Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)

At today's prices 25 million would be a good buy. Solid squad/performer and could make a lot worse buys. at this money.

Exactly. The market is what it is, and in this market that's about right for Oxlade. You seem like a pretty seasonable dude, so why pull for United? You seem smarter than that 

There is a lot of football to be played this year so there will be time for everyone. Last year we were thin and that was in a year without to much extra football. We got tired and hurt and lack of depth showed in Jan & Feb. This year with champions league and other tourneys we need quality guys who can play FA and lower league games to give rest to other players. With his versatility I like the idea. If you don't like his price than you don't like the market. If we want 15 for Moreno than Ox is certainly worth 25. That's just the market man. Besides, now that he has turned down Arsenal I think we may get him for the less. We hold the hill

We've also suffered from a lack of quality in depth in recent years. That at least now seems to be changing under Klopp with genuine talent competing for places. Having Ox competing with Keita, Coutinho, Lallana, Wijnaldum, Can and Henderson for midfield spots could only be a good thing. Given the inflated market this Summer, £25 million seems like a steel for him.

Exactly. The market is what it is, and in this market that's about right for Oxlade. You seem like a pretty seasonable dude, so why pull for United? You seem smarter than that 

Born & breed in Salford so that may have something to do with it.  However, first match I ever went to was when my eldest brother took me to Maine Rd when City were home to Leeds. He tried to convert me, as you can see he wasn't very successful 

We've also suffered from a lack of quality in depth in recent years. That at least now seems to be changing under Klopp with genuine talent competing for places. Having Ox competing with Keita, Coutinho, Lallana, Wijnaldum, Can and Henderson for midfield spots could only be a good thing. Given the inflated market this Summer, £25 million seems like a steel for him.

Agreed, and with Lallana's contract extension coming up I can think of no better time than to see what the market says about him. Strike while the iron is hot. Ox can play multiple positions for now and can fill an even bigger need in the coming years.

Born & breed in Salford so that may have something to do with it.  However, first match I ever went to was when my eldest brother took me to Maine Rd when City were home to Leeds. He tried to convert me, as you can see he wasn't very successful 

I'm American so I have no clue where Salford is It's good to meet u, and I look forward to slinging jabs your way in the coming months. I would say good luck, but you know I wouldn't mean it. Cheers!

I'm American so I have no clue where Salford is It's good to meet u, and I look forward to slinging jabs your way in the coming months. I would say good luck, but you know I wouldn't mean it. Cheers!

Salford is 5 mins from the ground depending what part of Salford your from    Better get back on subject now as sometimes mods pull members for going off topic. You were saying about Chamberlin 

He is young and brings pace. I like the deal for the right price. Having speed on your side can cause all sorts of problems. Not to mention with more games this season, quality depth is important.

Salford is 5 mins from the ground depending what part of Salford your from    Better get back on subject now as sometimes mods pull members for going off topic. You were saying about Chamberlin 

You sure Salford is 5 minutes from the ground Keith? Most Man Utd fans have Essex accents don't they??!

You sure Salford is 5 minutes from the ground Keith? Most Man Utd fans have Essex accents don't they??!

Off topic   

There is a lot of football to be played this year so there will be time for everyone. Last year we were thin and that was in a year without to much extra football. We got tired and hurt and lack of depth showed in Jan & Feb. This year with champions league and other tourneys we need quality guys who can play FA and lower league games to give rest to other players. With his versatility I like the idea. If you don't like his price than you don't like the market. If we want 15 for Moreno than Ox is certainly worth 25. That's just the market man. Besides, now that he has turned down Arsenal I think we may get him for the less. We hold the hill

Our transfer committee has a proven bad habit of over haggling the price to the point of not buying anyone until the last minute panic buy. Overpaid say 5 mil better than overpaying say 15 mil for an unproven player in the PL.

Our transfer committee has a proven bad habit of over haggling the price to the point of not buying anyone until the last minute panic buy. Overpaid say 5 mil better than overpaying say 15 mil for an unproven player in the PL.

If anyone had a job record as bad as the TC they'd have been sacked yesterday.
Another conundrum in the FSG puzzle.

I'm with the minority. He's most probably worth 20 mil. But,

He's young and can only get better :  Add 5 mil
He has experience playing in the PL  :  Add 5 mil
He dares to take on defenders and fast :  Add 5 mil
He can make some nice crosses  :  Add 5 mil

Total  :  40 mil

If Arsenal offers to sell at 30 mil, get the deal done and stop haggling.

