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      Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread

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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #150: Sep 22, 2017 02:10:53 pm
      Way to support a new signing lads

      I think he will be fine for what it's worth. People slagged off Gini at the  same point of last season  and he ended up doing a good job for the team.
      I think by the time the season is out people will think of Chamberlain the same way
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #151: Sep 22, 2017 02:15:52 pm
      Klopp likes him and I trust his judgement over ours, even after the other day. Salah is already our number one goal scorer. Robo looks like he will be first team LB soon. Klopp knows his system and knows players, and so far they are doing fairly well at their new home. The Ox sucked something awful the other day, but lets give him time. I want to see him in the central mid field role.

      Oh I have no problem with Ox, I hope he does well and I’m rooting for him, I just don’t understand the buy myself. I think he can be a good player and I’m not slagging him off, just don’t understand how he was a priority but a central defender wasn’t.
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      Reply #152: Sep 22, 2017 03:11:44 pm
      Oh I have no problem with Ox, I hope he does well and I’m rooting for him, I just don’t understand the buy myself. I think he can be a good player and I’m not slagging him off, just don’t understand how he was a priority but a central defender wasn’t.

      Yea it's bizarre mate.

      Especially when we could have taken him on a free Summer 18.

      £40 mill would have gone a long way towards a Sakho replacement.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #153: Sep 22, 2017 03:44:37 pm
      Way to support a new signing lads

      I think he will be fine for what it's worth. People slagged off Gini at the  same point of last season  and he ended up doing a good job for the team.
      I think by the time the season is out people will think of Chamberlain the same way

      People have slagged off most of Jürgen's signings so far if you think about it. I remember people questioning and being underwhelmed by both the Mane and Salah transfers too. Both are two of our most important / productive players right now.

      How long has AOC been here now and how much time has he actually been able to spend on the training pitch getting used to the tactics? Straight after the transfer there was an international break and since that it has been game after game, recovery session after recovery session, preparing the next game, ... It's not surprising at all that he looked completely out of sync on Tuesday. I've always thought Arsenal players looked unfit (bar a few exceptions like Sanchez) compared to our players and they suffer from even more injuries than our players do.

      It'll take time for him to 1. get fit enough to play in our system and 2. get the tactics. I don't think we'll be seeing him start a game in midfield for the foreseeable future. The pressing triggers, the rotation in midfield, positional play, ... Isn't something you just learn over night. It's too big a risk to play him in midfield now. If one of the three doesn't do their job properly and leaves holes in either the press or the block, it leaves us wide open. Prime example being Can who seemingly just can't be arsed to do any running back at the moment. Playing out wide should be easier for him right now. Give him a year to really get up to speed with everything and next year we can start judging the lad. Not after one start in a second string team in the League Cup without a significant amount of time on the training pitch.

      Oh I have no problem with Ox, I hope he does well and I’m rooting for him, I just don’t understand the buy myself. I think he can be a good player and I’m not slagging him off, just don’t understand how he was a priority but a central defender wasn’t.

      I don't really think it was a priority, more an "opportunity" if you can call it that? He refused to extend his Arsenal contract, Chelsea jumped on it and he made it clear he wanted to come to us. We (probably) overpaid, but sadly enough that's just today's market and certainly for young English internationals. Don't blame the player for costing what he did or for what clubs are prepared to pay for him. Pogba cost £90 million and he was sh*t last season. It's only now that he's starting to prove his worth.

      I also think we really needed cover on the wings / for the #8 position. With only Mane and Salah as first team 'wide' players and Wijnaldum, Coutinho and Lallana the #8 players (Can and Henderson don't cut it as #8's for me), we were rather short on players for these positions. So as you say, not as big a priority as a CB, but still much needed cover, for me at least.

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      Reply #154: Sep 22, 2017 05:07:25 pm
      he had a chance against Leicister in the cup, which to many fans did matter, he failed to impress.

      The league cup doesn't matter. Period.
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      Reply #155: Sep 22, 2017 05:08:10 pm
      He may have had a stinker against Leicester, but his attitude was spot on. Give him time.
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      Reply #156: Sep 22, 2017 05:08:54 pm
      The league cup doesn't matter. Period.

      Hi! Don't start that again! 😁
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      Reply #157: Sep 22, 2017 05:19:33 pm
      The league cup doesn't matter. Period.

      It should matter to a club that has one trophy in 11 years :-\
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      Reply #158: Sep 22, 2017 08:21:08 pm
      The league cup doesn't matter. Period.

      Can,t believe you of all people think that....Was going to try and tell you why it does, but if you can not see why it does there is no point in me trying to explain it to you...

      To quote you....

      So much for Liverpool having the smartest fans in the game
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      Reply #159: Sep 22, 2017 08:24:18 pm
      Can,t believe you of all people think that....Was going to try and tell you why it does, but if you can not see why it does there is no point in me trying to explain it to you...

      To quote you....


