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      Champions League 2017/2018

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      RedWilly
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      Re: Champions League 2017/2018
      Reply #330: Apr 03, 2018 10:49:31 pm
      Messi and Ronaldo are the greatest footballers that have ever lived.

      End of story.

      Agreed, no one else comes close to their longevity or ability to continue to find new ways to amaze even after all these years.

      That Ronaldo goal, in terms of pure technique, is one of the best I’ve ever seen and will see in a very long time I’m sure.
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      Reply #332: Apr 03, 2018 10:53:53 pm
      Agreed, no one else comes close to their longevity or ability to continue to find new ways to amaze even after all these years.

      That Ronaldo goal, in terms of pure technique, is one of the best I’ve ever seen and will see in a very long time I’m sure.

      The "yeah but have they done it in a World Cup?"  etc, etc, argument always annoys me, too.

      They do it year in, year out in the Champions League which, for me, supersedes the international tournaments that come around every couple of years.
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      Reply #333: Apr 03, 2018 10:57:42 pm
      « Last Edit: Apr 04, 2018 07:43:43 am by JD »
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      Reply #334: Apr 03, 2018 11:01:38 pm

      I remember watching this live on the telly. Barca had to win to get top 4 and rivaldo did this in the dying seconds!

      The best overhead kick is and always will be Trevor Sinclair for QPR.
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      Reply #335: Apr 03, 2018 11:07:41 pm
      I remember watching this live on the telly. Barca had to win to get top 4 and rivaldo did this in the dying seconds!

      The best overhead kick is and always will be Trevor Sinclair for QPR.

      For me, this tops all the overhead kicks.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH_gBJT9bAg
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      Reply #336: Apr 03, 2018 11:59:27 pm
      Hate him or love him Ronaldo is in serious contention for the G.O.A.T
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      Reply #337: Apr 04, 2018 12:26:12 am
      Messi and Ronaldo are the greatest footballers that have ever lived.

      End of story.

      Yeah their statistics are pretty impressive, however this is most likely down to the amount of investment in their respective teams. I mean in reality they don't play many games in a year really given the gulf in resources between them and the rest of the teams. Juventus is easily the richest team in Italy and has one 6 on the spin in Italy, similarly for Bayern in Germany. PSG in France. Now City in UK I mean racking up victories when you are easily going to beat most teams is no victory really.

      As for the world cup v the Champions League. People saying the CL is harder. The difference is Portugal and Argentina can't import any player they want to help their stars.

      No for me unless you have dragged your team totheir only 2 Scudetto's ever in the toughest league of all time against richer clubs like Milan (who could easily be considered the greatest club team ever) and Juve and Inter. Whilst also having won a World Cup with nowhere near a squad of the quality of Brazil or France or Germany amongst others, and when everything rested on your shoulders. As for Higlights films well I don't think Ronaldo's highlights film compares to Diego's. Messi's comes a little closer but unfortunately it's a little the same, full of rehearsed moves with that wonderful 2009-12 Barca team. MAradona never had such luxury and he never disappointed.

      Ronaldo on the other hand, just look at the teams he is in. Same with Messi. One thing about Ronaldo is he keeps defying age ..... almost miraculously?
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      Reply #338: Apr 04, 2018 12:40:25 am
      That goal was absolutely beautiful. The ball was actually moving AWAY toward the centerline. I loved the Juve back, he just put it his arms out and said.."what can you do?" Buffon didnt even move. I think he knew that was the greatest goal scored against him. He just stood there looking like someone stole his shoes.
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      Reply #339: Apr 04, 2018 05:16:51 am
      Do people think UEFA prefer a Zizou vs Guardiola - 1st to 3 CL medals or Messi v Ronaldo - first to 6 Balon  DÓr trophies. It's like a soap opera or WWF. Does anyone think there is more than financial doping going on?
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      Reply #340: Apr 04, 2018 06:20:46 am
      Do people think UEFA prefer a Zizou vs Guardiola - 1st to 3 CL medals or Messi v Ronaldo - first to 6 Balon  DÓr trophies. It's like a soap opera or WWF. Does anyone think there is more than financial doping going on?

      I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job, JFK was shot by the CIA, chem trails are real and ISIS was created by the US government.

      Am I right?
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      Reply #341: Apr 04, 2018 08:15:47 am
      I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job, JFK was shot by the CIA, chem trails are real and ISIS was created by the US government.

      Am I right?

      Certainly right on one of them but just my opinion.  For fear of going right off topic I shall decline to answer this one.   ;D

      For as good as Ronaldo & Messi are would still of loved to see them both do it in the Premier League. I still thinks it's harder to score that many goals on a regular basis in our league. Ronaldo didn't stay long enough when at Man U.
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      Reply #342: Apr 04, 2018 09:30:03 am
      Goal was no better than what Emre scored last season, now long forgotten.
      But of course because it was Ronaldo the press will be jizzing over the greatest ever goal scored!!
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      Reply #343: Apr 04, 2018 09:34:38 am
      Goal was no better than what Emre scored last season, now long forgotten.
      But of course because it was Ronaldo the press will be jizzing over the greatest ever goal scored!!

