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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #161: Apr 27, 2016 06:50:27 am
      Worth noting as well that The Scum's editor Tony Gallagher was editor of The Daily Telegraph in 2012 when the Independent Panel's findings were released and on that day that newspaper was the only one that didn't have Hillsborough on the front of it, which was surprising for a broadsheet (thankfully the Telegraph does run it on its front page today under new editorial direction).

      It's clear that Gallagher holds a contemptible attitude towards the events and the families.

      Plenty of worms scurrying away into their corners.
      Be very afraid.
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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #162: Apr 27, 2016 08:52:08 am
      Worth noting as well that The Scum's editor Tony Gallagher was editor of The Daily Telegraph in 2012 when the Independent Panel's findings were released and on that day that newspaper was the only one that didn't have Hillsborough on the front of it, which was surprising for a broadsheet (thankfully the Telegraph does run it on its front page today under new editorial direction).

      It's clear that Gallagher holds a contemptible attitude towards the events and the families.
      I was unaware of that FMS but it comes as no surprise. All Reds should understand that Murdoch's minions make a point of hating Liverpool; of attacking all things Red.

      I was a bit of a wreck just watching the coverage a few times yesterday and I'm no soft man but you know what... today's a new day. Truth and Justice yesterday; today... it's time to start hunting the lily-livered cu*ts and the liars down.

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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #163: Apr 27, 2016 09:09:53 am
      What'll happen now is the establishment will rush to blame it on the chief inspector who is now dead (White is it?). It'll turn out that it was "all his fault", and f*** all will happen to anybody else.

      The barriers to justice and the truth have been breached Mick, the authorities who sheltered behind those barriers will now be legally bound to dismantle any more obstacles in the highest court in the land and the families will have the resources to do so.
       
      Chief inspectors do not make decisions like those enacted in the cover up without a higher approval, there will be highly trained legal minds eager to unravel the veils of deceit in the next stage of the process.
      « Last Edit: Apr 27, 2016 09:35:40 am by stuey »
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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #164: Apr 27, 2016 09:13:38 am
      The barriers to justice and the truth have been breached Mick, the authorities who sheltered behind those barriers will now be legally bound to dismantle any more obstacles in the highest court in the land and will have the resources to do so.
       
      Chief inspectors do not make decisions like those enacted in the cover up without a higher approval, there will be highly trained legal minds eager to unravel the veils of deceit in the next stage of the process.

      Hopefully mate. I can just see a few lower down minions being offered up as fodder.
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      Reply #165: Apr 27, 2016 09:51:27 am
      Hopefully mate. I can just see a few lower down minions being offered up as fodder.

      Scapegoats will be routinely presented as they have been for 27 years mate, it is no more than a delaying tactic.
      The ploy is well discovered and should be as routinely dismissed by the family's councils.
      The establishment no longer wields control and is on the back foot.
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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #166: Apr 27, 2016 09:52:36 am
      Hopefully mate. I can just see a few lower down minions being offered up as fodder.

      I'm not so sure, I think it will have to be quite a juicy sacrificial lamb to satisfy the public's anger, they really do have no where to run now.
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      Reply #167: Apr 27, 2016 10:19:55 am
      The match commander that day who soaked up responsibility like blame blotting paper was elevated in rank to dizzy heights and made a knight of the realm, the despicable man has one hell of a fall to contemplate.

      David Duckenfield is reportedly sunning himself abroad as the inquest verdict was declared.
      Make the most of it Sir Snake before your shady past is scrutinised.
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      Reply #168: Apr 27, 2016 10:26:54 am
      The match commander that day who soaked up responsibility like blame blotting paper was elevated in rank to dizzy heights and made a knight of the realm, the despicable man has one hell of a fall to contemplate.

      I would not be surprised if he commits sideways stuey.
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      Reply #169: Apr 27, 2016 10:33:02 am
      I would not be surprised if he commits sideways stuey.

      I want to see the c**t in the dock Billy grassing up all of his superiors on that tragic day when he gave no thought to anyone but his miserable self.
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      Reply #170: Apr 27, 2016 10:39:36 am
      I want to see the c**t in the dock Billy grassing up all of his superiors on that tragic day when he gave no thought to anyone but his miserable self.

      Squeeze the lemon till ...........



