non football reasons because he was more succesful and spent less than Brendan .
The only reason I have Sky is so I can see the odd match its getting to the point were you ask if it is worth it. After many years of going to Anfield I dont get there much these days and I am not that bothered at the moment if I dont get there again.

The thing is, these creeps use our passion against us. Every penny we give em, means they ask for more from us/anyone else when "we" (the company) is sold on.

If we stopped feeding the leeches, they'd be overcome with being "Mr Niceguy".

They took over the assets and the revenue, and I'm still waiting for them to fix the disease they are responsible for fixing. Instead, they have simply accelerated it.

They wont get the steam off my piss.

If you cant get emotional whats the point. For many of us and I am sure you are the same its been a focal point of our lives for decades it is a constant in family conversation. But now its all about what does he have to do to get sacked followed by many expletives. They sacked Kenny for non football reasons because he was more succesful and spent less than Brendan .
The only reason I have Sky is so I can see the odd match its getting to the point were you ask if it is worth it. After many years of going to Anfield I dont get there much these days and I am not that bothered at the moment if I dont get there again.

You're right about the family bit mate ,my dad has been on the phone from Spain tonight  chatting about the game the last time I heard him like this was when the owl was in charge to say he not happy is an understatement .

You're right about the family bit mate ,my dad has been on the phone from Spain tonight  chatting about the game the last time I heard him like this was when the owl was in charge to say he not happy is an understatement .

its the first thing you ask "did you see the match?". I guess your Dad will be old enough to understand what a team and a manager should look like and I bet he doesnt think we have either at the moment

Always a joy for me but can feel a little bit of "tests me" dripping in. We're in a down turn, but nothing ever lasts forever, good or bad.

The reality is I like football. I like watching it, I like playing it, I like coaching it, I like writing about it, I like reading about it, I like discussing it, etc. I'll never stop liking it. The only thing I like more is the guitar. That's my first love.

Liverpool FC -

A very, very slowly fading memory.

Everything about the club I grew up with and learnt about has virtually been wiped out.

Where I'm at Pete, unrecognisable we have become, I hardly watch us play & only look at for the score now.

The sacking of Rafa was the beginning of our demise & I don't think we will ever hit those dizzy heights of Europe for a very long time.

its the first thing you ask "did you see the match?". I guess your Dad will be old enough to understand what a team and a manager should look like and I bet he doesnt think we have either at the moment

That just about sums  it up mate my dad been a fan nearly sixty years , been going almost fifty so he's seen a bit really not happy at the moment .

It Pains me....

But stabs much deeper.....

The club I once knew & loved no longer exists, from the mid seventies I've supported this club, but it is a shadow of its former self, it's been nigh on 26 yrs since we're champions and we are as far away from the title now than we were under that f***in buffoon Hodgeson...that was bad enough....now look at what we have been reduced to.... It's f***in criminal...a mediocre outfit scrapping for a 4th at best league position that will further coffer the leeches who are slowly killing our club, we have owners whose sole intent is to bleed us dry of every asset we have or had, this trend will continue so long as the cancer remains in situ....


I genuinely fear for our future.... Having a 60 odd thousand seater stadium or white elephant will be the legacy left behind by the disease that is FSG, they have little or no ambition except that of how much more valuable will their investment be by the time they decide to F**k off....


We have seen recently our best assets being sold off or retire, leaving us totally soulless, without passion, fight or purpose, the very DNA of our club is being slowly eradicated, if this is allowed to continue we could very well be the next Leeds Utd,


Liverpool FC, were dragged from the old second division by a man who's very passion not only for the club but of the people of the city shone brighter than anyone of that era, he built the foundations of which still bare his legacy today, it pains me to think of the amount of hard graft this man put into LFC,

How we are today is everything he didn't want us to be, he hated greed, it went against everything he believed in, he was a socialist but not in a political sense, he hated politicians....

