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      Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)

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      stuey
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      Reply #1680: Aug 05, 2017 11:11:21 am
      Mate, I've said this before but it was lost in the white noise of mocking apologists.

      The reason VvD's "preference" was leaked and the reason there has been no open transfer request are (IMO) one and the same. A sad and cynical attempt to get him cheaper. 😏

      Think about it: on the open market, a VvD (or any player) who's for sale, will cost the winning bidder more than if he only wants to go to one club. 😉

      That cynical attempt, to do Southampton of a fair pay day, is the real reason our, once proud, club were made crawl.

      The thing is tho, the whole seedy affair has and will cost us more [on many levels] than if we had just went about the business in an open and honest manor.

      This all f**king day.

      The same sentiments have been voiced for 7+ years, the same procedures mentioned have prevailed for 7+ years under various managers with varying degrees of mediocrity.

      The only common factor in the 7+ years of relative failure is JWH&Co, FSG, NESV call them what you will - they all equate to failure.
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      Reply #1681: Aug 05, 2017 11:15:43 am
      Dirty Dicks don't always have the best relationships with Dijks

      The dutch usually just stick their fingers in dijks
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      Reply #1682: Aug 05, 2017 11:24:53 am
      The dutch usually just stick their fingers in dijks

      As do lesbicans.
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      Reply #1683: Aug 05, 2017 12:10:35 pm
      Mate, I've said this before but it was lost in the white noise of mocking apologists.

      The reason VvD's "preference" was leaked and the reason there has been no open transfer request are (IMO) one and the same. A sad and cynical attempt to get him cheaper. 😏

      Think about it: on the open market, a VvD (or any player) who's for sale, will cost the winning bidder more than if he only wants to go to one club. 😉

      That cynical attempt, to do Southampton of a fair pay day, is the real reason our, once proud, club were made crawl.

      The thing is tho, the whole seedy affair has and will cost us more [on many levels] than if we had just went about the business in an open and honest manor.

      Yeah, kinda like how Madrid did with Kroos.  Or Barca with Suarez.  Or Munich with Lewandowski.  Etc,  etc, etc.  Every big club tries to flex their muscle in this way -- Southampton (perhaps rightfully so) got butthurt and kicked up a fuss.  The way we conducted our business ain't far out of line for the norm though....
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      Reply #1684: Aug 05, 2017 12:26:23 pm
      Why did we apologise  in first place?

      Not sure why, since every club seem to be doing it.

      Funny thing is that according to some Barcelona have already agreed terms with Coutinho, and did it before submitting a bid,  yet I don't see them apologizing or Liverpool demanding one for tapping up a player. 
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      Reply #1685: Aug 05, 2017 12:58:33 pm
      Not sure why, since every club seem to be doing it.

      Funny thing is that according to some Barcelona have already agreed terms with Coutinho, and did it before submitting a bid,  yet I don't see them apologizing or Liverpool demanding one for tapping up a player. 

      I thought the apology was incredibly embarrassing.

      The only reason could be because they had evidence of Klopps meeting with VVD in Blackpool without their permission and were going to expose it and complain to the FA. How they found out about this meeting (if it took place) I have no idea.
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      Reply #1686: Aug 05, 2017 03:35:11 pm
      Not sure why, since every club seem to be doing it.

      Funny thing is that according to some Barcelona have already agreed terms with Coutinho, and did it before submitting a bid,  yet I don't see them apologizing or Liverpool demanding one for tapping up a player. 
      IMO, it should be no problem if clubs contact/agree terms with player through player's agent. But I could be wrong.

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      Reply #1687: Aug 05, 2017 03:43:55 pm
      I thought the apology was incredibly embarrassing.

      The only reason could be because they had evidence of Klopps meeting with VVD in Blackpool without their permission and were going to expose it and complain to the FA. How they found out about this meeting (if it took place) I have no idea.

