Naby Keita - RB Leipzig

Shouldn't we in future endeavour to find out straight away if the potential 'selling club' actually will at some point be willing to sell?

Never ceases to amaze me the amount of times our club wastes weeks and weeks only to eventually be told the player they've been persuing isn't for sale at any price.

Move on, but clubs know now we have 66 million £ we are willing and able to spend.

Not great business accumen for a seemingly stingy bunch.

We must have had some encouragement that Keita wants to leave thats why the 2 bids. However, if he really wants to leave, he needs to play dirty and hand in a transfer request.

So transfer request next then!!

That's how the dance works, isn't it?

If only they were arsed about a transfer request, one that will be rejected anyway.

It will probably be Thomas Muller now.

1) - Something went wrong with the VVD transfer, granted. You still really don't know what that was, but beyond that - I don't think you can really assess our transfer business with "we annoy other teams." You're just buying into the relentless narrative on here.

We know that Southampton threatened to make a report that Van Dijk was tapped up. We know that it was reported that they had evidence that was damning that forced the club to retreat.

What happened with Fulham and Dempsey where the team was forced to apologize? Why is there a suspended transfer ban hanging on the team because of a deal involving a minor from Stoke? Is there another owner anywhere who has a team that has done all these, and came out to say that he did not think that clauses have any value (I could understand not selling to Arsenal, just could not understand why Henry saw it fit to make those statements)?

You cannot have so many of these things happening if you are doing he right thing.

2)Klopp most definitely has a plan. And the plan isn't "just buy someone - ANYone!" - So he's not in a panicked rush to buy someone else while the player(s) he wants are still being pursued. While he may not get everyone he wants, not getting them doesn't mean there was no plan. And here too, he has made it clear he only wants to buy if it improves the team, which includes said player fitting into his system, his idea of a team's framework, etc.

What do other teams do in the market? Do they just buy players without a plan?

The aim of any team in the market is to get better, sometimes to even get younger, sometimes to achieve both. This does not simply apply to the first team, it also applies to adding depth.
Chelsea have gone from wanting to replace Diego Costa with Lukaku, to getting Morata. From Van Dijk to Rudiger. Both fill a need; on one hand they replace a striker who wanted out, on the other they get a CB far younger than most they have in their team. If both pan out, they are better.

United are going from Ibrahimovic, to wanting Griezmann, to wanting Morata, to landing Lukaku. The alternative would be to go into next season with Ibrahimovic who is coming from an ACL injury. They did not get who they wanted, but they got a player who is one of the best strikers in the league.

If you honestly believe that statement, then you will buy anything a team says. I do not believe that Naby Keita is the only midfielder that improve on this Liverpool midfield; I cannot fathom that Van Dijk is the only defender in world football who can improve on Lovren, Klavan and Matip. Not having an alternative, a quality alternative points to a distinct lack of planning. Feel free to argue otherwise.

3) Not sure how different we are to anyone else here, but also not sure how much has actually been leaked. I might respond with 'stop believing everything you read." - It is also ironic that people bemoan leaking info about transfer targets, and then out of the other side of their mouth complain about "nothing happening" in the market when there is no leaked news.

How many teams do you know leak that they are interested in a player then go for weeks without ever making a bid.........scrap that, end up not making a formal approach? How many teams will leak information that they are interested in players for the coming window and see all of them stay/move to other teams?

4)Until the manager says otherwise, there is no ground for suggesting the ownership are jeopardizing our relationship with Klopp. In fact it's just the opposite. You will struggle to find a more proactive and consistently positive message from a manager about the rest of his club's leadership.

How many managers will come out and say otherwise if that was the case, and in public?

You think Pochetinno doesn't want new players in, or is the impending stadium build hampering how Spurs can operate in the market?
You think that Wenger all those years didn't want to spend money, or is it a wonder that they are now spending with the financial load reduced?
You honestly think that Milan and Inter didn't want to spend on better players? Why have they been sold? Why are they now spending more? Could they have been cash strapped?

One of the things one does not do is clashing with your bosses in public. What does it say to your potential employers in future?

I'd rather wait for keita. If we reach some kind of agreement with him now. And make him sign some kind of pre Contract which is binding.
But I can assure you if he has a good season, then the bigger fish then us will come for him.

Who knows maybe rbl will sell him in Jan. And God knows we don't do business in winter windows.

There's a few problems with that, not least the fact that it would be a verbal agreement with no leagal bindings. Then what happens if we don't get Champions League? Or he has another good season and, with the release clause kicking in, Bayern and Real start sniffing around? Will he still want to come then?

