Mohamed Salah Player Thread (F)

If he’s staying

Has to sign a contract for a couple of years added

But this could also be put out by the club to let teams know he isn’t for sale so they don’t offer less incase they did etc

Clearly not been right since injury. Form was good pre Afcon.

Still a dick with the boss mind.

Maybe it is his injury and not the same player, still bit early to be saying he’s passed it over the last 6/7 games. It was bad with Klopp though, he should never of done that to him.

Mo is competive. He wants to be playing. He wants the team to be playing better and probably feels he can do something to help with that. He's also been with Klopp a long time and I can't imagine this is easy on him. I just chalk it up to two guys who are seeing a good thing coming to and end and want desperately to change the ending

Mo is competive. He wants to be playing. He wants the team to be playing better and probably feels he can do something to help with that. He's also been with Klopp a long time and I can't imagine this is easy on him. I just chalk it up to two guys who are seeing a good thing coming to and end and want desperately to change the ending

Any response he wanted to give has to come on the pitch not that bullshit Saturday....and if he thinks he just walks into the team no matter how poor hes playing well time to go

So is Nunez, also in top 2 for goals. But that's not the problem people have with Nunez just like the numbers aren't the problem people have with Mo. We've been here a thousand times before.

It's the stray passes, the weak hold up, the poor misses, the refusal to go past a man. For every goal or assist there's ten slack pieces of build up play.

The bigger issue is 9 games without a clean sheet.

We have an unrealistic standard for our forwards.

Every shot isn't going to go in.

Passes will stray. Thats bloody football.

But we can't just leak goals and expect to OUT SCORE the opposition every single time.

And most importantly, the solution is not to sell our top scorers. That is completely illogical, and is purely based on emotion.

And ppl say women are emotional. Pfft

I don’t see it as toxic, I see it as a permutation, highly unlikely but can add it to the list of many theories.

It is a toxic, 'un-winable' situation to put someone in. Whatever you do you will be seen in a negative light. People do it in relationships and i've seen fans do this in football.

For example. If England win the Euros its not because of Gareth, the players were just good, he's a terrible manager. But if they DON'T win it. Its because Gareth is a terrible manager and he's got to go. This is a literal lose-lose.

Completely illogical.

The bigger issue is 9 games without a clean sheet.

We have an unrealistic standard for our forwards.

Every shot isn't going to go in.

Passes will stray. Thats bloody football.

But we can't just leak goals and expect to OUT SCORE the opposition every single time.

And most importantly, the solution is not to sell our top scorers. That is completely illogical, and is purely based on emotion.

And ppl say women are emotional. Pfft

Yep. Our defense is our main issue right now. We aren’t doing the little things right.

Both are an issue

Whilst we are not stopping goals going in we are also not taking the chances created

Both need sorting if we want to progress

The bigger issue is 9 games without a clean sheet.

We have an unrealistic standard for our forwards.

Every shot isn't going to go in.

Passes will stray. Thats bloody football.

But we can't just leak goals and expect to OUT SCORE the opposition every single time.

And most importantly, the solution is not to sell our top scorers. That is completely illogical, and is purely based on emotion.

And ppl say women are emotional. Pfft

Women are people.

It is a toxic, 'un-winable' situation to put someone in. Whatever you do you will be seen in a negative light. People do it in relationships and i've seen fans do this in football.

For example. If England win the Euros its not because of Gareth, the players were just good, he's a terrible manager. But if they DON'T win it. Its because Gareth is a terrible manager and he's got to go. This is a literal lose-lose.

Completely illogical.

Ok Spock. 🖖 😂

If there is still a huge offer on the table from Saudi, then surely we need to consider that.
Yes we could get another year or two out of Mo, but regardless, he will need to be replaced soon, so do we do that now and maybe rake in big money that we can use to invest in new talent, or not.
Mo has been a massive player for us, his legacy is safe, but he has had a fairly long drop-off in form - and yes, he could bounce back, but he might not, or the form recovery might not be to the previous levels etc.  We don't know.

It feels like we are still in a transitional phase, only last season whole new midfield.  Now a new manager comes in this summer.  Seems like a good time to make the decision now and make some hay while the sun shines.

If there is still a huge offer on the table from Saudi, then surely we need to consider that.
Yes we could get another year or two out of Mo, but regardless, he will need to be replaced soon, so do we do that now and maybe rake in big money that we can use to invest in new talent, or not.
Mo has been a massive player for us, his legacy is safe, but he has had a fairly long drop-off in form - and yes, he could bounce back, but he might not, or the form recovery might not be to the previous levels etc.  We don't know.

It feels like we are still in a transitional phase, only last season whole new midfield.  Now a new manager comes in this summer.  Seems like a good time to make the decision now and make some hay while the sun shines.

Not for me ... id rather ship out the failures like nunez and diaz. Not club legends who are still better than the aforementioned duo. Get what we can for nunez and diaz and use the money to buy quality players who can actually operate on the same level as salah and jota. Maybe just maybe it will make us a better team.

Not for me ... id rather ship out the failures like nunez and diaz. Not club legends who are still better than the aforementioned duo. Get what we can for nunez and diaz and use the money to buy quality players who can actually operate on the same level as salah and jota. Maybe just maybe it will make us a better team.

