Hooliganism at Euro 2016

Have you heard the new tank that the French military have built? It's got 6 gears - 5 to go backwards and 1 to go forward...just in case the enemy attacks from behind.

still makes me laugh when they held the 70 anniversary parade of the liberation of Paris, the British and Americans were reduced to minor roles whilst the French carried on as is they has liberated themselves. As for the England fans there was trouble in Marseilles before the Russians turned up.

still makes me laugh when they held the 70 anniversary parade of the liberation of Paris, the British and Americans were reduced to minor roles whilst the French carried on as is they has liberated themselves. As for the England fans there was trouble in Marseilles before the Russians turned up.

Yes because French locals were  throwing chairs at English fans. The video footage is viral.

Yes because French locals were  throwing chairs at English fans. The video footage is viral.

The English minority just like the French minority and the Russian minority were/are as bad as each other.. None of those lads come out with any credit whatsoever, they are all as bad as each other.

Does it matter who threw the first bottle or chair? None of us know who did, there are hundreds of short videos from different sources showing different things and different angles to it. Are offensive songs that provoke not bad because technically they aren't a bottle or a punch or a kick?

There is an element of dickheads from England, from Russia, from France and in different incidents from Ukraine and Germany who ALL are to blame

The innocent ones or the ones attacked that had nothing to do with it are the victims and there are plenty of them from England, France, Russia, Ukraine and Germany, they are the ones that have had their trips ruined and got dragged into something by mindless thugs from every country involved.

Those English lads were hardly roaming the art galleries and sipping espresso then attacked from nowhere
The minority have ruined it for the rest as always and the English thugs involved have to take as much blame as the rest

There is no moral high ground for any nation here there's just dickheads and then the rest

Plenty got dragged into it but plenty from every nation, what about the locals in France who live in the area? Who own businesses? Who are tidying the mess made by thugs? That have to explain to their kids why their town is a mess? Kids probably woken by the violence? Local kids who went to watch the France game in restaurants affected by tear gas that had to go home and lock themselves away in their homes? There is no defence of these thugs no matter where they come from, I just feel for all innocent people caught up in it wherever they come from

This was caused by a minority but a minority from everywhere who can't handle their ale and think they can take on the world but just ruin it for everyone else

The English minority just like the French minority and the Russian minority were/are as bad as each other.. None of those lads come out with any credit whatsoever, they are all as bad as each other.

Does it matter who threw the first bottle or chair? None of us know who did, there are hundreds of short videos from different sources showing different things and different angles to it. Are offensive songs that provoke not bad because technically they aren't a bottle or a punch or a kick?

Probably the most fair summary.

I believe England's hooligan element is far smaller than it was back in the 80s/90s but it is still there.  And it doesn't take many of us to imagine how 'lads' who have had too much to drink can get involved alongside the more determined hooligans.  So you may have stone cold sober French thugs, and sober Russian thugs and even the hardcore sober English hooligans. 

The problem England have is that there always seems an endless supply of potential recruits with 10 pints inside them who subconsciously want to get involved (and are usually the ones looking like Terry Butcher at the end).

Hope tomorrow and Thursday pass off peacefully because on this one I don't think UEFA are actually bullshitting.

Probably the most fair summary.

I believe England's hooligan element is far smaller than it was back in the 80s/90s but it is still there.  And it doesn't take many of us to imagine how 'lads' who have had too much to drink can get involved alongside the more determined hooligans.  So you may have stone cold sober French thugs, and sober Russian thugs and even the hardcore sober English hooligans. 

The problem England have is that there always seems an endless supply of potential recruits with 10 pints inside them who subconsciously want to get involved (and are usually the ones looking like Terry Butcher at the end).

Hope tomorrow and Thursday pass off peacefully because on this one I don't think UEFA are actually bullshitting.

Bang on, the lad in tears yesterday in court saying he isn't like this.. Maybe he isn't at home I don't know but got pissed and was involved, probably thought he was tough in a crowd with loads of ale down him and started throwing bottles at people..

You're spot on when you say these hardcore lads from Russia and France then come along stone cold sober, hard as nails and it's easy pickings for them.. But are they more in the wrong than the English lads who we have some just like those ones who actually go looking for it? Or the ones who think they turn into warriors when they have a skin full?

As for actually selling ale in glass bottles etc, the organisation has been rubbish, the heavy handed approach by the French riot police is too much, even if you have little sympathy for the yob element why they havent thought of the rest let alone their own local public who have no interest in what is going on at all is to be honest ill advised at best.

