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      Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager

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      billythered
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #12466: Apr 10, 2017 11:35:26 am
      Criticise much like realise are English versions and the North Americans chose to put z's because the sound of the s is a z, can't blame them if I'm honest. English is the most complicated language in the world and here's a little poem I liked that explains the situation:

      Dearest creature in creation,
      Study English pronunciation.
      I will teach you in my verse
      Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
      I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
      Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
      Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
      So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.

      Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
      Dies and diet, lord and word,
      Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
      (Mind the latter, how it's written.)
      Now I surely will not plague you
      With such words as plaque and ague.
      But be careful how you speak:
      Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
      Cloven, oven, how and low,
      Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.

      Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
      Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
      Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
      Exiles, similes, and reviles;
      Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
      Solar, mica, war and far;
      One, anemone, Balmoral,
      Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
      Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
      Scene, Melpomene, mankind.

      Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
      Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
      Blood and flood are not like food,
      Nor is mould like should and would.
      Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
      Toward, to forward, to reward.
      And your pronunciation's OK
      When you correctly say croquet,
      Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
      Friend and fiend, alive and live.

      Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
      And enamour rhyme with hammer.
      River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
      Doll and roll and some and home.
      Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
      Neither does devour with clangour.
      Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
      Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
      Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
      And then singer, ginger, linger,
      Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
      Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.

      Query does not rhyme with very,
      Nor does fury sound like bury.
      Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
      Job, n*b, bosom, transom, oath.
      Though the differences seem little,
      We say actual but victual.
      Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
      Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
      Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
      Dull, bull, and George ate late.
      Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
      Science, conscience, scientific.

      Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
      Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
      We say hallowed, but allowed,
      People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
      Mark the differences, moreover,
      Between mover, cover, clover;
      Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
      Chalice, but police and lice;
      Camel, constable, unstable,
      Principle, disciple, label.

      Petal, panel, and canal,
      Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
      Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
      Senator, spectator, mayor.
      Tour, but our and succour, four.
      Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
      Sea, idea, Korea, area,
      Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
      Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
      Doctrine, turpentine, marine.

      Compare alien with Italian,
      Dandelion and battalion.
      Sally with ally, yea, ye,
      Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
      Say aver, but ever, fever,
      Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
      Heron, granary, canary.
      Crevice and device and aerie.

      Face, but preface, not efface.
      Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
      Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
      Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
      Ear, but earn and wear and tear
      Do not rhyme with here but ere.
      Seven is right, but so is even,
      Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
      Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
      Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.

      Pronunciation — think of Psyche!
      Is a paling stout and spikey?
      Won't it make you lose your wits,
      Writing groats and saying grits?
      It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
      Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
      Islington and Isle of Wight,
      Housewife, verdict and indict.

      Finally, which rhymes with enough —
      Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
      Hiccough has the sound of cup.
      My advice is to give up!!!*

      Ok, little may have been slightly inaccurate!

      f***in hell Luke, you been reading Byron 😂

      YNWA
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #12467: Apr 10, 2017 07:11:33 pm
      So....what about that Klopp fella?.....

      Pretty good manager I reckon.

       :)
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #12468: Apr 11, 2017 12:35:02 pm
      So....what about that Klopp fella?.....

      Pretty good manager I reckon.

       :)


      Me too. :)
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      Reply #12469: Apr 11, 2017 01:00:51 pm
      For all the slagging we have got for being frail at the back, we have the most points gained from a losing position, that's down klopps motivational skills.

      Superb, bodes well.

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      Reply #12470: Apr 11, 2017 01:06:42 pm
      For all the slagging we have got for being frail at the back, we have the most points gained from a losing position, that's down klopps motivational skills.

      Superb, bodes well.



      Our goal average isn't too clever but we have scored the most goals in the Prem.
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      Reply #12471: Apr 11, 2017 01:09:45 pm
      Our goal average isn't too clever but we have scored the most goals in the Prem.

      True.

      We all know defence has been poor, but as with Brendans period its partly down to our attacking style, and tbh. some terrible terrible individual errors.

      Injuries to CB's at various parts of the season have not helped, and the shako situe.

      I'm sure klopps priority this pre-season is to improve our defence.