There's a few problems with that, not least the fact that it would be a verbal agreement with no leagal bindings. Then what happens if we don't get Champions League? Or he has another good season and, with the release clause kicking in, Bayern and Real start sniffing around? Will he still want to come then?

Yup one way or another we need to add to the squad this window and get ourselves locked into that CL spot...can't waste the opportunity and expect Jürgen to pull it out of his hat every season.

Well it looks like some are getting their wish:

http://www.anfieldhq.com/liverpool-increase-bid-naby-keita-70m/

Club's apparently preparing a £70 million bid. If they turn that down it's time to go elsewhere.

Yup one way or another we need to add to the squad this window and get ourselves locked into that CL spot...can't waste the opportunity and expect Jürgen to pull it out of his hat every season.

I'm not entirely sure that's going to be possible. It's entirely plausable that the Premier League will be the only European League without consistent teams in the Champions League. It could well be that there is a different four of six qualifying each year and we might have to be prepared to accept that as the new norm.

Well it looks like some are getting their wish:

http://www.anfieldhq.com/liverpool-increase-bid-naby-keita-70m/

Club's apparently preparing a £70 million bid. If they turn that down it's time to go elsewhere.


I'm not entirely sure that's going to be possible. It's entirely plausable that the Premier League will be the only European League without consistent teams in the Champions League. It could well be that there is a different four of six qualifying each year and we might have to be prepared to accept that as the new norm.

LIVERPOOL TO INCREASE THEIR BID FOR NABY KEITA TO £70M

The Reds are ready to up their offer for Keita yet again after it became apparent that a £66m bid had been rejected by RB Leipzig, reports the Daily Mirror’s Darren Lewis from Hong Kong.

Jürgen Klopp refused to comment on speculation that Liverpool’s £66m bid for Keita had been rejected and still seems extremely relaxed about the club’s transfer negotiations.

Around a month ago, it was reported by BILD that €80m (roughly £70m) would be enough to tempt Leipzig into selling the Guinean and this report claims that Liverpool are ready to submit an offer around that figure now.

It would be unusual for Liverpool to be making bids for a player that they don’t believe they can sign. The Guardian’s Andy Hunter has even suggested that Keita’s agent may be in Hong Kong.

The Reds are ready to up their offer for Keita yet again after it became apparent that a £66m bid had been rejected by RB Leipzig, reports the Daily Mirror’s Darren Lewis from Hong Kong.

Jürgen Klopp refused to comment on speculation that Liverpool’s £66m bid for Keita had been rejected and still seems extremely relaxed about the club’s transfer negotiations.

WATCH: Jürgen Klopp’s response to rumours of £66m rejected Naby Keita bid


HONG KONG, CHINA – Wednesday, July 19, 2017: Liverpool’s manager Jürgen Klopp during a post match press conference after the Premier League Asia Trophy match between Liverpool and Crystal Palace at the Hong Kong International Stadium. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Around a month ago, it was reported by BILD that €80m (roughly £70m) would be enough to tempt Leipzig into selling the Guinean and this report claims that Liverpool are ready to submit an offer around that figure now.

It would be unusual for Liverpool to be making bids for a player that they don’t believe they can sign. The Guardian’s Andy Hunter has even suggested that Keita’s agent may be in Hong Kong.

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There are suggestions Naby Keïta’s agent is in Hong Kong to talk to Liverpool about whether they will make another bid. (@AHunterGuardian)
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Interestingly, the report in the Mirror claims that Liverpool’s sporting director Michael Edwards has remained in Liverpool to crack on with transfer negotiations as the Reds look to secure the Guinean in a deal that would be worth over double their current transfer record.

It is also possible that Keita and/or his representatives will look to push for a transfer to Liverpool, just as they did to get Sadio Mané his move from Red Bull Salzburg to Southampton in 2014.


http://www.anfieldhq.com/liverpool-increase-bid-naby-keita-70m/

Liverpool manager Jürgen Klopp laughed off talk of a £66m Liverpool bid for Naby Keita after the Reds beat Crystal Palace in Hong Kong on Wednesday.

On Wednesday morning, an interview Leipzig owner Dietrich Mateschitz emerged in Germany, where he claimed that the club had rejected a €75m (£66m) offer for star man Naby Keita.

It was then reported that it was Liverpool who had made this offer as a follow up to their initial bid that was said to be around the £57m mark.

But as you can see above, Jürgen Klopp seemed incredibly relaxed and not at all worried when asked about these reports in Hong Kong today.

