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      Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager

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      lreland
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14191: Oct 03, 2017 01:34:22 pm
      Klopp be in third year next he have other rebuilt job on look like we need about 6 or 7 better players then what we have can't see him win league here when his time up he should do rebuilt job when he come in got rid of sh*t
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14192: Oct 03, 2017 01:35:57 pm
      He get big money for Philip countho and can be gone l think be few more gone next summer
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14193: Oct 03, 2017 03:38:11 pm
      City spent 200 million on a defence.
      racer, it not so much about the money as how you spend it... There are some good players out there that will vastly improve our defense... The young Burnley lad James Tarkowski looked impressive against us, sure he will not cost as much as VVD, but the two would be nice to have  ;D

      Unless LFC actually address that area of the first team it doesn't matter what manager is at the club.
      Mentally weak players will remain mentally weak players.
      There are too many of them in the first team.
      Amen to that
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14194: Oct 03, 2017 03:39:53 pm
      If it isn't broken, don't fix it !

      When are you gonna realise Jürgen, it is f**king broken !
      Broke...?? It's mash up
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14195: Oct 04, 2017 05:00:28 pm
      how much would Masch be worth to this team now?
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14196: Oct 04, 2017 06:13:21 pm
      how much would Masch be worth to this team now?

      The current one?

      Not much as he wouldn't be able to cope.

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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14197: Oct 04, 2017 06:38:20 pm
      The current one?

      Not much as he wouldn't be able to cope.

      Therein lies the problem with a lot of these 'solutions' people keep throwing out. Certain players, or certain types of player, would require the entire system changing and that is not something I see Klopp doing any time soon.
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      Reply #14198: Oct 04, 2017 08:07:00 pm
      The young Burnley lad James Tarkowski looked impressive against us, sure he will not cost as much as VVD, but the two would be nice to have


      Don't you think playing for a Burnley side that has two banks of 4 parked in their own half and playing for the current Liverpool side that defends on the halfway line two different things? Sure, there could be a few defenders out there, but, I am not sure if Tarkowski is one of them.
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14199: Oct 04, 2017 08:28:38 pm
      I was hoping to replace Henderson. Had my CV typed up and everything, put drunk Sunday kick abouts on there...



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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14200: Oct 04, 2017 08:57:49 pm
      For me, Klopp is ruining is time here himself.
      I wonder what does he do in training! Nothing seems to improve, nothing changes. The players run and are free to create but we lack balance, structure and proper defending techniques... so frustrating.

      I know it won't happen but we need a defensive coach like Clarke. He did wonders here.
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      Reply #14201: Oct 05, 2017 03:02:55 pm
      Getting increasingly frustrated at how repetitive and predictable we have become as a team.

      I think we are in desperate need of a shake up, I think we should look to re-shuffle the formation a bit, maybe something like the below.



                                             Mignolet

              Clyne                         Matip                       Gomez

      Can                                                                          Moreno     

                                          Henderson
                           
      Salah                                                                    Mane

                                   Coutinho     
       
                                                   Firmino         

                                           
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      Reply #14202: Oct 05, 2017 03:56:09 pm
      Getting increasingly frustrated at how repetitive and predictable we have become as a team.

      I think we are in desperate need of a shake up, I think we should look to re-shuffle the formation a bit, maybe something like the below.



                                             Mignolet

              Clyne                         Matip                       Gomez

      Can                                                                          Moreno     

                                          Henderson
                           
      Salah                                                                    Mane

                                   Coutinho     
       
                                                   Firmino         

                                           

      So the dreaded monkey in the middle formation with Henderson being the monkey?
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      Reply #14203: Oct 05, 2017 04:11:06 pm
      So the dreaded monkey in the middle formation with Henderson being the monkey?


      Just put it together randomly, the main point is what we are trying to do now is just not working.

      Looking back at it i would have Can in the middle and Ox out right.
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      Reply #14204: Oct 06, 2017 11:07:03 am
      Therein lies the problem with a lot of these 'solutions' people keep throwing out. Certain players, or certain types of player, would require the entire system changing and that is not something I see Klopp doing any time soon.

      and therein lies the real problem, Klopp's inflexibility, stubbornness, tactical naivety and lack of vision.
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      Reply #14205: Oct 06, 2017 01:25:14 pm
      Therein lies the problem with a lot of these 'solutions' people keep throwing out. Certain players, or certain types of player, would require the entire system changing and that is not something I see Klopp doing any time soon.

