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      Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager

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      Reply #13133: Aug 12, 2017 05:14:53 pm
      Come on guys Klopps great just needs to deligate the defending to a better qualified coach he clearly needs help
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      Reply #13134: Aug 12, 2017 05:18:00 pm
      Capability and accountability rest at both manager and players alike ,having the same problem with the biggest war chest in Liverpool history for 18 months is ludicrous, other issues have us waiting on sales and departures we were told that things were well in hand months ago for the coming transfer window , its got 19/20 odd days to go I would suggest sales and departures were sorted rapidly to get everybody singing of the same hymn sheet .
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      Reply #13135: Aug 12, 2017 05:18:10 pm
      Come on guys Klopps great just needs to deligate the defending to a better qualified coach he clearly needs help

      He needs better playing staff. City spent over a hundred million on theirs this summer. Both teams had weakness in defence. Liverpool's lack of ambition has been glaringly laid bare.

      Not sure what Klopp can do about it but that's what he is up against.
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      Reply #13136: Aug 12, 2017 05:25:47 pm
      He needs better playing staff. City spent over a hundred million on theirs this summer. Both teams had weakness in defence. Liverpool's lack of ambition has been glaringly laid bare.

      Not sure what Klopp can do about it but that's what he is up against.

      Depends doesn't it because apparently he's not a cheque book manager and he won't 'overpay' for players.

      Well what is overpaying? If Man City walk the league from spending 50 million on Walker and 40 Million on Mendy, then they've not over paid, they've spent well.

      Meanwhile we're either shopping at Hull, playing midfielders there or persisting with Moreno on one side and relying on a kid to fill in for the average and injured Clyne on the other.

      Means we get left behind before the seasons even began. Is Klopp behind that philosophy too? Ancelotti told Fenway we needed to buy a brand new spine and it would cost them 150 million. No shock that they then chose Klopp.

      For what it is worth full blame on our disgraceful record defending from set pieces has to go to him.
      « Last Edit: Aug 12, 2017 05:33:56 pm by fields of anny rd »
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      Reply #13137: Aug 12, 2017 05:41:35 pm
      Klopp is simply not up for it, he has no desire to fix our problems

      Our main strength last season was our end product with our attack

      Our biggest weakness was our back 5 and then our cm

      Yet he has only strengthened our attack, this means our potential to better is going to be minimal as we are improving an already great attack

      Klopp is finished at Liverpool, he has no desire to be the best. Only a poor manager has no plan b or c in terms of buys
      Username makes this Ironic post of the year and the season is only the 2 days old.
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      Reply #13138: Aug 12, 2017 05:42:16 pm
      ;D

      We have over 150m and klopp has no plan b

      He is a great coach but not a great manager

      He has killed our optimism and season


      I think I speak for the majority when I say shut the F**k up you utter fuckwit!
      Its one game, where we had a massive amount of bad luck and the defence and team in general were off colour, hardly surprising really when you take the Coutinho situation into account. Perhaps give it a few more games before you start calling for the return of Hodgson!!
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      Reply #13139: Aug 12, 2017 06:05:34 pm
      I think I speak for the majority when I say shut the f**k up you utter fuckwit!
      Its one game, where we had a massive amount of bad luck and the defence and team in general were off colour, hardly surprising really when you take the Coutinho situation into account. Perhaps give it a few more games before you start calling for the return of Hodgson!!

      Of course bad luck

      It's always bad luck, god what game did you watch and where were you last season

      Its people like you who will never allow this club to push on

      Keep blaming bad luck, when we finish 4th or less, blame luck

      It's not bad luck when the manager does not buy a plan b or c

      It's call fckn up in the summer transfer window

      Quit your excuses and loser mentality
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      Reply #13140: Aug 12, 2017 06:18:09 pm
      Of course bad luck

      It's always bad luck, god what game did you watch and where were you last season

      Its people like you who will never allow this club to push on

      Keep blaming bad luck, when we finish 4th or less, blame luck

      It's not bad luck when the manager does not buy a plan b or c

      It's call fckn up in the summer transfer window

      Quit your excuses and loser mentality



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32bdevGClD4
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      Reply #13141: Aug 12, 2017 06:26:59 pm
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      Reply #13142: Aug 12, 2017 06:29:01 pm

      I'm
      Already broken and it's only been one game

      What made it so bad was it was a carbon copy of last season
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      Reply #13143: Aug 12, 2017 06:33:24 pm
      Not sure what Klopp can do about it but that's what he is up against.