Fair enough. And Mo is a club legend.
But he hasn't been the same since injury/AFCON. Not even close. And there is no guarantee he will get back to that form.  He might, but can't assume he will, age-wise he is toward the end of his career at the very top level.

Mo is competive. He wants to be playing. He wants the team to be playing better and probably feels he can do something to help with that. He's also been with Klopp a long time and I can't imagine this is easy on him. I just chalk it up to two guys who are seeing a good thing coming to and end and want desperately to change the ending

All Mo wants is the golden boot and not what’s good for the squad, very selfish, if I was Klopp he would be on the bench for the last three games

Both are an issue

Whilst we are not stopping goals going in we are also not taking the chances created

Both need sorting if we want to progress

I agree both can be an issue. But the sole focus is on Salah alone (thru fans and the media) and it makes zero sense. To focus on the person who is literally our top scorer and 2nd top assister, in the direct face of the fact that we've not had a clean sheet in 9 games (also only 2 clean sheets in 16 games), is actually insane.

Even when we were winning and had a good spell we conceded every single game. The issue is staring us directly in the eyes here.

How long are we supported to magically out score the opposition?

Hang on, the stats. are even worse. In the last 20 League games, we have only had FOUR clean sheets.

Half a season with 4 clean sheets.

Dont talk to me about Salah.

In contrast, Citeh have had 7, Arsenal have had 10!

C'mon man.

Hang on, the stats. are even worse. In the last 20 League games, we have only had FOUR clean sheets.

Half a season with 4 clean sheets.

Dont talk to me about Salah.

In contrast, Citeh have had 7, Arsenal have had 10!

C'mon man.

Missing chances erodes confidence. You end up getting more desperate and committing more forward and then being hit on the break and so on

Had we taken our chances before conceding our 1st goals which we had so much of, we would be ok

Just for context, city and Arsenal have scored around 12-15 more goals than their expected this season in the premier league according to sky sports

We have scored 2 less I believe, we should be scoring more than we have and an extra  12-14 pl goals would have gone a long way

Is our defending as a team Perfect? No, is it good yes. Our attack is also good

But to win a league, we needed one of them to be excellent imo which neither has been

Missing chances erodes confidence. You end up getting more desperate and committing more forward and then being hit on the break and so on

Had we taken our chances before conceding our 1st goals which we had so much of, we would be ok

Just for context, city and Arsenal have scored around 12-15 more goals than their expected this season in the premier league according to sky sports

We have scored 2 less I believe, we should be scoring more than we have and an extra  12-14 pl goals would have gone a long way

Is our defending as a team Perfect? No, is it good yes. Our attack is also good

But to win a league, we needed one of them to be excellent imo which neither has been

As pointed out before, even when we were in 'good form' we were conceding goals. There was no 'desperation' there or chasing games. We gave up goals.

Look at the 2 goals concede against everton. That had nothing to do with 'getting desperate'. Just simple set plays and Trent not challenging headers.

Vs west ham. Bowens goal was a simple header. We were already ahead 1-2 and they equalized. Michail Antonio got between Trent and the CB (a constant problem since last season) We were not 'desperate' at that point. You are crafting a narrative to suit your argument in the face of the blatant fact that we cannot defend.

Even that old miserable codger Steve Nicol has been saying for months, even when we were winning, that we are too open and its not going to keep working. I thought he was just a miserable old git, but he was 100% right.

We leak silly needless goals. Not counter attacking goals because we're desperate. We leak simple headers, lack of concentration, rebounds from crosses. Twisting yourself into knots to blame the attack for the goals we concede is crazy.

We already had a season where we scored 101 goals and conceded 50 and finished 2nd. You can't go half a season with 4 clean sheets and win the league. You can't 'out score' everyone with a leaky defense. This is basic football 101.

Have we taken a moment to think Salah doesn't want to leave and the core players of the team are aware of this. It could be as simple as if the club forces Salah out, players like VVD, Ali, Trent may look the other way.

Yes he has been out of form but he is a true professional when it comes to how to live as a pure athlete and that might be a strong influence behind the scenes, coupled with how important he has been with his output since being here, other senior players may not take too kindly to the club forcing him out if he doesn't have any intentions of leaving.

So much we don't know, so we will have to just wait and see.

His own personal anger at being crap past couple of months, and being injured for a long time boiled over and got the better of him Saturday that's it nothing more complicated.

Both are an issue

Whilst we are not stopping goals going in we are also not taking the chances created

Both need sorting if we want to progress

But if you don’t give up goals you don’t lose. Granted if you don’t score you don’t win but if you keep clean sheets, it’s much easier to win.

But if you don’t give up goals you don’t lose. Granted if you don’t score you don’t win but if you keep clean sheets, it’s much easier to win.

We also did a thing previously, where we scored over 100 goals and still didn't win the league.

Even when we were winning games this season, we were giving up goals.

At a certain point the penny is going to drop.

But if you don’t give up goals you don’t lose. Granted if you don’t score you don’t win but if you keep clean sheets, it’s much easier to win.

I think there has only been one season under Klopp the one where we win the league where we barely conceded goals but otherwise it’s been an attack orientated system which relies on out scoring the opposition so if we don’t take our chances it creates the situation like the last 6 weeks.