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      Reply #12472: Apr 11, 2017 04:44:59 pm
      For all the slagging we have got for being frail at the back, we have the most points gained from a losing position, that's down klopps motivational skills.

      Superb, bodes well.

      Excellent point.

      Not that we're opposed to comfortable, 3-0 wins mind. Really! Those are alright as well.  :laugh:
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      Reply #12473: Apr 11, 2017 09:49:00 pm
      For all the slagging we have got for being frail at the back, we have the most points gained from a losing position, that's down klopps motivational skills.

      Superb, bodes well.



      Even more than Spurs?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #12474: Apr 11, 2017 09:50:57 pm

      Yep, we have won from a losing position 5 times this season I think, which is more than any other team.
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      Reply #12475: Apr 12, 2017 01:19:43 am
      Yep, we have won from a losing position 5 times this season I think, which is more than any other team.

      How many times have we been pegged back from a winning position?

      At a guess, I'd say we'd win that one too, well, anyone from the top 6.
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      Reply #12476: Apr 12, 2017 01:54:09 am
      Yep, we have won from a losing position 5 times this season I think, which is more than any other team.

      Fair play.

      I thought I read somewhere the other day that Spurs have won 53 points from a losing position more then any other team I think that must have been over Pochettinos time and not 1 season.
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      Reply #12477: Apr 12, 2017 01:26:31 pm
      I might be wrong but I'm sure its something like 6 games we have behind in this season and got points from them, the last 2 games are good examples.
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      Reply #12478: Apr 14, 2017 04:42:52 am
      We are all on his side but if these signings don't happen this summer... I'm out of the money stream for these horrible bunch of mongs in charge of our club. I detest them so much.
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      Reply #12479: Apr 14, 2017 08:35:46 am
      We are all on his side but if these signings don't happen this summer... I'm out of the money stream for these horrible bunch of mongs in charge of our club. I detest them so much.

      Will you blame Jürgen though, he'll be the one that takes the blame, FSG will make sure of that!
      It's going to be the situation that if we finish in the top 4, it well be an acceptable achievement for Jürgen this season, whereas if we miss out on the the CL places, even if is only on goal difference, he will have failed, and will get blamed for not strengthening the squad. Hope for his sake we make it.
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      Reply #12480: Apr 14, 2017 05:59:05 pm
      Will you blame Jürgen though, he'll be the one that takes the blame, FSG will make sure of that!
      It's going to be the situation that if we finish in the top 4, it well be an acceptable achievement for Jürgen this season, whereas if we miss out on the the CL places, even if is only on goal difference, he will have failed, and will get blamed for not strengthening the squad. Hope for his sake we make it.

      Well there is the dilemma, we've heard our managers being adamant that they have all the freedom to get who they want then we look at the transfer windows and go well wth was that all about. Most of the top targets never get signed.
       Signings are essential to move on from the middle of the road type players we've got in our squad. It only takes one or two injuries then it becomes blatantly obvious how weak our team is.

      I'm at a point where if they don't back Jürgen then (who is going to come in that will magically change that) I'll wait to support the team when different owners come in.



      Hoping to see Klopp put his foot down with getting rid of players and demanding the signings he really wants, not Netto bargain bin second, third or forth choices.

      Lets hope we start sorting crap out on the executive side of things or we'll all be here in 10 years voicing the same concerns.
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      Reply #12481: Apr 14, 2017 06:35:14 pm
      Will you blame Jürgen though, he'll be the one that takes the blame, FSG will make sure of that!
      It's going to be the situation that if we finish in the top 4, it well be an acceptable achievement for Jürgen this season, whereas if we miss out on the the CL places, even if is only on goal difference, he will have failed, and will get blamed for not strengthening the squad. Hope for his sake we make it.

      No way that can happen mate, JWH&Co have played the blame game too often to divert and deceive.
      Jürgen Klopp is an acknowledged winner and our owners may have shot themselves in the foot with his appointment, Klopp has proved he is more than capable of achieving success with the right backing, if that element is in short supply there is only one party at fault.