      Burnham has mentioned the fact that there has been problems making accountable those who had "retired" .

      We'll see Stu  ... we'll see.
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      Reply #171: Apr 27, 2016 11:00:11 am
      Squeeze the lemon till ...........



      Burnham has mentioned the fact that there has been problems making accountable those who had "retired" .

      We'll see Stu  ... we'll see.

      The families have had 27 years of establishment concocted problems mate and confronted them all, the scapegoat that is Duckenfield is not retired from guillt.

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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #172: Apr 27, 2016 12:11:57 pm
      I want to see the c**t in the dock Billy grassing up all of his superiors on that tragic day when he gave no thought to anyone but his miserable self.

      I want them all there and the man or woman who appointed him to a job he wasn't qualified to do. I want all those liars who given the opportunity to tell the truth in this inquest continued to live life as a liar they need to be shown to be who they are LIARS
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      Reply #173: Apr 27, 2016 12:17:22 pm
      I don't intend to be sentimental but Margy should be given the title of "Mother of all Liverpool" she embodies all the wonderful gifts Scouse mums have and we should celebrate them . Sir Trevor hicks sounds right too.
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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #174: Apr 27, 2016 12:59:31 pm
      listening to the Home Secretary there will be a sh*t load of charges being issued from Health and Safety to manslaughter.
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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #175: Apr 27, 2016 01:06:39 pm
      At last.

      Rest in peace, 96. YNWA.
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      Re: Hillsborough inquest - Fans 'unlawfully killed'
      Reply #176: Apr 27, 2016 01:10:57 pm
      Just noticed I've been posting in the wrong thread :D

      https://twitter.com/LuisSuarez9/status/725279926736326656

      Hmm

      Hillsborough disaster: Kelvin MacKenzie apologises for ‘hurt’ caused by The Sun’s 1989 front page

      The headline 'The Truth' carried the accusations Liverpool fans pickpocketed victims and assaulted police officers
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      The former editor of The Sun Kelvin MacKenzie has apologised for the “hurt” he caused when the newspaper ran a headline which accused Liverpool fans of being drunk and abusive during the tragedy.

      Four days after the disaster at the Hillsborough football stadium in Sheffield in April 1989, The Sun ran the headline “The Truth” which accused Liverpool fans of being drunk, pickpocketing victims, urinating on “brave” police and assaulting police officers. Following the headline The Sun was boycotted in Merseyside and many Liverpudlian newsagents refuse to sell it today. In yesterday’s Liverpool Echo coverage online they do not mention the paper fully, putting an asterisk in the middle of its name.

      MacKenzie was editor of the paper at the time and later admitted it was his “decision alone” to run with the front page of which he said the story came from a Sheffield news agency and cited sources including a senior police officer as well as a Conservative MP. It has been claimed fellow journalists warned him against the front page.

      Responding to the decision by a long-running inquiry which found on Tuesday that all 96 victims of the disaster were “unlawfully killed” and Liverpool fans were not to blame for the crush, MacKenzie issued a statement apologising.

      “Today’s verdicts are an important step in obtaining justice for the victims. My heart goes out to those who have waited so long for vindication,” he said.

      “As I have said before, the headline I published was wrong and I am profoundly sorry for the hurt caused. Clearly, I was wrong to take the police’s version of events at face value and it is a mistake I deeply regret.”

      MacKenzie, who still writes for the paper, also told ITV news he “absolutely” agreed with the jury’s verdict. “It’s been an absolute disgrace what the police have done in south Yorkshire this last 27 years, I feel desperate for the families and the people and I also feel that in some strange way I got caught up in it […] everybody got sent this agency story, I printed it in that way but honestly the way it affected those families was a disgrace, I’m delighted for those families.”

      The paper apologised for its reporting of the disaster in 2004 and again in 2012 after the Hillsborough report was released. MacKenzie wrote: “It would have been far more accurate had I written the headline ‘The Lies’ rather than ‘The Truth’.” An editorial in the paper called the 1989 report “the blackest day in this newspaper’s history”.

      MacKenzie was also doorstopped by Channel 4 news in 2012 where he refused to make any further comment on camera saying he’d “already explained how sorry I am”.

      The findings of yesterday’s ruling are notably absent from The Sun’s from page today. The Times, who are also owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp group also failed to put the findings on the front page of its first edition.