   " The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards, it's the way I see football, the way I see life"

Now look at how our owners see life, how they regard the ordinary man in the street, the man who clicks thru the turnstiles every home game,

Shanks would turn in his grave if he could see what his club have become, not many working together, not too many rewards to share, except if your part of FSG.


DISGRACEFUL, SHAMBOLIC, PASSIONLESS, and owners who couldn't CARE- LESS !!!!





YNWA
                   

The only thing I like more is the guitar. That's my first love.

And that sir is the difference between you and me!

The Redmen are my first love.

And that sir is the difference between you and me!

The Redmen are my first love.

Aye but you're local. I live 4,000 miles away in a country that didn't even have a domestic league until 1996!

For me the anticipation is still the same as it ever was. I always look forward eagerly to our next game.

Where things have really changed for me is the expectation is no longer the same. I always used to expect a Liverpool win no matter who we were playing or how badly we had played the last time out, but now my expectations have diminished and while the hope is still there it is more rationalized.

I have never been a football purist, I have always preferred us to win however we can, rather than play well and lose, but the dire football we have endured towards the end of last season and the start of this one has even tried my patience, but again maybe more for the lack of success that has accompanied it.

The biggest problem for me however is the lack of "hero's" for want of a better term. Now Gerrard has gone, for me there is only little Coutinho at the moment. Too many new players and not enough players who have built a history with us has taken something away from my enjoyment.

Almost in total agreement with you there Saint BUT I think it's a lack of a 'scouse hero' more specifically that we're missing I can't seem to remember a time without one 

Aye but you're local. I live 4,000 miles away in a country that didn't even have a domestic league until 1996!

You had the world cup in 2004 

No I know what you meant and that's why I was trying to put it in a funny way rather than trying to sound like a tw*t!!

It's these last months that have left me feeling like I'm just watching a shell of what we're supposed to be.

Some on here continually moan about not winning the league, yet when you think of the trophies we've won since the start of the millennium alone, some teams would kill for just trophies, throw in the highs of the Champions league, it hasn't been that bad, but when you look at were we where then and you look at us now, it's heart-breaking.

You had the world cup in 2004 

No I know what you meant and that's why I was trying to put it in a funny way rather than trying to sound like a tw*t!!

It's these last months that have left me feeling like I'm just watching a shell of what we're supposed to be.

Some on here continually moan about not winning the league, yet when you think of the trophies we've won since the start of the millennium alone, some teams would kill for just trophies, throw in the highs of the Champions league, it hasn't been that bad, but when you look at were we where then and you look at us now, it's heart-breaking.

1994 you mean! Part of the stipulation from FIFA was we had to start a league or no World Cup haha

Yeah I get that. We actually have won a good number of trophies since the last league title, and like you say in the last 15 years we've got some great trophies and memorable finals. But it always seems like that lack of a league title constantly hangs over us as if we have become a glorified cup a team -- and, as the last few seasons prove, we're really not even that. It's brutal. I don't think the lack of a league title would've been as bad if United didn't grab so many league titles in that era.

1994 you mean! Part of the stipulation from FIFA was we had to start a league or no World Cup haha

hahaha oh F**k shows were my head is at tonight.

And that sir is the difference between you and me!

The Redmen are my first love.

Hell Yeah!!!


Oh wait.

It's like watching your old girlfriend out with another bloke your not that arsed as she was a bit rough but you had some good times but had to move on.(I'm a bit stoned) this popped into head:-)

It's like watching your old girlfriend out with another bloke your not that arsed as she was a bit rough but you had some good times but had to move on.(I'm a bit stoned) this popped into head:-)

No. No it's not.
Pass that to Ayrton.

Perhaps too many mercenaries, playing solely for the huge salaries, they receive, rather than any love or pride in playing for the club. This certainly showed up against the Mancs the other night.

It's like watching your old girlfriend out with another bloke your not that arsed as she was a bit rough but you had some good times but had to move on.(I'm a bit stoned) this popped into head:-)

It's more like watching your current girlfriend, who was an absolute stunner, just let herself go!!