Gotta love the gaffer, here is a link the vid: http://www.anfieldhq.com/video-Jürgen-klopp-provides-brilliant-response-asked-66m-bid-naby-keita/

The supposed £48 buy out clause and the player's own wishes could make the difference.

Without that clause, which is said to become active next summer, they could be pretty confident of selling for a huge  fee anyway. So why not keep hold of him...

Second is the player himself...hard to keep a player against his wishes. I doubt though Keita is keen to rock the boat or to be seen as ungrateful to the club that gave him his big break.

The supposed £48 buy out clause and the player's own wishes could make the difference.

Without that clause, which is said to become active next summer, they could be pretty confident of selling for a huge  fee next summer anyway. So why not keep hold of him...

Second is the player himself...hard to keep a player against his wishes. I doubt though he is keen to rock the boat or to be seen as ungrateful to the club that gave him his big break.

Think the first team in line for him next season is Bayern....see how that plays to the Leipzig supporters.

Think the first team in line for him next season is Bayern....see how that plays to the Leipzig supporters.

Bayern has long had a stranglehold on all the best talent in Germany. Perhaps that's another factor in our favour: f*ck selling to them.

I have no idea who this is but apparently it has something to do with Keita:

https://twitter.com/segadiallo/status/887803110726520832

So, I looked and agreed mostly with this guy:

https://twitter.com/jt16lfc/status/887806513758261248

Finally, thought we'd never get this done....

LIVERPOOL TO INCREASE THEIR BID FOR NABY KEITA TO £70M

The Reds are ready to up their offer for Keita yet again after it became apparent that a £66m bid had been rejected by RB Leipzig, reports the Daily Mirror’s Darren Lewis from Hong Kong.

Jürgen Klopp refused to comment on speculation that Liverpool’s £66m bid for Keita had been rejected and still seems extremely relaxed about the club’s transfer negotiations.

Around a month ago, it was reported by BILD that €80m (roughly £70m) would be enough to tempt Leipzig into selling the Guinean and this report claims that Liverpool are ready to submit an offer around that figure now.

It would be unusual for Liverpool to be making bids for a player that they don’t believe they can sign. The Guardian’s Andy Hunter has even suggested that Keita’s agent may be in Hong Kong.

The Reds are ready to up their offer for Keita yet again after it became apparent that a £66m bid had been rejected by RB Leipzig, reports the Daily Mirror’s Darren Lewis from Hong Kong.

Jürgen Klopp refused to comment on speculation that Liverpool’s £66m bid for Keita had been rejected and still seems extremely relaxed about the club’s transfer negotiations.

WATCH: Jürgen Klopp’s response to rumours of £66m rejected Naby Keita bid


HONG KONG, CHINA – Wednesday, July 19, 2017: Liverpool’s manager Jürgen Klopp during a post match press conference after the Premier League Asia Trophy match between Liverpool and Crystal Palace at the Hong Kong International Stadium. (Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)

Around a month ago, it was reported by BILD that €80m (roughly £70m) would be enough to tempt Leipzig into selling the Guinean and this report claims that Liverpool are ready to submit an offer around that figure now.

It would be unusual for Liverpool to be making bids for a player that they don’t believe they can sign. The Guardian’s Andy Hunter has even suggested that Keita’s agent may be in Hong Kong.

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There are suggestions Naby Keïta’s agent is in Hong Kong to talk to Liverpool about whether they will make another bid. (@AHunterGuardian)
5:39 AM - 19 Jul 2017
  167 167 Retweets   393 393 likes

Interestingly, the report in the Mirror claims that Liverpool’s sporting director Michael Edwards has remained in Liverpool to crack on with transfer negotiations as the Reds look to secure the Guinean in a deal that would be worth over double their current transfer record.

It is also possible that Keita and/or his representatives will look to push for a transfer to Liverpool, just as they did to get Sadio Mané his move from Red Bull Salzburg to Southampton in 2014.


http://www.anfieldhq.com/liverpool-increase-bid-naby-keita-70m/

If we bid that and if they accept it, I'll be gobsmacked. Can't believe we would bid that much for a player and can't believe they'll accept it after all the posturing they've done.

Again: Liverpool is aiming at next year, they try to get into Keitas head, so once he'll be available and Real, Barca and Munich show off, he hopefully remembers our interest and appreciation which could be a dealmaker, they are all just people. I bet Klopp could have gone anywhere, but he came to us because we tried so often and he felt appreciated.

Auba won't be aquired by us too. He's too old and too one-dimensional.