If we dallied, someone comes round and offered what Arsenal is asking, we're back to buying overpriced and unproven PL striker.

Diouf has PL experience, does that mean he was worth 5m more than a player who didn't? I guess we better ask Keitas agent to knock 5m off then.....and if you are doing money for attributes you need to add the weaknesses.

His goal stats are terrible -5m
He has done little meaningful in most the games he played -5m
Doesn't win the ball off others much -5m

30m is not a bargain. 25m should be an absolute maximum for him, but I don't see a point in getting him.

If anyone had a job record as bad as the TC they'd have been sacked yesterday.
Another conundrum in the FSG puzzle.

Agreed but we all sit back

If anyone had a job record as bad as the TC they'd have been sacked yesterday.
Another conundrum in the FSG puzzle.

I'm beginning to wonder, has any one or more of the transfer committee members been professional footballers before? Otherwise, things couldn't be that bad, can it? I suspect they are a bunch of sweet talkers, that''s all. Saying the right thing that the boss wants and likes to hear instead of getting the fecking job done properly. I'm growing frustrated, really frustrated.

I'm beginning to wonder, has any one or more of the transfer committee members been professional footballers before? Otherwise, things couldn't be that bad, can it? I suspect they are a bunch of sweet talkers, that''s all. Saying the right thing that the boss wants and likes to hear instead of getting the fecking job done properly. I'm growing frustrated, really frustrated.

Most are FSG appointments mate, that makes things a lot clearer.

Horrible injury history.

13/14  34 games missed
14/15  19 games missed
15/16  19 games missed
16/17   5 games missed

I would look elsewhere. Don't want him

Horrible injury history.

13/14  34 games missed
14/15  19 games missed
15/16  19 games missed
16/17   5 games missed

I would look elsewhere. Don't want him

I honestly don't want him either, but at this point, if he's a target for the boss...why haven't we sealed the deal? It's obvious he doesn't want to stay at Arsenal as he's rejected any new deal.

Cant remember who mentioned it, but if the intention is to play him at wingback ahead of Milly/Clyne and offer backup to Mane/Salah, then it seems a decent move.  Could honestly see him being boss as a wingback....

I honestly don't want him either, but at this point, if he's a target for the boss...why haven't we sealed the deal? It's obvious he doesn't want to stay at Arsenal as he's rejected any new deal.

Because in my opinion our TC is inept and FSG are cheap. More concerned with the Red Sox.   They already screwed up the VVD situation. And thats just this window. Last summer we had a negative net spend. Its truly amazing Klopp got us in the CL with such a thin squad.
 

Last summer we had a negative net spend

As much as people go on about this, and I understand why, but we still managed to bring in Mane for £36mill and have him up there with the best of the leagues signings. Along with Gini for £25mill who more than played his part in getting us back into the Champions League. Matip was free but if he wasn't out of contract we'd have paid £20mill+ for him, yet he's been our best defender compared to the last 40, 50mill we've spent on defenders. I don't care if we have negative net spend, I just want us to sign players who have significant impacts and make us better. Don't want us spunking a load of money just so we can say we didn't have negative net spend because if we did this and the signings were more Markovic than Mane in terms of impacts then all hell would break lose and people would kick off at us wasting a load of money. Kind of get the feeling people want us to spend money for the wrong reasons and to just look as though we are up there with the likes of City when it comes to flexing financial muscle.

Klopp knows more about togger than I ever will. If he wants Oxlade Chamberlain, we should go out and get him.

It's that simple for me.

Klopp knows more about togger than I ever will. If he wants Oxlade Chamberlain, we should go out and get him.

It's that simple for me.

Boom. Well said. For sure guys can miss on players or perhaps their judgement can be skewed from time to time. However, Klopp has already done wonders for us in the short time here and if anyone deserves our trust it's him. There's a lot to like about Ox anyway. Talented, versatile, strong, fast, etc. If his injuries are behind him he will provide tremendous talent and depth to the club. Lot of football to be played here in the next 5 + years (see what I did there?)

Boom. Well said. For sure guys can miss on players or perhaps their judgement can be skewed from time to time. However, Klopp has already done wonders for us in the short time here and if anyone deserves our trust it's him. There's a lot to like about Ox anyway. Talented, versatile, strong, fast, etc. If his injuries are behind him he will provide tremendous talent and depth to the club. Lot of football to be played here in the next 5 + years (see what I did there?)

Talented? Average at best
Fast? Yes
Strong? Not as strong as his build suggests
Versatile? Give you that, does a good job of playing bad in a variety of positions
Absolute tosser? Yes