      If Southampton had any evidence it would surely have been outed before any apology was forthcoming, the supposed evidence of the supposed rendezvous would supposedly incur a huge supposed fine from the FA.
      That is akin to wishing you had shedloads of dosh and reporting the fictional robbery of a local bank to the police to accommodate your wishful thinking.  No doubt you would get done for wasting police time! 

      Like to see JWH&Co get done for wasting our f**king time.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #1688: Aug 05, 2017 04:18:59 pm
      Just reckon that our Southampton clubcard expired, and we didn't have any money off vouchers left
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      Reply #1689: Aug 05, 2017 08:38:09 pm
      The hypocrisies and things that don't make sense is because 95% of this info on Phil and this apparent transfer was media fabrication. 

      Asking why Barca never got problems for tapping up for example is futile when we know f**k all..
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #1690: Aug 06, 2017 02:01:24 am
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      Reply #1691: Aug 06, 2017 02:37:22 am
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      Reply #1692: Aug 06, 2017 09:48:28 am
      Looking more and more likely that this not going to happen. In fact there are reports that Jürgen hinted yesterday that our transfer business is done!
      Is this another 'we'll go with what we've got' scenario.
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      Reply #1693: Aug 06, 2017 10:56:12 am
      Just reckon that our Southampton clubcard expired, and we didn't have any money off vouchers left

      Not sure we've ever used money off vouchers with Southampton. I works say that they're one of the few clubs we didn't try to low ball.
      The initial quote of around £50 million would've made FSG spit their cornflakes out, now that the fee would be around £70 million means that there is no chance (IMO) of this happening without players being included in the deal.
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #1694: Aug 06, 2017 11:39:22 pm
      Klopp on our CB situation

      “Look out there and tell me five that would make us stronger. Five. Then you win a prize. It’s difficult how it is,” said Klopp.

      “We have four. I don’t think we need more. In the moment I’m fine. We are open until August 31. We cannot force the things and we would never get a centre back just because (of the sake of it).


      :lmao:
      :lmao:

      I sure as hell hope something's lost in translation.
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      Reply #1695: Aug 06, 2017 11:50:48 pm
      Klopp on our CB situation

      “Look out there and tell me five that would make us stronger. Five. Then you win a prize. It’s difficult how it is,” said Klopp.

      “We have four. I don’t think we need more. In the moment I’m fine. We are open until August 31. We cannot force the things and we would never get a centre back just because (of the sake of it).


      :lmao:
      :lmao:

      I sure as hell hope something's lost in translation.

      ;D so we basically conceded so many goals last season just because we were feeling generous?
       :lmao:
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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #1696: Aug 06, 2017 11:57:01 pm
      ;D so we basically conceded so many goals last season just because we were feeling generous?
       :lmao:

      :D

      I personally think the blame lay more with our full-backs and central midfielders than was given to them but I can't agree with Jürgen there either. Perhaps he means find 5 that we can actually buy, because if he doesn't then if we're comparing all CBs to our 4 then I could name him 5+ pretty quickly.

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      Reply #1697: Aug 06, 2017 11:59:11 pm
      Do you really think following tapping up storm and apology he's going to say 'Yeh, I really want VVD, were just waiting for him to erode his relationship with his clubs heirachy or he puts in a transfer request before we bid' ?

      I swear if some of you have brains you turn them off before posting.
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      Reply #1698: Aug 07, 2017 12:01:35 am
      . We are open until August 31. We cannot force the things and we would never get a centre back just because (of the sake of it).

      The most telling part of that, its VVD or no one.
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      Reply #1699: Aug 07, 2017 12:06:07 am
      :D

      I personally think the blame lay more with our full-backs and central midfielders than was given to them but I can't agree with Jürgen there either. Perhaps he means find 5 that we can actually buy, because if he doesn't then if we're comparing all CBs to our 4 then I could name him 5+ pretty quickly.