      Additional reporting by the Press Association.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/hillsborough-disaster-kelvin-mackenzie-apologises-for-hurt-caused-by-the-sun-s-1989-front-page-a7003031.html

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      Audio: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03sb94b

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      Kenny Dalglish - Establishment closed ranks and tried to run away from the truth over Hillsborough

      21:09, 26 Apr 2016
      Updated  10:50, 27 Apr 2016 
      By Andy Kelly

       
      Reds boss at time of tragedy says inquest verdicts 'total vindication' for families and fans

      Kenny Dalglish said the verdicts handed down in the Hillsborough inquests represented “total vindication” for the grieving families and the Liverpool fans who were present at the game.

      And he accused the Establishment of “running from the truth” after “closing ranks” in the aftermath of the disaster.

      The former Reds boss was a central figure following the tragedy in 1989, comforting families at Anfield and attending the funerals of those who had died with wife Marina.
      The emotional impact of Hillsborough is often cited as one of the factors in Dalglish’s decision to walk away from the Anfield manager’s job in February 1991.

      But in an interview with daughter Kelly Cates for BBC 5 Live, Dalglish was typically keen to place all the attention on the campaigning families and the fans who had tried to help fellow supporters on that fateful day 27 years ago.

      Dalglish said: “For the families... everything they fought for over the last 27 years, they’ve come out and won every argument that’s been put in front of them. They’ve been totally vindicated - the fans and the families have also been totally victorious in everything they put forward.

      “The truth that they knew 27 years ago has just come to pass now and it’s taken them 27 years of their lives to fight for the person who went to watch a football match and lost their life.

      “What these families must have been through - it’s easy to say 27 years, but when you actually have to live it - they have been through some very, very bad days, days when things looked bleak.

      “And they have stayed totally true to their loved ones, they’ve fought the fight and come out triumphant, if that’s the right word.

      "For them it’s a fantastic day, everything they deserved to get they got. They’ve been humble, they’ve had integrity, they’ve gone about getting what they wanted and what they believed to be the truth and what the people from Liverpool and who were there knew to be the truth.

      "(I) just feel so relieved for them and (they’ve been) totally vindicated in every, shape or form.”

      Dalglish also spoke about the impact on the survivors and what they might have been going through in the years that have followed, suggesting many would have been left with undue feelings of guilt.

      Hillsborough victims' families celebrate outside the coroner's court in Warrington on Tuesday

      “Within the fans who survived, what did they have on their minds?" he said. "They had on their mind that maybe people thought they were the ones who had caused the death of people who were fellow Liverpool fans and football fans. For them to have to live with that for 27 years, it must have been soul-destroying for them.

      “Other members of the families and friends who attended that match and were fortunate to survive and come back, they’ve been totally vindicated and anyone who looks towards them and thinks maybe they were to blame or if they’ve got that guilt in their mind that maybe they could have done something more, people accusing them of being drunk and all the rest of it - totally and utterly vindicated.

      “For everyone involved with Liverpool, it’s been a fantastic outcome but it’s horrendous that it has taken 27 years to come to this.”

      Expanding on the efforts of the Liverpool supporters to save their fellow fans, the Scot suggested that more lives could have been saved if the emergency services had given them more help.

      “The only thing we saw the supporters do on the day was to try to help and the help they tried to give if they’d have been given more support from the emergency services then maybe you wouldn’t have been talking about the numbers of 96," added Dalglish.

      “In no way, shape or form was there any violence. That was in an era where there was a lot of crowd trouble, this never felt like that. The people did the very, very best they could to help the people survive.”

      Dalglish suggested guilty parties tried to run away from the truth after the deaths.

      “It becomes a public relations exercise, doesn’t it?" he said. "People who feel guilty go into defence mood and they went into defence.

      "They (the families) were fighting against the Establishment and the Establishment closed ranks, they tried to keep everything away and run away from the truth.

      “Fortunately although it’s been a horrendous amount of time for them to have to wait for it, it’s true that they (the authorities) were not telling the truth and the people who were there - doing their utmost to save lives on the pitch - were telling the truth.

      “It was something that was known widely on Merseyside that our people were telling the truth.”

      Dalglish said the strength and support the families received from around the world of football, particularly on Merseyside whatever club people supported, kept the families going on the bad days.

