Watching Liverpool FC

its the first thing you ask "did you see the match?". I guess your Dad will be old enough to understand what a team and a manager should look like and I bet he doesnt think we have either at the moment

That just about sums  it up mate my dad been a fan nearly sixty years , been going almost fifty so he's seen a bit really not happy at the moment .

It Pains me....

But stabs much deeper.....

The club I once knew & loved no longer exists, from the mid seventies I've supported this club, but it is a shadow of its former self, it's been nigh on 26 yrs since we're champions and we are as far away from the title now than we were under that f***in buffoon Hodgeson...that was bad enough....now look at what we have been reduced to.... It's f***in criminal...a mediocre outfit scrapping for a 4th at best league position that will further coffer the leeches who are slowly killing our club, we have owners whose sole intent is to bleed us dry of every asset we have or had, this trend will continue so long as the cancer remains in situ....


I genuinely fear for our future.... Having a 60 odd thousand seater stadium or white elephant will be the legacy left behind by the disease that is FSG, they have little or no ambition except that of how much more valuable will their investment be by the time they decide to F**k off....


We have seen recently our best assets being sold off or retire, leaving us totally soulless, without passion, fight or purpose, the very DNA of our club is being slowly eradicated, if this is allowed to continue we could very well be the next Leeds Utd,


Liverpool FC, were dragged from the old second division by a man who's very passion not only for the club but of the people of the city shone brighter than anyone of that era, he built the foundations of which still bare his legacy today, it pains me to think of the amount of hard graft this man put into LFC,

How we are today is everything he didn't want us to be, he hated greed, it went against everything he believed in, he was a socialist but not in a political sense, he hated politicians....

   " The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards, it's the way I see football, the way I see life"

Now look at how our owners see life, how they regard the ordinary man in the street, the man who clicks thru the turnstiles every home game,

Shanks would turn in his grave if he could see what his club have become, not many working together, not too many rewards to share, except if your part of FSG.


DISGRACEFUL, SHAMBOLIC, PASSIONLESS, and owners who couldn't CARE- LESS !!!!





YNWA
                   

The only thing I like more is the guitar. That's my first love.

And that sir is the difference between you and me!

The Redmen are my first love.

And that sir is the difference between you and me!

The Redmen are my first love.

Aye but you're local. I live 4,000 miles away in a country that didn't even have a domestic league until 1996!

For me the anticipation is still the same as it ever was. I always look forward eagerly to our next game.

Where things have really changed for me is the expectation is no longer the same. I always used to expect a Liverpool win no matter who we were playing or how badly we had played the last time out, but now my expectations have diminished and while the hope is still there it is more rationalized.

I have never been a football purist, I have always preferred us to win however we can, rather than play well and lose, but the dire football we have endured towards the end of last season and the start of this one has even tried my patience, but again maybe more for the lack of success that has accompanied it.

The biggest problem for me however is the lack of "hero's" for want of a better term. Now Gerrard has gone, for me there is only little Coutinho at the moment. Too many new players and not enough players who have built a history with us has taken something away from my enjoyment.

Almost in total agreement with you there Saint BUT I think it's a lack of a 'scouse hero' more specifically that we're missing I can't seem to remember a time without one 

Aye but you're local. I live 4,000 miles away in a country that didn't even have a domestic league until 1996!

You had the world cup in 2004 

No I know what you meant and that's why I was trying to put it in a funny way rather than trying to sound like a tw*t!!

It's these last months that have left me feeling like I'm just watching a shell of what we're supposed to be.

Some on here continually moan about not winning the league, yet when you think of the trophies we've won since the start of the millennium alone, some teams would kill for just trophies, throw in the highs of the Champions league, it hasn't been that bad, but when you look at were we where then and you look at us now, it's heart-breaking.

You had the world cup in 2004 

No I know what you meant and that's why I was trying to put it in a funny way rather than trying to sound like a tw*t!!

It's these last months that have left me feeling like I'm just watching a shell of what we're supposed to be.

Some on here continually moan about not winning the league, yet when you think of the trophies we've won since the start of the millennium alone, some teams would kill for just trophies, throw in the highs of the Champions league, it hasn't been that bad, but when you look at were we where then and you look at us now, it's heart-breaking.