      That makes a lot more sense then, since we have strengthened those 2 positions with the signings of Moreno 2.0 and Milner.
       :laugh:
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      Reply #1700: Aug 07, 2017 12:14:08 am
      Do you really think following tapping up storm and apology he's going to say 'Yeh, I really want VVD, were just waiting for him to erode his relationship with his clubs heirachy or he puts in a transfer request before we bid' ?

      I swear if some of you have brains you turn them off before posting.

      Or he could have just kept quiet and not come out with stuff life "I don’t see it (the defence) as a concern." Come on, if that was Brendan he would have been crucified right away.

      If anything, his recent statements just showed that he's getting increasingly less confident about the prospect of further signings.
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      Reply #1701: Aug 07, 2017 01:01:53 am
      The most telling part of that, its VVD or no one.

      Yep, and I'm not in agreement with him there. I find it hard to believe there isn't someone else out there that while maybe not as good as VVD, would still be an upgrade on what we have.

      I love Jürgen, but sometimes I sure hope that his meanings are lost in translation because otherwise he says some strange things.
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      Reply #1702: Aug 07, 2017 01:05:44 am
      If were done buying and likely to sell Coutinho then we are a f**king joke no better then swansea newcastle stoke or west ham.

      I dont mind having a crack with a squad where outside your best 15 your down to kids but dont give it large in the summer about were in for xy and z and getting none.

      We bought a very good player at a very good price in Robertson and Solanke could be deal of the year. Salah is looking like a brilliant signing..but..we ciuld have had him for 21 million less 3 years go. Dont tell me that klopp knows we need a centre half badly but put all eggs in the VVD basket  and ditto Keita and midfield.

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      Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Southampton)
      Reply #1703: Aug 07, 2017 01:14:00 am
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      Reply #1704: Aug 07, 2017 01:23:50 am
      Whats the prize Klopp, I will name 10.
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      Reply #1705: Aug 07, 2017 02:06:17 am
      Where have I heard all this before??
      http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2017/08/liverpool-fc-news-latest-update-virgil-van-dijk-reports/
      Liverpool are set to complete a deal to sign Southampton defender Virgil van Dijk this summer, according to Reds insider Graeme Kelly.

      The Merseyside outfit have been heavily linked with a move to bring the 26-year-old centre-half to Anfield for much of the summer but a deal has thus far failed to materialise.

      Liverpool suffered public embarrassment back in June when they were forced to issue a statement apologising for their conduct after Southampton accused the Reds of an alleged illegal approach.

      However, despite the Reds saying that they had ended their interest in the player, Liverpool continue to be linked with a move to sign the defender, who is thought to be keen on a move away from St Mary’s this summer.

      And Kelly says he has been told that a move for Van Dijk is still set to happen for Liverpool this summer.

      Kelly told podcast Code Red, as quoted by the Daily Express: “I’m being told it’ll definitely still happen. It’s about Southampton getting their ducks in a row and it looks like they’re doing that with the kid from Lazio.

      “There should be movement on that at some point this week.

      “Southampton haven’t come out and gone to town on us. When they got the new manager, it was like backhanded conversations they were having.

      “With Southampton, they were well up for a deal. Everyone goes on about [meeting him in] Blackpool and things like that.

      “We had permission to speak to Van Dijk in Blackpool. There were things we didn’t have permission for and that’s why we made the apology.

      “Chelsea met him, City met him, he is actively for sale. That wasn’t the issue beforehand.

      “The issue was that something happened in the press that took a bit of Southampton’s power away. That’s the situation with them.”

      Liverpool have signed three players so far this summer as they prepare for Jürgen Klopp’s second full season in charge at the club.

      The Reds have brought in Dominic Solanke, Mohamed Salah and Andy Robertson as they gear up for the new Premier League campaign.
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      Reply #1706: Aug 07, 2017 02:14:59 am
      Where have I heard all this before??
      http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2017/08/liverpool-fc-news-latest-update-virgil-van-dijk-reports/
      Liverpool are set to complete a deal to sign Southampton defender Virgil van Dijk this summer, according to Reds insider Graeme Kelly.