Definetly hurts a lot watching us at the moment.

To the point where it brings me down and is starting to impact other areas of my life.

The problem Liverpool have is the same as the rest of the league.

Rich owners.

Football isnt the same as it used to be.

I see Liverpool supporters blaming everything but each other, the fact is, money determines status.

I have seen threads regarding who has spent the most as Liverpool manager, consider which clubs have spent more, and continue to do so.

The problem is this, football is crap.

Its not the same as what we are used to, nowadays its all about the richest clubs, look at our league, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, could you imagine during the 70's these clubs being powerhouses? no, they could never attract the best players, today however, we live in a lousy greedy world. We live in a world where money rules.

I have stopped supporting Liverpool, not because im out of love with them, but the league has left clubs like Liverpool out in the dark, if you dont have a rich owner, give it up.

I see the comments today, FSG are not up to todays standards, well if todays standards mean spending money then sod that, its not for me. I have read the forum, I have seen the FSG are at fault threads, HOW ARE THEY? what? they are at fault because they refuse to buy the league? hey in my opinion they are more me than many supporters here.

You all have to realise the reason why the game is up for Liverpool. Rich clubs are paying for success, and clubs like Liverpool are being left behind, and all the while fans are becoming disillusioned, and why not?

Our league, our clubs, our players are over priced, over payed, and one day one person will realise, its over sold.

The problem Liverpool have is the same as the rest of the league.

Rich owners.

Football isnt the same as it used to be.

I see Liverpool supporters blaming everything but each other, the fact is, money determines status.

I have seen threads regarding who has spent the most as Liverpool manager, consider which clubs have spent more, and continue to do so.

The problem is this, football is crap.

Its not the same as what we are used to, nowadays its all about the richest clubs, look at our league, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, could you imagine during the 70's these clubs being powerhouses? no, they could never attract the best players, today however, we live in a lousy greedy world. We live in a world where money rules.

I have stopped supporting Liverpool, not because im out of love with them, but the league has left clubs like Liverpool out in the dark, if you dont have a rich owner, give it up.

I see the comments today, FSG are not up to todays standards, well if todays standards mean spending money then sod that, its not for me. I have read the forum, I have seen the FSG are at fault threads, HOW ARE THEY? what? they are at fault because they refuse to buy the league? hey in my opinion they are more me than many supporters here.

You all have to realise the reason why the game is up for Liverpool. Rich clubs are paying for success, and clubs like Liverpool are being left behind, and all the while fans are becoming disillusioned, and why not?

Our league, our clubs, our players are over priced, over payed, and one day one person will realise, its over sold.

F**k off lid.

F**k off lid.

absolutely ridiculous post. i was expecting to see a dozen upvotes, to be honest. how can you argue with anything he said? people like to put the blame on everything but what is really the problem - football is corrupt, england is shattered, everything is a mess...

absolutely ridiculous post. i was expecting to see a dozen upvotes, to be honest. how can you argue with anything he said? people like to put the blame on everything but what is really the problem - football is corrupt, england is shattered, everything is a mess...

Money in football is like drugs in cycling. In cycling if you want to compete you either take the drugs, stop everyone taking the drugs, or just accept you wont win much. In football if you want to compete you either spend the money, stop everyone from spending the money or just accept you wont win much. We have already tried stopping the spending (ffp) and that didn't work so the choice is spend the F***ing money or accept you wont win much ... I think we all know which option FSG picked.
 

absolutely ridiculous post. i was expecting to see a dozen upvotes, to be honest. how can you argue with anything he said? people like to put the blame on everything but what is really the problem - football is corrupt, england is shattered, everything is a mess...

What did it for me was when he said he no longer supported Liverpool.

You don't just stop....

The problem Liverpool have is the same as the rest of the league.

Rich owners.

Football isnt the same as it used to be.

I see Liverpool supporters blaming everything but each other, the fact is, money determines status.