What happens here is just what always happens with Jürgen. He tries to better his squad instead of going out and buy. And I am fine with it. Last season showed we are a title contender with out first 11 and now we got Solanke and Salah and a bunch of upcoming bench players that have one more year under their belt. Relax.

I've never seen Keita play but I hope we sign him because the manager obviously rates him. However if it's not sorted within the next couple of weeks, we should move on and sign someone else.

Reminds me a bit of the Dahoud stuff last year; we wanted to sign him, he was reportedly keen on the move but the club had none of it (partly due to Arsenal signing their other CM).

According to the media, the Echo included, we were waiting until this summer to sign Dahoud rather than get someone else because he was Klopp's number one midfield target. Obviously, he ended up signing for Bayern a few weeks ago.

Let's not have the same situation again please.

I've never seen Keita play but I hope we sign him because the manager obviously rates him. However if it's not sorted within the next couple of weeks, we should move on and sign someone else.

Reminds me a bit of the Dahoud stuff last year; we wanted to sign him, he was reportedly keen on the move but the club had none of it (partly due to Arsenal signing their other CM).

According to the media, the Echo included, we were waiting until this summer to sign Dahoud rather than get someone else because he was Klopp's number one midfield target. Obviously, he ended up signing for Bayern a few weeks ago.

Let's not have the same situation again please.

That's why I throw a load of salt over my shoulder when people say the ole chestnut 'we'll sign him next summer'.

If we bid that and if they accept it, I'll be gobsmacked. Can't believe we would bid that much for a player and can't believe they'll accept it after all the posturing they've done.

I have to admit, I'll be pretty surprised to going on RB Leipzig continued stance.

I am also surprised we're going in for him again there must be something there for us to do that; plus the fact we're only bidding against ourselves here. Thank F**k we're not scared of our own shadow like we are when our rivals make bids on the same player we're interested in. 

genuinely think this could be a publicity stunt to get fans on the owners side. a lot of fans just seem happy to be linked with big money bids, they think these links are proof the owners will now drop 70million pounds on one player. there is no proof, there is no 70mil signing, we will not make these big signings. the idea that RB Leipzig would sell Keita or Forsberg was stupid a month ago and is stupid now, nothing has changed. it'd be like us selling Hendo or Coutinho, we wouldn't at this stage, even if Red Bull whatever came in with 70mil. same scenario for them. we're not selling Sturridge cos it'd be too expensive to get a replacement in, similar deal, even if they sell they have no time to get a replacement in, they'd significantly weaken.

the story will go up and down before Keita stays, and these people will apologise for FSG under the illusion that "they did everything they could". we will sign 3 more players (not including Robertson) for healthy money, probably have a tiny overall net spend as usual. selling Sakho and Markovic will create most of our budget which we'll put into a new CM or two. the owners will splash some of their money on VvD but that deal will be instalments anyway so it's not like they'll drop 50+ on him in one window, more like over two years. i wish people would just be fine with money and not care about "winning" the transfer window spending!

Again: Liverpool is aiming at next year, they try to get into Keitas head, so once he'll be available and Real, Barca and Munich show off, he hopefully remembers our interest and appreciation which could be a dealmaker, they are all just people. I bet Klopp could have gone anywhere, but he came to us because we tried so often and he felt appreciated.

Auba won't be aquired by us too. He's too old and too one-dimensional.

What happens here is just what always happens with Jürgen. He tries to better his squad instead of going out and buy. And I am fine with it. Last season showed we are a title contender with out first 11 and now we got Solanke and Salah and a bunch of upcoming bench players that have one more year under their belt. Relax.

If by one dimensional you mean a one man team destroyer I completely agree.

If he's available and open to a move we should get him.

If he's available and open to a move we should get him.

I have a feeling we won't go for someone as long as Sturridge is still here.

Bobby, Sturridge, Origi and Solanke are our options and then you have Ings - whether that'll be enough, we'll see.

I have a feeling we won't go for someone as long as Sturridge is still here.

Bobby, Sturridge, Origi and Solanke are our options and then you have Ings - whether that'll be enough, we'll see.

Again, scoring goals is not an issue for us.

I have a feeling we won't go for someone as long as Sturridge is still here.

Bobby, Sturridge, Origi and Solanke are our options and then you have Ings - whether that'll be enough, we'll see.

Even if we needed a striker, there is no chance we will pay 60m for a 28 year old. I am thinking our striking is okay.
Sturridge, Origi, Firmino, Solanke, Ings, Lallana, Coutinho, Mane, Salah and Woodburn.. 10 players who can go forward.