      The Merseyside outfit have been heavily linked with a move to bring the 26-year-old centre-half to Anfield for much of the summer but a deal has thus far failed to materialise.

      Liverpool suffered public embarrassment back in June when they were forced to issue a statement apologising for their conduct after Southampton accused the Reds of an alleged illegal approach.

      However, despite the Reds saying that they had ended their interest in the player, Liverpool continue to be linked with a move to sign the defender, who is thought to be keen on a move away from St Mary’s this summer.

      And Kelly says he has been told that a move for Van Dijk is still set to happen for Liverpool this summer.

      Kelly told podcast Code Red, as quoted by the Daily Express: “I’m being told it’ll definitely still happen. It’s about Southampton getting their ducks in a row and it looks like they’re doing that with the kid from Lazio.

      “There should be movement on that at some point this week.

      “Southampton haven’t come out and gone to town on us. When they got the new manager, it was like backhanded conversations they were having.

      “With Southampton, they were well up for a deal. Everyone goes on about [meeting him in] Blackpool and things like that.

      “We had permission to speak to Van Dijk in Blackpool. There were things we didn’t have permission for and that’s why we made the apology.

      “Chelsea met him, City met him, he is actively for sale. That wasn’t the issue beforehand.

      “The issue was that something happened in the press that took a bit of Southampton’s power away. That’s the situation with them.”

      Liverpool have signed three players so far this summer as they prepare for Jürgen Klopp’s second full season in charge at the club.

      The Reds have brought in Dominic Solanke, Mohamed Salah and Andy Robertson as they gear up for the new Premier League campaign.

      Well if it's not this week, then it's bound to be next, or the one after that....

      He also claimed the Keita deal was already done and the posturing/various bids were for the benefit of RBL PR, so his credibility took a nose dive with me there.

      Other's have suggested he's full of sh*t in the past, looks like they were the ITKs and not him.
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      Reply #1707: Aug 07, 2017 02:16:52 am
      Well if it's not this week, then it's bound to be next, or the one after that....

      He also claimed the Keita deal was already done and the posturing/various bids were for the benefit of RBL PR, so his credibility took a nose dive with me there.

      Other's have suggested he's full of sh*t in the past, looks like they were the ITKs and not him.

      Of course then there's this article which claims Chelsea are going to bid along with something I read on reddit...some ITK on the Saints forum saying there is news tomorrow and it sounds like it's not good news for us....

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/antonio-conte-demands-more-signings-10942418

      https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/6s1gi8/saintsweb_itk_tom28_on_vvd_situation_going_to_be/
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      Reply #1708: Aug 07, 2017 02:26:59 am
      Of course then there's this article which claims Chelsea are going to bid along with something I read on reddit...some ITK on the Saints forum saying there is news tomorrow and it sounds like it's not good news for us....

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/antonio-conte-demands-more-signings-10942418

      https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/6s1gi8/saintsweb_itk_tom28_on_vvd_situation_going_to_be/

      At this stage any development would be welcome. If he goes to Chelsea, so be it, at least move on to someone else instead of actively doing nothing if you know what I mean, it's mind numbing.
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      Reply #1709: Aug 07, 2017 02:40:04 am
      Of course then there's this article which claims Chelsea are going to bid along with something I read on reddit...some ITK on the Saints forum saying there is news tomorrow and it sounds like it's not good news for us....

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/antonio-conte-demands-more-signings-10942418

      https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/6s1gi8/saintsweb_itk_tom28_on_vvd_situation_going_to_be/

      Best thing to happen could be Chelsea bidding, allows us to actually make a bid then. Southampton may want him to go to Chelsea, but if VVD does want to come, I'd feel pretty confident of seeing him in a red shirt.

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