      He described Liverpool chief executive Peter Robinson’s decision to open up Anfield for those arriving at the stadium in mourning as “a stroke of genius”.

      “I think it’s legendary how the stadium was transformed into a place of solace for the Hillsborough families and somewhere for other fans to come and pay their respects," he added. "It was overwhelming.”

      He said the legacy for the families was the Taylor report which brought in all-seater stadiums and made it safer to go to football matches.

      Dalglish said: “For me I wouldn’t change anything that I did, I just wish I could have done more.”

      •Hillsborough - The Truth is presented by Kelly Cates on BBC 5Live on Wednesday at 7pm

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kenny-dalglish-establishment-closed-ranks-11247519
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      Reply #177: Apr 27, 2016 01:14:37 pm
      I'd like to say I'm pleased at the verdict, but how can you be with 96 people dead and 27 years of hell for the families, some of who will have passed on without seeing justice done?

      The criminal trials should follow quickly and exemplorary sentences given.

      This isn't about rehabilitation, it is about society showing that what happened here is unacceptable, by handing out severe punishments.

      RIP the 96 and I hope their relatives gain some solace for their pain.
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      Reply #178: Apr 27, 2016 01:25:57 pm
      Watching Steve Rotherham giving both barrells in the commons about it being a cover up!! Get in there mate👍
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      Reply #179: Apr 27, 2016 01:29:54 pm
      How Kenny Dalglish's autobiography became a key text in Hillsborough inquests

      Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish's autobiography became a key text in the Hillsborough inquests when the Scot gave evidence

      The former Reds boss spoke about the FA Cup semi-final in 1989 while wearing a suit bearing the Liverpool crest and the '96' badge in the witness box, report the Liverpool Echo.

      Amidst the heartache of the inquests process, Hillsborough Family Support Group chairman Margaret Aspinall said she remembered the day of Mr Dalglish’s evidence because it “gave us a bit of a laugh”.

      John Beggs QC, representing match commanders David Duckenfield, Roger Marshall and Roger Greenwood, had produced a 2011 edition of Mr Dalglish’s autobiography My Liverpool Home as he began asking the Scotsman questions.

      Quoting from a section about the cup final at Wembley in 1986, he said: “I also saw, on TV, Scousers climbing through windows, dropping down ropes and pulling each other up, bunking in to the most famous stadium in the world for the oldest football trophy in the world.”

      He went on: “When Wembley announced the official attendance as 98,000 I just laughed as there must have been at least 110,000 crammed in beneath the Twin Towers.”

      Mr Beggs began to ask Mr Dalglish: “So you, an icon, I am going to suggest a very important role model to young men who support Liverpool, laugh at the fact that they break the law by going in without tickets...”

      He was stopped by Mr Dalglish, who said: “No, I don’t think you’ve read that properly, sorry, if I can interrupt you.”

      He added: “Well, I laughed at the official attendance being announced as 98,000. I didn’t laugh at people trying to get in for free.”

      As Mr Beggs attempted to continue his questioning the former striker began to laugh.

      He told the court: “I’m laughing because I don’t know - you’re the one that used the word ‘icon’, not me, and I’m only a guy, I’m only a normal human being that had a good job and, if other people think something of you, that’s up to them.

      “I don’t think I’m actually judge and jury on how people should behave and shouldn’t behave, so I don’t see what right I would have to say in there that people were wrong.”

      Mr Beggs went on to refer to a report about the 1989 FA Cup Final, between Liverpool and Everton, which formed part of the Taylor Inquiry.

      He was stopped by coroner Sir John Goldring, who questioned how Mr Dalglish could give evidence relating to it, and then interrupted by families’ barrister Michael Mansfield, who raised a concern.

      The coroner sent the jury and witness out of court for legal discussion to take place and when they returned, just over 10 minutes later, Mr Beggs continued his questioning.

      Mr Dalglish said he had no evidence of fans “bunking in” to Wembley for the 1989 final but told the court: “I know that the clamber for tickets at Merseyside was overwhelming because of the occasion and because everyone in Merseyside, whether you were Red or Blue, wanted to show their unity and the support for families who had lost their loved ones at Hillsborough.”