I have seen threads regarding who has spent the most as Liverpool manager, consider which clubs have spent more, and continue to do so.

The problem is this, football is crap.

Its not the same as what we are used to, nowadays its all about the richest clubs, look at our league, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, could you imagine during the 70's these clubs being powerhouses? no, they could never attract the best players, today however, we live in a lousy greedy world. We live in a world where money rules.

I have stopped supporting Liverpool, not because im out of love with them, but the league has left clubs like Liverpool out in the dark, if you dont have a rich owner, give it up.

I see the comments today, FSG are not up to todays standards, well if todays standards mean spending money then sod that, its not for me. I have read the forum, I have seen the FSG are at fault threads, HOW ARE THEY? what? they are at fault because they refuse to buy the league? hey in my opinion they are more me than many supporters here.

You all have to realise the reason why the game is up for Liverpool. Rich clubs are paying for success, and clubs like Liverpool are being left behind, and all the while fans are becoming disillusioned, and why not?

Our league, our clubs, our players are over priced, over payed, and one day one person will realise, its over sold.

The thing is that we are having much smaller clubs overtake us. Chelsea, Manc C and Arse showed serious investment (Arse much more so in stadium, but sold some star players). We have a massive fan base and formerly a massive name.

But Lpool has been butchered by greed and the associated under-investment of 2 sets of Americans.
Last yr acc to Swiss Ramble it had 128m debt on the club. THE SAME as under G&H. This is purely purchase debt ie purchase of the club in a parasitic manner, NOT operational activity. Now imagine if just HALF of that amount had been used to cure the G&H disease back in 2010!

I mean as little as TEN M net spend over teh Summer. Relative wage cuts. Its certainly not "sugar daddies" beating us. Its proud investors  at real football clubs beating greedy bas**rds at Anfield.

Moores was rich, but he wasnt a "rich owner" like Abramovich. He just wanted LFC as a football club. Abramovich saw that if he invested, he could turn Chelsea into a great club. The fact Lpool just dont want to compete, makes his job (and Manc C's and Arse's) so much easier.

We need these Boston bas**rds out.

well sometimes you have to make a tough call if something that you once loved now makes your life worse. i have not stopped following LFC personally but i can understand how someone who has been emotionally invested in their footy club all their life has become disenchanted. first they would stop supporting with their money, but then it becomes their heart.. because all they wanted to do was follow a footy team and now it's become about everything but footy. you can't just watch a game of footy on tv anymore, too much politics and bullshit. the only pure football i get nowadays is watching my bro in the amateur leagues. that is still a sport and not staged entertainment. it's just sad our club is just a pawn in this entertainment game. that is what is hardest to take.

It's more like watching your current girlfriend, who was an absolute stunner, just let herself go!!

Yeah that's more like it :-) proper wrecked last night.

It's more like watching your current girlfriend, who was an absolute stunner, just let herself go!!

And to top it all of she went out at the weekend and got herself fu**ed up the arse by a manc.

I voted "will always be a joy for me"

But I need to caveat that by preceding the phase with... "Before Kick Off it....

I have stopped supporting Liverpool

You're on the wrong forum then.

The club in the present day is only a shadow of its former self, people need to acknowledge this. When something will change, starting with the man in charge of the team and finishing with the board of directors, only then we will see this club reemerge like a Pheonix from its ashes. We need someone who could inspire people and bring out hope for our fans. In the current setup, with the confidence our players and fans have, we will never win a trophy again.

If the yanks can't see there is something painfully wrong with how our club is being ran, then they can f**k off and stick to baseball.

Money in football is like drugs in cycling. In cycling if you want to compete you either take the drugs, stop everyone taking the drugs, or just accept you wont win much. In football if you want to compete you either spend the money, stop everyone from spending the money or just accept you wont win much. We have already tried stopping the spending (ffp) and that didn't work so the choice is spend the F***ing money or accept you wont win much ... I think we all know which option FSG picked.
 