1994 you mean! Part of the stipulation from FIFA was we had to start a league or no World Cup haha

Yeah I get that. We actually have won a good number of trophies since the last league title, and like you say in the last 15 years we've got some great trophies and memorable finals. But it always seems like that lack of a league title constantly hangs over us as if we have become a glorified cup a team -- and, as the last few seasons prove, we're really not even that. It's brutal. I don't think the lack of a league title would've been as bad if United didn't grab so many league titles in that era.

1994 you mean! Part of the stipulation from FIFA was we had to start a league or no World Cup haha

hahaha oh F**k shows were my head is at tonight.

And that sir is the difference between you and me!

The Redmen are my first love.

Hell Yeah!!!


Oh wait.

It's like watching your old girlfriend out with another bloke your not that arsed as she was a bit rough but you had some good times but had to move on.(I'm a bit stoned) this popped into head:-)

It's like watching your old girlfriend out with another bloke your not that arsed as she was a bit rough but you had some good times but had to move on.(I'm a bit stoned) this popped into head:-)

No. No it's not.
Pass that to Ayrton.

Perhaps too many mercenaries, playing solely for the huge salaries, they receive, rather than any love or pride in playing for the club. This certainly showed up against the Mancs the other night.

It's like watching your old girlfriend out with another bloke your not that arsed as she was a bit rough but you had some good times but had to move on.(I'm a bit stoned) this popped into head:-)

It's more like watching your current girlfriend, who was an absolute stunner, just let herself go!!

Definetly hurts a lot watching us at the moment.

To the point where it brings me down and is starting to impact other areas of my life.

The problem Liverpool have is the same as the rest of the league.

Rich owners.

Football isnt the same as it used to be.

I see Liverpool supporters blaming everything but each other, the fact is, money determines status.

I have seen threads regarding who has spent the most as Liverpool manager, consider which clubs have spent more, and continue to do so.

The problem is this, football is crap.

Its not the same as what we are used to, nowadays its all about the richest clubs, look at our league, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, could you imagine during the 70's these clubs being powerhouses? no, they could never attract the best players, today however, we live in a lousy greedy world. We live in a world where money rules.

I have stopped supporting Liverpool, not because im out of love with them, but the league has left clubs like Liverpool out in the dark, if you dont have a rich owner, give it up.

I see the comments today, FSG are not up to todays standards, well if todays standards mean spending money then sod that, its not for me. I have read the forum, I have seen the FSG are at fault threads, HOW ARE THEY? what? they are at fault because they refuse to buy the league? hey in my opinion they are more me than many supporters here.

You all have to realise the reason why the game is up for Liverpool. Rich clubs are paying for success, and clubs like Liverpool are being left behind, and all the while fans are becoming disillusioned, and why not?

Our league, our clubs, our players are over priced, over payed, and one day one person will realise, its over sold.

The problem Liverpool have is the same as the rest of the league.

Rich owners.

Football isnt the same as it used to be.

I see Liverpool supporters blaming everything but each other, the fact is, money determines status.

I have seen threads regarding who has spent the most as Liverpool manager, consider which clubs have spent more, and continue to do so.

The problem is this, football is crap.

Its not the same as what we are used to, nowadays its all about the richest clubs, look at our league, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, could you imagine during the 70's these clubs being powerhouses? no, they could never attract the best players, today however, we live in a lousy greedy world. We live in a world where money rules.

I have stopped supporting Liverpool, not because im out of love with them, but the league has left clubs like Liverpool out in the dark, if you dont have a rich owner, give it up.

I see the comments today, FSG are not up to todays standards, well if todays standards mean spending money then sod that, its not for me. I have read the forum, I have seen the FSG are at fault threads, HOW ARE THEY? what? they are at fault because they refuse to buy the league? hey in my opinion they are more me than many supporters here.

You all have to realise the reason why the game is up for Liverpool. Rich clubs are paying for success, and clubs like Liverpool are being left behind, and all the while fans are becoming disillusioned, and why not?

Our league, our clubs, our players are over priced, over payed, and one day one person will realise, its over sold.

F**k off lid.