To be honest I hope that UEFA are serious and if there is more trouble Wednesday/Thursday as there very well could be as the English, Welsh, Russian and Slovaks will be falling over each other in Lille after the Russia game and before the England/Wales one.. Then they should go through with their threats or there will be no deterrent..  As long as they ensure that all the fans are deported too

My old fella and Grandad used to tell me stories of going the game in the late 70s-80s and it was a threat, but those days should have passed now and those people who have gone to watch the tournament and the local people should not have to be part of this

Some of the footage shown like that fella who was kicked in the head, if they find those two they should be doing far longer than a couple of months in jail.. That could have killed that bloke and they should take responsibility for that, it's not big and hard, it's simply thugarry

6 England fans given prison sentences ranging from 1 to 3 months in length.  Banned from re-entering France for 2 years.

thought we had open borders?. they should have their passports removed for life.

English hooligans are banned from entering France for 2 years (rightfully so) but the Russians magically don't get caught and murderers are allowed to enter the UK whenever they like. Seems legit!

Edit: Just read that some Russian fans are being deported from France for fighting. How come they weren't arrested and sentenced?

Edit: Just read that some Russian fans are being deported from France for fighting. How come they weren't arrested and sentenced?

English fans who have been sentenced and jailed were attacking the police.

Fans caught fighting with each other are being deported.

Russia have been handed a suspended disqualification by UEFA.  If they misbehave now they're out.

Let's see if they do the same for the England team.

How are the French not being warned with disqualification for their ultras?

Reports coming out that the Welsh FA warned the French about Russians over a week ago and yet Lille is still looking like it will turn into a mess. I believe if Russia get beat tomorrow, they are out anyway so will not care about being kicked out. This is putting fans lives in danger. I am hoping Russia and Slovakia draw to atleast give it some calm.

Russia have been handed a suspended disqualification by UEFA.  If they misbehave now they're out.

Let's see if they do the same for the England team.

What has changed? They already warned Russia and England even though England did nothing in the stadium. This is UEFA. It is probably like Barcelona's suspended transfer ban.

What has changed? They already warned Russia and England even though England did nothing in the stadium. This is UEFA. It is probably like Barcelona's suspended transfer ban.

This isn't a warning, this is now a decision.

It does seem typical of UEFA contradicting themselves though.  On one hand they say they aren't responsible for, nor can they do anything about the violence outside of the stadiums yet they use that violence as a reason to throw England out of the tournament if it continues 

It seems that the French Police have finally woken up to the threat of violence though, especially from the Russians so let's hope our fans are properly protected in the coming days.

This isn't a warning, this is now a decision.

It does seem typical of UEFA contradicting themselves though.  On one hand they say they aren't responsible for, nor can they do anything about the violence outside of the stadiums yet they use that violence as a reason to throw England out of the tournament if it continues 

It seems that the French Police have finally woken up to the threat of violence though, especially from the Russians so let's hope our fans are properly protected in the coming days.

I think they should use an army presence in Lille. I think the way the Police has handled it doesn't fill me with much confidence.  Innocent people being caught up in tear gas, Ignoring the pre warnings about Russian gangs entering and letting them all get away, not separating the fans in the crowd. The French that attacked English fans are getting away with it. Just another way to remind me how unorganized and the bias Europe at times. English have been unfairly threatened if that is the punishment Russia got. Not a good way to treat English before the referendum. I don't see German or Ukraine getting threatened. There fans rioted and media weren't interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/euro2016/article-3637887/Two-fans-injured-fighting-Euro-2016-match-Germany-Ukraine-Lille.html

German authorities reported that 150 hooligans were in the French town

maybe UEFA cannot do anything since it is not in the stadium. 

Hearing that there is a lot of Combat 18 amongst the England supports.... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfsZCfbp7H8

This should have happened a south American country or Jamaica, somewhere where the Police and Army would have gone in busting head and knocking out teeth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0tYJZJQglE

Note the woman in the second half of the video in the orange dress and with the French flag

Russian MP To Euro Hooligans: 'Well Done Lads'

A Russian MP and executive member of the country's football union has praised Russian hooligans at the European Championships, saying they should "keep it up".

Igor Lebedev posted on Twitter: "I don't see anything wrong with the fans fighting. Quite the opposite, well done lads, keep it up!"

Russian thugs were involved in violent clashes with England fans in the streets of Marseille ahead of their match on Saturday and charged at supporters in the stands after the match.

:: England Fans Jailed Over Violence

French authorities have admitted around 150 "hyper violent" Russian hooligans escaped arrest after the incident.

But Mr Lebedev, from the ultra-nationalist Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, blamed French authorities in another tweet, suggesting police had an "inability to organise such events."

He also claimed Russia's sports minister, Vitaly Mutko, would have enjoyed taking part in the clashes, in a separate interview with website Life.ru.

"He would also go and fight the English fans since they were the ones who started it," Mr Lebedev said.

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He said some Russian fans had been turned back when they arrived at Marseille airport, but others had arrived overland.

Six Britons have been jailed in France after facing charges of violence involving a weapon.