      Hey, you can drool over a micky mouse cup all you want. I think it's a waste of time. Don't pretend like you've never made fun of it before, it's universally recognised as a joke trophy.
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      Reply #160: Sep 22, 2017 09:21:40 pm
      Hey, you can drool over a micky mouse cup all you want. I think it's a waste of time. Don't pretend like you've never made fun of it before, it's universally recognised as a joke trophy.
      You are quite right I have but I did so because i believe it should be a cup for our fringe players and our youths much like Wenger use to do
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      Reply #161: Sep 22, 2017 09:29:57 pm
      You are quite right I have but I did so because i believe it should be a cup for our fringe players and our youths much like Wenger use to do

      Exactly, it's for fringe players so Ox playing in that competition doesn't show me much. Don't think the game really matters. When he starts playing more Premier League games then I think we'll be in a better position to judge him
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      Reply #162: Sep 23, 2017 12:33:39 pm
      Exactly, it's for fringe players so Ox playing in that competition doesn't show me much. Don't think the game really matters. When he starts playing more Premier League games then I think we'll be in a better position to judge him

      But you can hardly call Coutinho,Wijnaldum and Henderson fringe players nor for that matter could the Ox be considered as one.... You would expect  Markovic to have started instead of the Ox, he is more on the fringe of the team and Woodburn over Coutinho any way it is done and dusted now...
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      Reply #163: Sep 23, 2017 01:12:41 pm
      But you can hardly call Coutinho,Wijnaldum and Henderson fringe players nor for that matter could the Ox be considered as one.... You would expect  Markovic to have started instead of the Ox, he is more on the fringe of the team and Woodburn over Coutinho any way it is done and dusted now...

      Come on... Don't try to argue that was anywhere near a full strength team. Do I really need to go into it:

      Ward; Flanagan, Gomez, Klavan, Robertson; Henderson, Grujic, Wijnaldum; Oxlade-Chamberlain, Coutinho, Solanke

      So many fringe players there. I think it was the correct call to put Ox in there however I would have rather seen him in CM where I think he'll be at his best, possibly instead of Gini?

      Either way, you're right, done and dusted now. The only way is up for him.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #164: Sep 23, 2017 08:36:45 pm
      Looked dangerous when he came on. I think he's going to be excellent
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      Reply #165: Sep 24, 2017 12:14:03 am
      I guess it's the curse of the LFC #21; he has to do it the hard way to get accepted.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #166: Sep 24, 2017 01:10:04 am
      I thought he nearly fu**ed it for us today in that last few seconds with that high boot. If we had of conceded from that free kick, think this topic would have had more then just 6 pages!
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      Reply #167: Sep 27, 2017 09:32:47 pm
      No sign of Chamberlain last night.
      When we could have been doing with fresh attacking options.
      Maybe he's still 'trying to hard' in training?!
      Can only assume that Klopp has seen no improvement on what we saw with our own eyes.

      Lot of money spent. Finger out lad...
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      Reply #168: Sep 29, 2017 03:00:25 pm
      I want to see him Sunday in the mid field. Overall our midfield has been lacking this season. We will probably rest a few guys so why not see what we have? I rather see him there than on the wing.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #169: Sep 30, 2017 01:02:25 pm
      DId we really sign a 40m bench warmer?
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      Reply #170: Sep 30, 2017 02:15:43 pm
      DId we really sign a 40m bench warmer?

      Could be doing with him going from frog to prince sharpish.

      Can't understand why we critisise players like Can and Hendo week in week out, guys who are actually good enough to be in the first XI, while we have a bloke we spent 40MILL on flying under the radar, keeping schtum on the bench.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #171: Oct 01, 2017 06:32:15 pm
      Should just change his kit number to 87.
      What's the point of paying so much for someone who only plays 5 minutes each game? Loads of half-decent CBs could have been bought for that much money.
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      Reply #172: Oct 01, 2017 06:41:47 pm
      40M white elephant, when lallana is fit, won't be near first XI
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      Reply #173: Oct 02, 2017 11:18:04 pm
      I hear u all, and I'm ain't saying you're wrong. But don't you want to see him in the mid field before you just assume he sucks something awful? At this point resting Gini has to be in the forefront of everyone's mind. Why not see what the Ox can do in his preferred position?
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      Reply #174: Oct 02, 2017 11:27:08 pm
      I hear u all, and I'm ain't saying you're wrong. But don't you want to see him in the mid field before you just assume he sucks something awful? At this point resting Gini has to be in the forefront of everyone's mind. Why not see what the Ox can do in his preferred position?

      You should ask Jürgen that.. he doesn't seem too eager to play him there.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #175: Oct 02, 2017 11:35:05 pm
      I hear u all, and I'm ain't saying you're wrong. But don't you want to see him in the mid field before you just assume he sucks something awful? At this point resting Gini has to be in the forefront of everyone's mind. Why not see what the Ox can do in his preferred position?

      The squad is top heavy in forwards and attacking mids. (Not strikers)
      Alex is the last player we needed in the summer.
      Not his fault, but he's on the bench because we didn't really need him.
      He's taking up bench space for Woodburn, who should now be on loan.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #176: Oct 03, 2017 10:56:27 am
      I've made no secret of the fact I really like the Ox, think he'll be a top player. Given his lack of minutes though I'm starting to be a little concerned, surely he's not a TC signing at 40 million quid?

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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #177: Oct 03, 2017 05:09:49 pm
      I've made no secret of the fact I really like the Ox, think he'll be a top player. Given his lack of minutes though I'm starting to be a little concerned, surely he's not a TC signing at 40 million quid?
      he turned our season around. We were good now we're sh*te
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #178: Oct 03, 2017 05:32:46 pm
      he turned our season around. We were good now we're sh*te

      How did he do that by not playing?
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #179: Oct 04, 2017 12:24:01 am
      he turned our season around. We were good now we're sh*te

      You could apply the same logic to Coutinho.

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