      It is to be seen if the assurances of money for signings next season is worth more than the empty promise about making LFC 'great again' all those years ago.
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      Reply #12482: Apr 14, 2017 07:53:26 pm
      Will you blame Jürgen though, he'll be the one that takes the blame, FSG will make sure of that!
      It's going to be the situation that if we finish in the top 4, it well be an acceptable achievement for Jürgen this season, whereas if we miss out on the the CL places, even if is only on goal difference, he will have failed, and will get blamed for not strengthening the squad. Hope for his sake we make it.

      I will blame Jürgen for us not winning the title this year. Ultimately it all rests on his shoulders. He also gets credit for any good that comes of this team. He took on the job knowing what kind of task he had and what kind of owners he'd be working with. There's nothing for him to hide from (and I don't think  he is). All this talk of blaming FSG is foolish. Jürgen wasn't hoodwinked about the task at hand or what he had to work with.
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      Reply #12483: Apr 14, 2017 08:42:26 pm
      Will you blame Jürgen though, he'll be the one that takes the blame, FSG will make sure of that!
      It's going to be the situation that if we finish in the top 4, it well be an acceptable achievement for Jürgen this season, whereas if we miss out on the the CL places, even if is only on goal difference, he will have failed, and will get blamed for not strengthening the squad. Hope for his sake we make it.

      I actually think it'll be the opposite mate.

      I think Jürgen will get praise for all things that go well and FSG get the sharp end for everything that doesn't.
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      Reply #12484: Apr 14, 2017 09:19:39 pm
      I actually think it'll be the opposite mate.

      I think Jürgen will get praise for all things that go well and FSG get the sharp end for everything that doesn't.
      Tbh mate I think the only thing fsg will get pelters for and rightly so imho is if we sell what stars we have and once again replace with unproven youngsters , that I feel will be unforgivable ,
      The time has come to add some steel to a team I feel is not too far away , Jürgen will have learnt a hell of a lot this season , a season that should hold him and the team in good stead for a good few seasons .
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      Reply #12485: Apr 14, 2017 09:28:42 pm
      I will blame Jürgen for us not winning the title this year. Ultimately it all rests on his shoulders. He also gets credit for any good that comes of this team. He took on the job knowing what kind of task he had and what kind of owners he'd be working with. There's nothing for him to hide from (and I don't think  he is). All this talk of blaming FSG is foolish. Jürgen wasn't hoodwinked about the task at hand or what he had to work with.
      So will i . I will blame him for being weak if he accepts conditions from the owners on his transfer targets. I will blame him if HE buys poor footballers . He was brought here to win us the league and is being paid millions to do so . That's the job and he needs to deliver .
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      Reply #12486: Apr 14, 2017 09:50:21 pm
      I will blame Jürgen for us not winning the title this year. Ultimately it all rests on his shoulders. He also gets credit for any good that comes of this team. He took on the job knowing what kind of task he had and what kind of owners he'd be working with. There's nothing for him to hide from (and I don't think  he is). All this talk of blaming FSG is foolish. Jürgen wasn't hoodwinked about the task at hand or what he had to work with.


      Well I for one have had enough of blaming the managers when we have owners who despite the sport awash in money refuse to spend any money despite their claims of being able to compete with anyone!

      If I see some evidence of ambition from the owners then I might reconsider.

      How many managers are you willing to go through before you might consider the issue might be with the owners?
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      Reply #12487: Apr 14, 2017 10:19:22 pm
      I will blame Jürgen for us not winning the title this year. Ultimately it all rests on his shoulders. He also gets credit for any good that comes of this team. He took on the job knowing what kind of task he had and what kind of owners he'd be working with. There's nothing for him to hide from (and I don't think  he is). All this talk of blaming FSG is foolish. Jürgen wasn't hoodwinked about the task at hand or what he had to work with.
      Agree, he had plenty of time to sort out our open net.
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      Reply #12488: Apr 14, 2017 10:57:13 pm
      Tbh mate I think the only thing fsg will get pelters for and rightly so imho is if we sell what stars we have and once again replace with unproven youngsters , that I feel will be unforgivable ,
      The time has come to add some steel to a team I feel is not too far away , Jürgen will have learnt a hell of a lot this season , a season that should hold him and the team in good stead for a good few seasons .


      It'll be very interesting to see what happens, I'm hoping we get a good combination of both steel and new young talent personally.

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