100% saint. The money is there they just chose to be smart arse with it: protecting investment instead of trying to win.

Play the game or F**k off. It's that F***ing simple.

Truth is: I find it dismaying that there are still mugs being hoodwinked into believing that FSG are on some noble quest to, unilaterally, rewrite the 'rules' and therefore, somehow deserve praise.   

Five F***ing years under these charlatans next month... The only thing which has improved (and massively at that)? The value of their investment. 

On topic - I'm loyal so option #2 but I'm also loyal enough to have made a conscious decision not to go back to Anfield til they've fu**ed off. The couple of grand it costs me, a season, will be better spent elsewhere.

What did it for me was when he said he no longer supported Liverpool.

You don't just stop....

A true fan CAN'T stop mate, but get your sentiment !

Hell Yeah!!!


Oh wait.

Oh yes.

Actually its made me think of the things that I've enjoyed watching this year more than the reds.

F1, Open golf, bikes and tennis have gave me more enjoyment this year than my first love which is always football.

Hate feeling like this as I do love the game and the club.

Oh yes.

Actually its made me think of the things that I've enjoyed watching this year more than the reds.

F1, Open golf, bikes and tennis have gave me more enjoyment this year than my first love which is always football.

Hate feeling like this as I do love the game and the club.

This season has made me get the head down into Motorsport.
Any Motorsport to get enjoyment from the sports that I watch.

Get the head into those and forget about analysing LFC.
Otherwise it would be bloody miserable.

This season has made me get the head down into Motorsport.
Any Motorsport to get enjoyment from the sports that I watch.

Get the head into those and forget about analysing LFC.
Otherwise it would be bloody miserable.

Yep.

I remember saying to you that I had made a decision to make more time to get back into watching F1 properly this season and I did that.

Probably because I needed something to switch off from where LFC was concerned as much as anything.

Yep.

I remember saying to you that I had made a decision to make more time to get back into watching F1 properly this season and I did that.

Probably because I needed something to switch off from where LFC was concerned as much as anything.

Exactly.

You're on the wrong forum then.

I think it deps on what you mean by "support". Many of us refuse to support the company. And think that by giving them money, it will only harm the institution ie the club in the future.

I don't give the company my money. Or rather, my tickets go to real fans, so its cannibalising (ok to a tiny degree!) the Thomas Cook type revenue stream.

Many/most of us would never have started supporting Liverpool the company if it existed back then, the way it does now.

To many of us, the club/institution means far too much to us to encourage its captors/"owners" to continue their abuse of it.

I think it deps on what you mean by "support".

I think the tone of the post by the original poster showed what he meant, he's basically had enough of modern football and I sort of get that. The maxim used by some of us going crazy over a bunch of millionaires kicking a bag of air around is well used and if looked at outside the realms of the love of our club does actually hold water. How many matches have you watched (all, not just us) and thought 'brilliant match that', they're few and far between but the hype just grows and grows. Reality like so many things in this modern, social led society is so blurred that it's just a concept now.

Having said all that, you can't stop 'supporting' Liverpool FC, it's a birth right and come what may your stuck with it for life.

I think it deps on what you mean by "support". Many of us refuse to support the company.

I think we mean watch/go the match!!

Does anyone really give a F**k about the company. It's what happens on the pitch.

I think we mean watch/go the match!!

Does anyone really give a f**k about the company. It's what happens on the pitch.

This is it. The company has a stranglehold over the club, and is harming it and refusing to heal it. Or even let others (eg fan investors) help heal it.

Then there's the "it might have to get worse before it gets better" aspect. If BR is sacked, does that mean FSG have now become "the good guys". Ofcourse not.

If we cut off Fenway's money, things can improve. I mean there aren't even any stars left to sell these days.

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To me, they might wear red, they might sport the liver bird. They might play at Anfield. But can I really say its "Liverpool FC" whilst its held captive and humiliated by mickey mouse teams like WHam and Stoke all the time?