      Not taking anything off Emre goals as that was world class too. However, Ronaldo got a lot more height on this one that makes it look even harder to do. That and the fact this was a bigger game is why players/fans/media would say its better.
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      Reply #344: Apr 04, 2018 09:49:03 am
      Not taking anything off Emre goals as that was world class too. However, Ronaldo got a lot more height on this one that makes it look even harder to do. That and the fact this was a bigger game is why players/fans/media would say its better.

      Nope it’s because it’s Ronaldo.

      Different rules apply to Ronaldo and Messi, these two are not mere mortals, didn’t you know  ;)

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      Reply #345: Apr 04, 2018 10:04:02 am
      Nope it’s because it’s Ronaldo.

      Different rules apply to Ronaldo and Messi, these two are not mere mortals, didn’t you know  ;)



       Well they're 2 of  the best players in the world. More take notice when it comes from the best so you can argue a point.
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      Reply #346: Apr 04, 2018 12:01:02 pm
      Goal was no better than what Emre scored last season, now long forgotten.
      But of course because it was Ronaldo the press will be jizzing over the greatest ever goal scored!!
      Oh boy.

      He did that in a Champion’s League Quarterfinal game against one of the best (if not the best) defensive teams in the world. I’d say it’s a better goal, at least more important.

      Give the guy his due, he’s pretty good at football.
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      Reply #347: Apr 04, 2018 12:32:45 pm
      I hope Messi scores a worldie tonight, sick of the Ronaldo love!
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      Reply #348: Apr 04, 2018 12:44:12 pm
      I hope Messi scores a worldie tonight, sick of the Ronaldo love!

      Very hard to knock great football mate. When Salah ran rings round the Watford..(( yes granted it was only Watford ))... defence the other week you can only admire the quality of his dribbling skills. Simply world class which is what i like watching...
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      Reply #349: Apr 04, 2018 12:45:10 pm
      Goal was no better than what Emre scored last season, now long forgotten.
      But of course because it was Ronaldo the press will be jizzing over the greatest ever goal scored!!

      Yep. Seen it done before and in some cases in better fashion like Ibra's goal against England (and Can's against Watford). Besides, I've seen Ronaldo score better goals for Man Utd like his free kick against Portsmouth 10 years back. Sensational dip and speed on that one.
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      Reply #350: Apr 04, 2018 01:14:21 pm
      Oh boy.

      He did that in a Champion’s League Quarterfinal game against one of the best (if not the best) defensive teams in the world. I’d say it’s a better goal, at least more important.

      Give the guy his due, he’s pretty good at football.


      It’s just a overhead/bicycle kick, call it what you want. Not sure what makes it better than any of the others you see every season.

      Never said he was sh*te but anything he and Messi do just get so over blown was my point.

      Everyone to themselves I suppose.

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      Reply #351: Apr 04, 2018 01:54:18 pm
      2.38m was the height of the ball when it connected with Ronaldo's foot.
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      Reply #352: Apr 04, 2018 03:14:24 pm
      Ronaldo himself said its the best goal of his career.... I won't argue with that one.
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      Reply #353: Apr 05, 2018 01:34:44 am
      I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job, JFK was shot by the CIA, chem trails are real and ISIS was created by the US government.

      Am I right?

      I don't 'believe' anything, hard facts are the deciding factor. You can't get those from Google, Wikipedia or 'Official Sources'.
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      Reply #354: Apr 05, 2018 06:06:41 pm
      It’s just a overhead/bicycle kick, call it what you want. Not sure what makes it better than any of the others you see every season.

      Never said he was sh*te but anything he and Messi do just get so over blown was my point.

      Everyone to themselves I suppose.
       

      yep,was way over hyped.I read all the stuff about it but only watched it pre game yesterday,decent but not the f**king worldie described.
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      Reply #355: Apr 05, 2018 07:07:10 pm
       

      yep,was way over hyped.I read all the stuff about it but only watched it pre game yesterday,decent but not the f**king worldie described.

      I like Chamberlain's goal better than Ronaldo's, not just because it was a Liverpool goal but just I prefer a shot from outside the box than an overhead kick.
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      Reply #356: Apr 05, 2018 07:23:47 pm
      I like Chamberlain's goal better than Ronaldo's, not just because it was a Liverpool goal but just I prefer a shot from outside the box than an overhead kick.

      That just doesn't make sense  ??? The Amount of goals scored outside the box are in thousands. Rose tinted glasses  ;D
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      Reply #357: Apr 05, 2018 07:25:06 pm
      That just doesn't make sense  ??? The Amount of goals scored outside the box are in thousands. Rose tinted glasses  :-\

      I know, but I just like those better.
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      Reply #358: Apr 05, 2018 07:26:05 pm
      I know, but I just like those better.

      Your easy to please then  :D
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      Reply #359: Apr 05, 2018 07:33:00 pm

      Even Ibra's goal on the weekend was better (for me at least). Not saying it wasn't a good goal, just that I've seen better goals.

      Anyway, just my opinion.

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