F**k off lid.

absolutely ridiculous post. i was expecting to see a dozen upvotes, to be honest. how can you argue with anything he said? people like to put the blame on everything but what is really the problem - football is corrupt, england is shattered, everything is a mess...

absolutely ridiculous post. i was expecting to see a dozen upvotes, to be honest. how can you argue with anything he said? people like to put the blame on everything but what is really the problem - football is corrupt, england is shattered, everything is a mess...

Money in football is like drugs in cycling. In cycling if you want to compete you either take the drugs, stop everyone taking the drugs, or just accept you wont win much. In football if you want to compete you either spend the money, stop everyone from spending the money or just accept you wont win much. We have already tried stopping the spending (ffp) and that didn't work so the choice is spend the F***ing money or accept you wont win much ... I think we all know which option FSG picked.
 

absolutely ridiculous post. i was expecting to see a dozen upvotes, to be honest. how can you argue with anything he said? people like to put the blame on everything but what is really the problem - football is corrupt, england is shattered, everything is a mess...

What did it for me was when he said he no longer supported Liverpool.

You don't just stop....

The problem Liverpool have is the same as the rest of the league.

Rich owners.

Football isnt the same as it used to be.

I see Liverpool supporters blaming everything but each other, the fact is, money determines status.

I have seen threads regarding who has spent the most as Liverpool manager, consider which clubs have spent more, and continue to do so.

The problem is this, football is crap.

Its not the same as what we are used to, nowadays its all about the richest clubs, look at our league, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, could you imagine during the 70's these clubs being powerhouses? no, they could never attract the best players, today however, we live in a lousy greedy world. We live in a world where money rules.

I have stopped supporting Liverpool, not because im out of love with them, but the league has left clubs like Liverpool out in the dark, if you dont have a rich owner, give it up.

I see the comments today, FSG are not up to todays standards, well if todays standards mean spending money then sod that, its not for me. I have read the forum, I have seen the FSG are at fault threads, HOW ARE THEY? what? they are at fault because they refuse to buy the league? hey in my opinion they are more me than many supporters here.

You all have to realise the reason why the game is up for Liverpool. Rich clubs are paying for success, and clubs like Liverpool are being left behind, and all the while fans are becoming disillusioned, and why not?

Our league, our clubs, our players are over priced, over payed, and one day one person will realise, its over sold.

The thing is that we are having much smaller clubs overtake us. Chelsea, Manc C and Arse showed serious investment (Arse much more so in stadium, but sold some star players). We have a massive fan base and formerly a massive name.

But Lpool has been butchered by greed and the associated under-investment of 2 sets of Americans.
Last yr acc to Swiss Ramble it had 128m debt on the club. THE SAME as under G&H. This is purely purchase debt ie purchase of the club in a parasitic manner, NOT operational activity. Now imagine if just HALF of that amount had been used to cure the G&H disease back in 2010!

I mean as little as TEN M net spend over teh Summer. Relative wage cuts. Its certainly not "sugar daddies" beating us. Its proud investors  at real football clubs beating greedy bas**rds at Anfield.

Moores was rich, but he wasnt a "rich owner" like Abramovich. He just wanted LFC as a football club. Abramovich saw that if he invested, he could turn Chelsea into a great club. The fact Lpool just dont want to compete, makes his job (and Manc C's and Arse's) so much easier.

We need these Boston bas**rds out.

well sometimes you have to make a tough call if something that you once loved now makes your life worse. i have not stopped following LFC personally but i can understand how someone who has been emotionally invested in their footy club all their life has become disenchanted. first they would stop supporting with their money, but then it becomes their heart.. because all they wanted to do was follow a footy team and now it's become about everything but footy. you can't just watch a game of footy on tv anymore, too much politics and bullshit. the only pure football i get nowadays is watching my bro in the amateur leagues. that is still a sport and not staged entertainment. it's just sad our club is just a pawn in this entertainment game. that is what is hardest to take.

It's more like watching your current girlfriend, who was an absolute stunner, just let herself go!!

Yeah that's more like it :-) proper wrecked last night.

It's more like watching your current girlfriend, who was an absolute stunner, just let herself go!!

And to top it all of she went out at the weekend and got herself fu**ed up the arse by a manc.