Will always be a joy for me.....

....well, I do have a penchant sadomasochism.

Will always be a joy for me.....

....well, I do have a penchant sadomasochism.

you just havent found your pain threshold. give it time.

Will always be a joy for me.....

....well, I do have a penchant sadomasochism.

I don't know, I've had trips to the dentist more entertaining than the first half on Saturday.

Will always watch but it's becoming embarrassing

you just havent found your pain threshold. give it time.

Or rectal razor blades.

....is a chore

What did it for me was when he said he no longer supported Liverpool.

You don't just stop....

In fairness, I have stopped for a reason, there is no love here, whereas before I loved the idea that any grievance I used to have with the club could be shared, we are divided now, for the reasons I mentioned.

I noticed how quick people where to jump on this point, and how many dont support England, and yet during the Olympics here any bad word said was shot down in an instant!

Its all hypocrisy, and posts shooting down my "I dont support Liverpool anymore" give it credence to what I have said. Just read the Brendan Rodgers insults, just read the FSG insults, what it comes down to is money, shallow supporters, and todays game in general.

The Liverpool, indeed the game I used to know have changed a lot. There was a point in time when we, as supporters came first, both for the clubs and the league.

Now, we dont.

Take offence by all means, but I am sick and tired of being taken for a ride, which we all are.

I am done with our game, its all money. Its all bullshit.

When Rooney becomes Englands top scorer you know something is seriously wrong here in our game.

When players like Sterling holds a club to ransom, you know something is wrong.

So forgive me if I dont want to be a part of our once called "beautiful game", because now, its just ugly.

In fairness, I have stopped for a reason, there is no love here, whereas before I loved the idea that any grievance I used to have with the club could be shared, we are divided now, for the reasons I mentioned.

I noticed how quick people where to jump on this point, and how many dont support England, and yet during the Olympics here any bad word said was shot down in an instant!

Its all hypocrisy, and posts shooting down my "I dont support Liverpool anymore" give it credence to what I have said. Just read the Brendan Rodgers insults, just read the FSG insults, what it comes down to is money, shallow supporters, and todays game in general.

The Liverpool, indeed the game I used to know have changed a lot. There was a point in time when we, as supporters came first, both for the clubs and the league.

Now, we dont.

Take offence by all means, but I am sick and tired of being taken for a ride, which we all are.

I am done with our game, its all money. Its all bullshit.

When Rooney becomes Englands top scorer you know something is seriously wrong here in our game.

When players like Sterling holds a club to ransom, you know something is wrong.

So forgive me if I dont want to be a part of our once called "beautiful game", because now, its just ugly.

LFC is in my veins lad and always will be regardless if they play in the Premier league or end up in Conference I still won't give up I still will love and support my club.

You'll Never Walk Alone is a way of life not a "slogan" you try and associate yourself with when your team is winning only.

LFC is in my veins lad and always will be regardless if they play in the Premier league or end up in Conference I still won't give up I still will love and support my club.

You'll Never Walk Alone is a way of life not a "slogan" you try and associate yourself with when your team is winning only.

Amen.

While I will say the passion for our football is not exactly high at the moment - inevitable when you're struggling, one will always be more trepidatious in their hope when the product is struggling - but my passion for the club will never waver. I still get excited every time I see XI men of Liverpool take the field, no matter who those men in the shirts may be.

It F***ing sucks to watch much more often than it used to, but I will never stop hoping it'll be at the glorious heights of the past again. In the meantime? I'll wear my tear stained jersey, drink many ales, and toast to the good times and the bad with my fellow reds. YNWA motherfuckers.

Watching them on TV is hard, of late, but I live for the 6-12 times a season that I get to see them live, especially at Anfield.  Don't know if I've been lucky or the city and people are as great as I think they are, but I've not had a bad trip yet, results may not always have been so good.