England supporters have said Russians were behind most of the violence.

One fan, George Amos, said 300 uniformed Russians "looking like the black death squad" had attacked him and his brother, wearing gumshields and MMA (mixed martial arts) gloves.

A 50-year-old England supporter in a "critical but stable" condition in hospital with severe brain injuries has been named as Andrew Bache.


 

No. The backhanders have already been spent.

Hears a thought, Maybe all countries should get together and refuse to take part in the 2018 World Cup ,and in stead hold a separate alternative tournament in the US, Canada, South America, or Australia somewhere where it would be easy to stop any Russian Hooligans attending   

Don't be too sure, nationalist Ukranians hate Russians and vice-versa. There'd be F***ing murder if those two meet.

Let the F***ing head the balls kick the living sh*t arrov each other - insult to animals if they were labelled as such.

Hope tomorrow and Thursday pass off peacefully because on this one I don't think UEFA are actually bullshitting.

UEFA can threaten the FA with the ultimate punishment, until they bring accountants into the discussion.

Their fans haven't been unfairly treated though imo. They've caused enough trouble up, down, and across Europe for decades at club and international level, and in this case also. The prison sentences they've got are also fair. But maybe the mere threat of expulsion will get them to finally behave themselves like most other nations fans manage to do.

Russia have been given a "suspended disqualification" by UEFA!?!?
What the F**k is that about?

Those murderous cu*ts who call themselves supporters of the Russian national side want suspending until they F***ing choke.

So they materialise out of nowhere when Russia plays international tournaments?
Do they F**k.
Until they get their house in order they should be banned immediately from all games beyond the sporting Iron Curtain that remains between Russia and the civilised world.

The SNP getting in on the debate (as ever even though no one invited them or wanted their opinion) and showing that their anti Englishness is never too far away with Joanna Cherry QC (a lady of the bar, hilarious I know). Despite the hooliganism at the end of the Scottish Cup Final, the SNP continue to believe that Scots are a morally pure and loving bunch of people. Anyone who has lived in and experienced Scottish club football will also quickly come to realise the grim anti sectarian element that dictates the rivalry between Rangers and Celtic. English football has its rivalries - Man Utd and Liverpool most obvious - but such rivalry has always been conducted on football matters, never religious and never upholding and promoting social divisions within society on the background of religion alone. England doesn't have that problem, Scotland does.

Her comments are ignorant and offensive to say the least.

An SNP MP has been criticised after saying football hooliganism is only a problem in England, and that fans from Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland “know how to behave themselves”.

Joanna Cherry, the MP for Edinburgh South West, made her point during an urgent question in the House of Commons about the violence that erupted between English and Russian fans over the weekend at the European Championship in France.
To jeers from the other benches, Cherry said Scotland had solved its football hooliganism problem in the 1970s, even though last month the Scottish Cup Final between Hibs and Rangers was marred by violence during a large-scale pitch invasion.

“Does the home secretary agree that we must also address the appalling behavior of some of the English fans?” asked Cherry in the Commons. “In the 1970s we had a serious problem with football hooliganism in Scotland – we managed to address it, and now the Tartan Army wins awards for their good behaviour and their charitable work.
“Scotland may not have a world-class football team yet, but we do have world-class fans who know how to behave themselves as, it appears, do the Welsh and the Northern Irish. My point, Mr Speaker, is that the problem of reoccurring football hooliganism is not unsolvable.

“But what’s most worrying about it is that there’s an undercurrent of racism to this football hooliganism, and if it’s allowed to continue unchecked then English fans won’t be welcome abroad.”

Cherry was immediately criticised by home secretary Theresa May for the tone of her comments – May told the SNP MP that football hooliganism can erupt among any group of fans – not just English ones.
“I have to say to the honourable and learned lady that I think the tone of the remarks that she’s made was somewhat unfortunate,” said May. “Yes, there were England supporters who were involved in this violence and … those people will be considering for banning orders when they return to the United Kingdom.”

She added: “Football hooliganism can erupt anywhere with any group of fans. We have experience here in the UK of dealing with football hooliganism in the past and we have arrangements in place which do work well.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/football-hooliganism-is-only-a-problem-in-england-says-snp-m?utm_term=.jvao5bbLJ#.aqGk400Nn

The SNP getting in on the debate (as ever even though no one invited them or wanted their opinion) and showing that their anti Englishness is never too far away. Despite the hooliganism at the end of the Scottish Cup Final, the SNP continue to believe that Scots are a morally pure and loving bunch of people. Cu*ts the lot of them.

An SNP MP has been criticised after saying football hooliganism is only a problem in England, and that fans from Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland “know how to behave themselves”.