      Mr Beggs began asking questions about Mr Dalglish’s views on the fencing at Heysel, where 39 football fans died in a disaster in 1985.

      As the questions continued, the coroner interrupted: “Where is this going, Mr Beggs?”

      He asked how the jury’s knowledge was being expanded by the line of questioning.

      Mr Beggs told the court: “It is because an icon in British football is making the very point that I have been making throughout these inquests, which is, unless you have robust fencing, you have the sort of disaster that unfolded at Heysel.”

      But Mr Dalglish said: “Excuse me, I don’t think I’m endorsing what he’s saying.”

      He added: “Well, if I am, I don’t wish to.”

      Questioning the footballer about the day of the disaster, Mr Beggs asked if he would agree that if 2,000 to 3,000 fans had turned up late to the match they might have contributed to the disaster.

      But the coroner stopped him from answering.

      He told him: “He cannot answer that question, Mr Beggs, as you perfectly well know.”

      As Mr Beggs continued to make his point, Sir John went on: “Mr Beggs, please don’t argue with me.”

      The jury and Mr Dalglish were sent out a second time for legal discussions to continue.

      Mrs Aspinall said: “I think Beggs had his own agenda but Kenny handled it brilliantly.

      “Kenny’s always been there for the families and he didn’t in any way shape or form let us down.”

      Mary Corrigan, mum of 17-year-old victim Keith McGrath, said: “It’s good to be able to laugh in court.

      “Beggs must have been thinking ‘I’ve got this fella and I’m going to make him look as small as I can’.”

      She added: “I was made up he put Beggs in his place.”

      Barry Devonside, whose 18-year-old son Christopher died in the disaster, said: “When Kenny Dalglish came to give evidence the behaviour of John Beggs I thought was to embarrass Kenny, but he turned it on him.

      “I thought Kenny conducted himself well.”

      Once back in court, after some more questions about his autobiography, Mr Beggs finished his questioning and Rajiv Menon QC, on behalf of some of the families, asked Mr Dalglish to clarify some of the figures Mr Beggs had quoted from his book.

      Answering him, Mr Dalglish said: “if you read the book I said - well, the ghost writer said...”

      Sir John asked him: “You mean it wasn’t you, Mr Dalglish, who wrote it?”

      He replied: “No, no. I’m not intelligent enough.”

      http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/how-kenny-dalglishs-autobiography-became-a-key-text-in-hillsborough-inquests/ar-BBsjyOe?ocid=spartanntp
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      Reply #180: Apr 27, 2016 01:32:33 pm
      There is an article in the Guardian today by David Conn, a very long article and a very tough read. I had to take time to read it, I couldn't read it in one go but it is a very powerful article and will bring you to tears.

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      Reply #181: Apr 27, 2016 01:52:51 pm
      There is an article in the Guardian today by David Conn, a very long article and a very tough read. I had to take time to read it, I couldn't read it in one go but it is a very powerful article and will bring you to tears.



      Yep, put it in here last night. Cracking stuff.
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      Reply #182: Apr 27, 2016 02:01:00 pm
      How Kenny Dalglish's autobiography became a key text in Hillsborough inquests

      Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish's autobiography became a key text in the Hillsborough inquests when the Scot gave evidence

      The former Reds boss spoke about the FA Cup semi-final in 1989 while wearing a suit bearing the Liverpool crest and the '96' badge in the witness box, report the Liverpool Echo.

      Amidst the heartache of the inquests process, Hillsborough Family Support Group chairman Margaret Aspinall said she remembered the day of Mr Dalglish’s evidence because it “gave us a bit of a laugh”.

      John Beggs QC, representing match commanders David Duckenfield, Roger Marshall and Roger Greenwood, had produced a 2011 edition of Mr Dalglish’s autobiography My Liverpool Home as he began asking the Scotsman questions.

      Quoting from a section about the cup final at Wembley in 1986, he said: “I also saw, on TV, Scousers climbing through windows, dropping down ropes and pulling each other up, bunking in to the most famous stadium in the world for the oldest football trophy in the world.”

      He went on: “When Wembley announced the official attendance as 98,000 I just laughed as there must have been at least 110,000 crammed in beneath the Twin Towers.”

      Mr Beggs began to ask Mr Dalglish: “So you, an icon, I am going to suggest a very important role model to young men who support Liverpool, laugh at the fact that they break the law by going in without tickets...”