Watching them on TV is hard, of late, but I live for the 6-12 times a season that I get to see them live, especially at Anfield.  Don't know if I've been lucky or the city and people are as great as I think they are, but I've not had a bad trip yet, results may not always have been so good.

You've not had a bad trip simply because Rodders most are of the opinion, bollocks to the game, lets just enjoy ourselves and have a laugh.

You've not had a bad trip simply because Rodders most are of the opinion, bollocks to the game, lets just enjoy ourselves and have a laugh.

Even the bitter taxi drivers are great.  Fabulous city, especially compared to Bristol, where I live now, but the locals aren't anywhere near as friendly.

Even the bitter taxi drivers are great. 

Hahaha the bullshit they talk about LFC is always funny!

LFC is in my veins lad and always will be regardless if they play in the Premier league or end up in Conference I still won't give up I still will love and support my club.

You'll Never Walk Alone is a way of life not a "slogan" you try and associate yourself with when your team is winning only.

Amen.

While I will say the passion for our football is not exactly high at the moment - inevitable when you're struggling, one will always be more trepidatious in their hope when the product is struggling - but my passion for the club will never waver. I still get excited every time I see XI men of Liverpool take the field, no matter who those men in the shirts may be.

It F***ing sucks to watch much more often than it used to, but I will never stop hoping it'll be at the glorious heights of the past again. In the meantime? I'll wear my tear stained jersey, drink many ales, and toast to the good times and the bad with my fellow reds. YNWA motherfuckers.

I agree with both of these statements. It may not be the best thing to watch these days, but Liverpool will always be a part of my life. I still drive to a pub to watch the game with fellow fans and have a couple of pints.

I watched the rugby the other night, Japan beating the South Africans, the feeling I had watching that is what I used to have watching football.

To me, football is dead.

I watched the rugby the other night, Japan beating the South Africans, the feeling I had watching that is what I used to have watching football.

To me, football is dead.

I'd still prefer going the match and having a laugh with those that sit around me, than sit watch Rugby with a load of pissed up gobs***e toffs.

You only fall out of love with Liverpool for so long!

It's getting harder to watch as each game goes by. Things have to change regard's Brendan. Try giving Gary Mac first choice on picking the team for a while and see how he fair's out  using the same squad. Maybe he might play people in their proper position's 'cause Bren has lost the plot imo&as such is making this team just painful to watch.

I tried to warn people about FSG, That they were not the "Knights In Shining Armour" that they seemed, but people were sick and tied of H&G by then that anyone else was a godsend, Yes the invested in the club, cleared debt. But Hey, that was good business, Meant no interest on loans, and meant that they could start making their profits sooner rather than later

For me, we are where we are going the be most of the season 8th-14th place, and for FSG that is fine,because there is the new TV deal money every year, and If we somehow find another Luis Suarez or Raheem Stirling then that's another £49m/£85m In the bank

In the mean time we get to watch passionless displays as we did against Man Utd....Here is a thought...Instead for buying in players why  not just play young academy players,Scousers? .... It at least we would see more fight and passion from them
would also boost the profit margins for FSG too

No neutral fan would ever watch a LFC game nowadays. Its boring, painful and predictable. Only true fans would devote 90 minutes to watching us, and suffer before during and after.

Will always watch, will always continue to try and find me a way to hop over the ocean to get to Anfield, but am increasingly afraid that I'll never get to experience the atmosphere the way it used to be, the way some of you talk about the glory days and the way it still should be. Pretty frustrated with what we are getting on the pitch but it is what it is, I'm hooked now and always will be.

In fairness, I have stopped for a reason, there is no love here, whereas before I loved the idea that any grievance I used to have with the club could be shared, we are divided now, for the reasons I mentioned.

I noticed how quick people where to jump on this point, and how many dont support England, and yet during the Olympics here any bad word said was shot down in an instant!

Its all hypocrisy, and posts shooting down my "I dont support Liverpool anymore" give it credence to what I have said. Just read the Brendan Rodgers insults, just read the FSG insults, what it comes down to is money, shallow supporters, and todays game in general.