      He could buy some players.
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      Reply #13144: Aug 12, 2017 06:40:21 pm
      Of course bad luck

      It's always bad luck, god what game did you watch and where were you last season

      Its people like you who will never allow this club to push on

      Keep blaming bad luck, when we finish 4th or less, blame luck

      It's not bad luck when the manager does not buy a plan b or c

      It's call fckn up in the summer transfer window

      Quit your excuses and loser mentality


      Got an early contender here...
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #13145: Aug 12, 2017 06:40:51 pm

      Username does not check out.....
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      Reply #13146: Aug 12, 2017 06:45:00 pm
      I know if l was Liverpool manger tommory won't have side ways Jordon captain he sh*t all he does run around our defence is joke not that hard buy one midfield who score goals control game get in couple better cbacks grujic should be get chance he look much better then Jordon
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      Reply #13147: Aug 12, 2017 06:47:26 pm
      Klopp didn't sound to happy about the Coutinho situation...maybe it's lost in translation but it seemed to me that  he would be fine with Phil leaving. I think Klopp is taking this all very personal. With how he's shut  out Sakho....Phil may be in for a long road back if he isn't sold.
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      Reply #13148: Aug 12, 2017 06:53:21 pm
      Chelsea played sh*te, I know it's not Liverpool but people would be touching themselves up at the prospect of grabbing a few of their players and look same opening day and champions rekd.
      Let the season unravel, I am worried about that text about Klopp, Coutinho and the owners because it seems to fit in to what he was acting like today. Couldn't put my finger on it but in the interview before the match he wasn't right.
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      Reply #13149: Aug 12, 2017 06:57:02 pm
      Of course bad luck

      It's always bad luck, god what game did you watch and where were you last season

      Its people like you who will never allow this club to push on

      Keep blaming bad luck, when we finish 4th or less, blame luck

      It's not bad luck when the manager does not buy a plan b or c

      It's call fckn up in the summer transfer window

      Quit your excuses and loser mentality


      Oh come on both the second and third goal were very lucky for Watford in that the ball pinged off about 3 players before landing beautifully in front of a Watford player, they were both scrambled ugly goals. You could argue it was poor defending and I'd probably agree with you but to get all doom and gloom after one game where we played a pretty decent Watford side, who were certainly highly motivated and well drilled, to a high scoring draw is a bit pathetic and is definitely a LOSER mentality.
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      Reply #13150: Aug 12, 2017 06:58:14 pm
      Chelsea played sh*te, I know it's not Liverpool but people would be touching themselves up at the prospect of grabbing a few of their players and look same opening day and champions rekd.
      Let the season unravel, I am worried about that text about Klopp, Coutinho and the owners because it seems to fit in to what he was acting like today. Couldn't put my finger on it but in the interview before the match he wasn't right.

      Exactly, opening games are always a bit weird, no need to panic yet, any other day and we would have won that game with 3-4 goals to spare.
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      Reply #13151: Aug 12, 2017 07:10:23 pm
      Leaving aside the selection, and the lack of transfers etc. 2 things:
      - not just the back 4, but as a team we still can't defend set pieces
      - thought the substitutions today were terrible and took any wind that was in our sails, out.

      Origi when I've seen him preseason looks off pace, and not fully fit/sharp, a player who has big swings in form, up and down. Did he touch the ball after coming on?  No clue why Solanke didn't come on, who has actually looked sharp.

      Ideally our CBs would be more dominant. Hope we sign VVD. But last goal was a F***ing sh*te attempt at a header by Gini, followed by a meek effort from Migs to make the space, and ball, his. First goal I think Firmino looses his man. Matip doesn't get off the ground. It's not just down to the CBs though, anyone in that box should have a job to do, but continue not doing it.  BR got lacerated for not being able to get the side, and defense, to defend. Things haven't changed under Jürgen, yet.

      A dominant CK and CB though would make a diff. But that's old news. Was this not part of the big summer transfer plan then?!?!
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      Reply #13152: Aug 12, 2017 08:03:50 pm
      https://youtu.be/_tDbEbrStZU

      Jürgen interview. Seems Jürgen isn't as in control off transfers as some of you want to believe!

      "I have bosses yeah? And if bosses decide for example, just in general, we sell a player or we don't sell him, then I have to accept it. If we don't sell him then I'm not involved anymore. I'm responsible for all the players. I've to work with the players I have."
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      Reply #13153: Aug 12, 2017 08:15:09 pm
      FSG will go before Klopp goes :mad:
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      Reply #13154: Aug 12, 2017 08:57:08 pm
      "I have bosses yeah? And if bosses decide for example, just in general, we sell a player or we don't sell him, then I have to accept it. If we don't sell him then I'm not involved anymore. I'm responsible for all the players. I've to work with the players I have."

      I think this is a big change in how Klopp is talking about the transfers etc and leads me to believe he isn't happy.

      And who'd blame him?
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      Reply #13155: Aug 12, 2017 09:00:59 pm
      I think this is a big change in how Klopp is talking about the transfers etc and leads me to believe he isn't happy.

      And who'd blame him?

      Well he signed up knowing the score, just like Brendan did. No point complaining about it now, unless of course he was misled by FSG 🤔 Surely not!

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