Joanna Cherry, the MP for Edinburgh South West, made her point during an urgent question in the House of Commons about the violence that erupted between English and Russian fans over the weekend at the European Championship in France.
To jeers from the other benches, Cherry said Scotland had solved its football hooliganism problem in the 1970s, even though last month the Scottish Cup Final between Hibs and Rangers was marred by violence during a large-scale pitch invasion.

“Does the home secretary agree that we must also address the appalling behavior of some of the English fans?” asked Cherry in the Commons. “In the 1970s we had a serious problem with football hooliganism in Scotland – we managed to address it, and now the Tartan Army wins awards for their good behaviour and their charitable work.
“Scotland may not have a world-class football team yet, but we do have world-class fans who know how to behave themselves as, it appears, do the Welsh and the Northern Irish. My point, Mr Speaker, is that the problem of reoccurring football hooliganism is not unsolvable.

“But what’s most worrying about it is that there’s an undercurrent of racism to this football hooliganism, and if it’s allowed to continue unchecked then English fans won’t be welcome abroad.”

Cherry was immediately criticised by home secretary Theresa May for the tone of her comments – May told the SNP MP that football hooliganism can erupt among any group of fans – not just English ones.
“I have to say to the honourable and learned lady that I think the tone of the remarks that she’s made was somewhat unfortunate,” said May. “Yes, there were England supporters who were involved in this violence and … those people will be considering for banning orders when they return to the United Kingdom.”

She added: “Football hooliganism can erupt anywhere with any group of fans. We have experience here in the UK of dealing with football hooliganism in the past and we have arrangements in place which do work well.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/football-hooliganism-is-only-a-problem-in-england-says-snp-m?utm_term=.jvao5bbLJ#.aqGk400Nn

Ahh now I know who Magnamillionaire is.

The SNP getting in on the debate (as ever even though no one invited them or wanted their opinion) and showing that their anti Englishness is never too far away with Joanna Cherry QC (a lady of the bar, hilarious I know). Despite the hooliganism at the end of the Scottish Cup Final, the SNP continue to believe that Scots are a morally pure and loving bunch of people. Anyone who has lived in and experienced Scottish club football will also quickly come to realise the grim anti sectarian element that dictates the rivalry between Rangers and Celtic. English football has its rivalries - Man Utd and Liverpool most obvious - but such rivalry has always been conducted on football matters, never religious and never upholding and promoting social divisions within society on the background of religion alone. England doesn't have that problem, Scotland does.

Her comments are ignorant and offensive to say the least.

An SNP MP has been criticised after saying football hooliganism is only a problem in England, and that fans from Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland “know how to behave themselves”.

Joanna Cherry, the MP for Edinburgh South West, made her point during an urgent question in the House of Commons about the violence that erupted between English and Russian fans over the weekend at the European Championship in France.
To jeers from the other benches, Cherry said Scotland had solved its football hooliganism problem in the 1970s, even though last month the Scottish Cup Final between Hibs and Rangers was marred by violence during a large-scale pitch invasion.

“Does the home secretary agree that we must also address the appalling behavior of some of the English fans?” asked Cherry in the Commons. “In the 1970s we had a serious problem with football hooliganism in Scotland – we managed to address it, and now the Tartan Army wins awards for their good behaviour and their charitable work.
“Scotland may not have a world-class football team yet, but we do have world-class fans who know how to behave themselves as, it appears, do the Welsh and the Northern Irish. My point, Mr Speaker, is that the problem of reoccurring football hooliganism is not unsolvable.

“But what’s most worrying about it is that there’s an undercurrent of racism to this football hooliganism, and if it’s allowed to continue unchecked then English fans won’t be welcome abroad.”

Cherry was immediately criticised by home secretary Theresa May for the tone of her comments – May told the SNP MP that football hooliganism can erupt among any group of fans – not just English ones.
“I have to say to the honourable and learned lady that I think the tone of the remarks that she’s made was somewhat unfortunate,” said May. “Yes, there were England supporters who were involved in this violence and … those people will be considering for banning orders when they return to the United Kingdom.”

She added: “Football hooliganism can erupt anywhere with any group of fans. We have experience here in the UK of dealing with football hooliganism in the past and we have arrangements in place which do work well.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/football-hooliganism-is-only-a-problem-in-england-says-snp-m?utm_term=.jvao5bbLJ#.aqGk400Nn

Take it she didn't watch the Scottish cup final this year then! 

Russia have been given a "suspended disqualification" by UEFA!?!?
What the f**k is that about?

Those murderous cu*ts who call themselves supporters of the Russian national side want suspending until they f**king choke.

So they materialise out of nowhere when Russia plays international tournaments?
Do they f**k.
Until they get their house in order they should be banned immediately from all games beyond the sporting Iron Curtain that remains between Russia and the civilised world.

Wonder what UEFA will do now as it is reported that English fans are under attack now in Lille....

I reckon a good telling off with a "go to your room!" will be dished out..