The Liverpool, indeed the game I used to know have changed a lot. There was a point in time when we, as supporters came first, both for the clubs and the league.

Now, we dont.

Take offence by all means, but I am sick and tired of being taken for a ride, which we all are.

I am done with our game, its all money. Its all bullshit.

When Rooney becomes Englands top scorer you know something is seriously wrong here in our game.

When players like Sterling holds a club to ransom, you know something is wrong.

So forgive me if I dont want to be a part of our once called "beautiful game", because now, its just ugly.

Unfortunately you're too right. I love football, but I hate what it's become. I yearn for it to "take a step back" to what makes the beautiful game just that. Nowadays, the only integrity in football seems to be in the lower divisions where the money simply doesn't exist. But saying all that, I'll never stop following Liverpool. It's been in my heart for so long that it is a part of me.

I need some of these to remind me of when there was ambition at the club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8-UjwAu5kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJi-U3BqbrQ

As often quoted I have supported the Reds since 1962 when I was 10.
They came up from the old Second Division and the rest is as they say history.

I have laughed and I have cried tears of joy and sadness.
My support for this club has been constant .
It is the very thread that has run through many of my own life's events.

I may have seen the writing on the wall .
Why ?
I dont know ... but if it was sixth sense it was only knowing what a Liverpool manager is and what a Liverpool manager is not.


In over 50 years I have never felt like this .

I have no words  ..... for once.

I tried to warn people about FSG, That they were not the "Knights In Shining Armour" that they seemed, but people were sick and tied of H&G by then that anyone else was a godsend, Yes the invested in the club, cleared debt. But Hey, that was good business, Meant no interest on loans, and meant that they could start making their profits sooner rather than later

For me, we are where we are going the be most of the season 8th-14th place, and for FSG that is fine,because there is the new TV deal money every year, and If we somehow find another Luis Suarez or Raheem Stirling then that's another £49m/£85m In the bank

In the mean time we get to watch passionless displays as we did against Man Utd....Here is a thought...Instead for buying in players why  not just play young academy players,Scousers? .... It at least we would see more fight and passion from them
would also boost the profit margins for FSG too

Acc to Swiss Ramble blog, net debt on the club was 128m last yr. The same as under G&H.
The sneaky trick was that Fenway took over in the October, when debt is naturally lower than later in the season. Thats one reason why it rose later on. They're also placing the new stand debt on the club. Ofcourse they never had any intention of keeping that debt separate. Or building a new ground.

All it needed was 60m or so player investment to cure the disease of G&H, back in 2010 when FSG took over. Instead every piece of top quality has been stripped from the club. Replaced with lower waged, lowed aged, "assets" to sell on at profit, but unable to contribute much more than F**k all to the team.

If these creeps had invested in the team, they'd have seen revenue return. But their greed is immense. They don't just want big sellon profits. They want to do it by spending F**k all as well. Ofcourse RBS financed the deal in much the same way as G&H financed on leverage (both on the club accounts AND further up the ownership chain).

Most people can see its a con trick of epic proportions. Sadly, there are still one or two who still parrot Snakeoil Salesmen v2.0

As often quoted I have supported the Reds since 1962 when I was 10.
They came up from the old Second Division and the rest is as they say history.

I have laughed and I have cried tears of joy and sadness.
My support for this club has been constant .
It is the very thread that has run through many of my own life's events.

I may have seen the writing on the wall .
Why ?
I dont know ... but if it was sixth sense it was only knowing what a Liverpool manager is and what a Liverpool manager is not.


In over 50 years I have never felt like this .

I have no words  ..... for once.

the word your looking for is "Heartbroken".

I miss my cloob.

Judging by the way I have been receiving texts off the club , I suspect there are going to be a few less watching on the coming weeks I do believe the fans have started voting .

I'm just glad I've had other things to think about the last few weeks.