      Are you refering to a proper DM/DLPM? I don't see how that would require the entire system to change.
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      Reply #14206: Oct 06, 2017 01:40:53 pm
      Absolutely nothing wrong with the system, fact is some of our Main players are simply not at the level to implement it properly, add to this the defense and the midfield are not nor will ever be good enough to take us up to the levels required to compete consistently at the top table,

      This will take time and obviously a shed load of dollars, Klopp will get it right but for now he is making do with what he has, we can argue til we're red in the face about how he should have bought this player or that and perhaps there exists some very valid points, however like the man himself has said they have to be the right players with the right fit,

      January may well prove very fruitful and bring in one or two quality individuals that will bolster our campaign going into the new year, maybe even see Naby come in for 5 months acclimitisation ready for next season,

      This month will tell us a lot about where we're at , get through this relatively unscathed we could get our mojo back over Xmas and into January.

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      Reply #14207: Oct 06, 2017 06:00:07 pm
      I wish people would stop having a pop at Jürgen, best manager we could have and he will get us going! Has my full support even though some keyboard warriors seem to know better regarding transfers, systems and any other bollox they throw out. Get a grip.

      I think most people on here know better how to organise a defence yes, I also think most people on here know more formations than Klopp appears to know and they might even know that sometimes you have to change tactics mid game.
      Best manager we could have, hmm I'm not so sure about that any more, sorry but I really am starting to lose faith in Jürgen a bit or is there some kind of special genius behind nor getting another CB in the summer and instead spending £40 million on the Ox?
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      Reply #14208: Oct 06, 2017 06:15:45 pm
      I wish people would stop having a pop at Jürgen, best manager we could have and he will get us going! Has my full support even though some keyboard warriors seem to know better regarding transfers, systems and any other bollox they throw out. Get a grip.

      Both Rinus Michels and Rafa (an avid student of Michels approach) advocated that the players fit the system, and not to change the system to suit the players, because if you do it that way, you are saying the approach (system) is wrong.

      Klopp as well seems to be from the Michels school, in that he believes in controlling the whole environment (in this case the pitch) rather than sections of it.
      We all know (or should) that Michels was the architect of Total Football, which again seems to be what Klopp aspires to, along with trusting players, and giving players freedom, and this is especially hard to coach in an era where many players are over coached from a young age into rigid structures and formations.

      The idea that some fella on an internet forum "knows better" than Klopp, what Klopp is working towards is laughable.
      Klopp isn't thinking about just the next game, he has already mapped out the season, and knows his long term plans for next season.
      It's his nature to think long term, and work towards the goals he has set.

      People looking for short term solutions are going to be disappointed.
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      Reply #14209: Oct 06, 2017 07:27:29 pm
      I think most people on here know better how to organise a defence yes, I also think most people on here know more formations than Klopp appears to know and they might even know that sometimes you have to change tactics mid game.
      Best manager we could have, hmm I'm not so sure about that any more, sorry but I really am starting to lose faith in Jürgen a bit or is there some kind of special genius behind nor getting another CB in the summer and instead spending £40 million on the Ox?


      Why don't you apply to manage a football team, you should have plenty of offers after all you are better than a twice winning title manager who also reached a CL final.

      F***ing clowns calling themselves LFC fans, posters like you deserve Hodgson!

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      Reply #14210: Oct 06, 2017 07:35:37 pm
      Why don't you apply to manage a football team, you should have plenty of offers after all you are better than a twice winning title manager who also reached a CL final.

      F***ing clowns calling themselves LFC fans, posters like you deserve Hodgson!



      Too many games of football manager i think
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      Reply #14211: Oct 06, 2017 07:51:45 pm
      Why don't you apply to manage a football team, you should have plenty of offers after all you are better than a twice winning title manager who also reached a CL final.

      F***ing clowns calling themselves LFC fans, posters like you deserve Hodgson!

      He is def a clown when it comes to this topic, but bro :o :angry-smiley-034:

      I feel for anyone who truly crosses you  :lmao:
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      Reply #14212: Oct 06, 2017 10:22:15 pm
      Don't you think playing for a Burnley side that has two banks of 4 parked in their own half and playing for the current Liverpool side that defends on the halfway line two different things? Sure, there could be a few defenders out there, but, I am not sure if Tarkowski is one of them.

      Go back and re-watch the game and watch him in particular, his reading of the game, his tackling, his blocks... I know one thing... His better than Lovren by a country mile.... I think your objection to him is that he plays for Burnley... We bought  Robertson from Hull City
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      Re: Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool FC Manager
      Reply #14213: Oct 06, 2017 10:36:30 pm

      Who is lucky if he even makes the bench

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