      He was stopped by Mr Dalglish, who said: “No, I don’t think you’ve read that properly, sorry, if I can interrupt you.”

      He added: “Well, I laughed at the official attendance being announced as 98,000. I didn’t laugh at people trying to get in for free.”

      As Mr Beggs attempted to continue his questioning the former striker began to laugh.

      He told the court: “I’m laughing because I don’t know - you’re the one that used the word ‘icon’, not me, and I’m only a guy, I’m only a normal human being that had a good job and, if other people think something of you, that’s up to them.

      “I don’t think I’m actually judge and jury on how people should behave and shouldn’t behave, so I don’t see what right I would have to say in there that people were wrong.”

      Mr Beggs went on to refer to a report about the 1989 FA Cup Final, between Liverpool and Everton, which formed part of the Taylor Inquiry.

      He was stopped by coroner Sir John Goldring, who questioned how Mr Dalglish could give evidence relating to it, and then interrupted by families’ barrister Michael Mansfield, who raised a concern.

      The coroner sent the jury and witness out of court for legal discussion to take place and when they returned, just over 10 minutes later, Mr Beggs continued his questioning.

      Mr Dalglish said he had no evidence of fans “bunking in” to Wembley for the 1989 final but told the court: “I know that the clamber for tickets at Merseyside was overwhelming because of the occasion and because everyone in Merseyside, whether you were Red or Blue, wanted to show their unity and the support for families who had lost their loved ones at Hillsborough.”

      Mr Beggs began asking questions about Mr Dalglish’s views on the fencing at Heysel, where 39 football fans died in a disaster in 1985.

      As the questions continued, the coroner interrupted: “Where is this going, Mr Beggs?”

      He asked how the jury’s knowledge was being expanded by the line of questioning.

      Mr Beggs told the court: “It is because an icon in British football is making the very point that I have been making throughout these inquests, which is, unless you have robust fencing, you have the sort of disaster that unfolded at Heysel.”

      But Mr Dalglish said: “Excuse me, I don’t think I’m endorsing what he’s saying.”

      He added: “Well, if I am, I don’t wish to.”

      Questioning the footballer about the day of the disaster, Mr Beggs asked if he would agree that if 2,000 to 3,000 fans had turned up late to the match they might have contributed to the disaster.

      But the coroner stopped him from answering.

      He told him: “He cannot answer that question, Mr Beggs, as you perfectly well know.”

      As Mr Beggs continued to make his point, Sir John went on: “Mr Beggs, please don’t argue with me.”

      The jury and Mr Dalglish were sent out a second time for legal discussions to continue.

      Mrs Aspinall said: “I think Beggs had his own agenda but Kenny handled it brilliantly.

      “Kenny’s always been there for the families and he didn’t in any way shape or form let us down.”

      Mary Corrigan, mum of 17-year-old victim Keith McGrath, said: “It’s good to be able to laugh in court.

      “Beggs must have been thinking ‘I’ve got this fella and I’m going to make him look as small as I can’.”

      She added: “I was made up he put Beggs in his place.”

      Barry Devonside, whose 18-year-old son Christopher died in the disaster, said: “When Kenny Dalglish came to give evidence the behaviour of John Beggs I thought was to embarrass Kenny, but he turned it on him.

      “I thought Kenny conducted himself well.”

      Once back in court, after some more questions about his autobiography, Mr Beggs finished his questioning and Rajiv Menon QC, on behalf of some of the families, asked Mr Dalglish to clarify some of the figures Mr Beggs had quoted from his book.

      Answering him, Mr Dalglish said: “if you read the book I said - well, the ghost writer said...”

      Sir John asked him: “You mean it wasn’t you, Mr Dalglish, who wrote it?”

      He replied: “No, no. I’m not intelligent enough.”

      http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/how-kenny-dalglishs-autobiography-became-a-key-text-in-hillsborough-inquests/ar-BBsjyOe?ocid=spartanntp

      Ha ha! Reminds me of how Kenny would deal with the media. Always had them marked even before they spoke!
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      Reply #183: Apr 27, 2016 02:11:11 pm
      Ha ha! Reminds me of how Kenny would deal with the media. Always had them marked even before they spoke!


      he kept them at arms length and he had long arms.

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