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      Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      bazspeedman
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #600: Oct 01, 2017 06:29:38 pm
      We were doing OK when his back was 'injured'.

      Just leaving that thought here...

      Yes we were but we weren't sh*t then.
      redindian
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #601: Oct 01, 2017 06:29:44 pm
      That was crap. How come every defensive mistake by us turns into a goal while every defensive mistake by the opposition is squandered.

      There was a turn in fortunes after the last international break. Let's hope there is a turn in fortunes after this international break.
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #602: Oct 01, 2017 06:29:47 pm
      Players were inept but Klopp to blame for the defence here two years and we've gon backwards
      Tadders
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #603: Oct 01, 2017 06:29:58 pm
      I am beginning to think arsenal was the highlight of this season
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #604: Oct 01, 2017 06:30:28 pm

      Yes. The system of ball possession itself is OK, I mean look at ManCity, but you need to create more havoc in the box: vertical passes, one on one, double passes, crosses. I count 3 high probability chances (without Couthino's goal), but that's too little over 90min, esp. if your defense sucks. We'd need about 10!
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #605: Oct 01, 2017 06:30:30 pm
      That drained the life out of me. Dreary game, Coutinho's goal the only touch of class.
      Newcastle limitied, but were well organised in defense and they stifled the game. And we weren't good enough to break them down :(
      Didn't have a lot to do at the back, and leaked the customary goal.
      We didn't lift it in the 2nd half.
      Another important 2 points dropped.
      Shaking my head here, just not good enough.
      bazspeedman
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #606: Oct 01, 2017 06:31:16 pm
      We should be relishing the Mancs game in a fortnight not dreading it.
      5timesacharm
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #607: Oct 01, 2017 06:31:19 pm
      Groundhog day.
      Rush Goalie
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #608: Oct 01, 2017 06:31:46 pm
      That was crap. How come every defensive mistake by us turns into a goal while every defensive mistake by the opposition is squandered.

      There was a turn in fortunes after the last international break. Let's hope there is a turn in fortunes after this international break.

      Yeah, every single game this is happening now.
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #609: Oct 01, 2017 06:31:48 pm
      Yes we were but we weren't sh*t then.

      That's what I'm saying, may be he's the reason.
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #610: Oct 01, 2017 06:32:12 pm
      Top 4 quality? I don't think so.

      We can be so poor at scoring goals. We can't score goals.

      When we are scoring well, we are also conceding so well. Ugly.

      Watford: Draw
      Sevilla: Draw
      Burnley: Draw
      Spartak: Draw
      Newcastle: Draw

      This is so annoying  :f_steam: :f_wah: :mad:

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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #611: Oct 01, 2017 06:33:46 pm
      Want good enough as a whole. I think we need to re-evaluate our perception that we have the best attack in the league! We clearly don't folks! Utd and City would've hammered that piss poor Newcastle team.
      Our defence (as per usual cost us 3 points, thanks Jürgen 👍) but our attack is as toothless as f**k. 2 shots on target? F**k that!
      LFCbronx
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #612: Oct 01, 2017 06:34:09 pm
      1 win in what 7 now?

      ManU coming after the break, I cannot see anyway we can win that game , honestly.

      As I puke a little at the thought

      Our entire offensive plan has degraded down to hoping Coutinho can nail a 20 yarder. Painfully predictable in attack, and as usual at least one MAJOR f**k up from our D every match. We start every game needing 2 to win.

      But we didn't need any CBs , right?  Not one CB in all of Europe that would have improved the squad? 
      Spend 40 million on Ox to sit on the bench 80 minutes, why did we need him? 

      GK situation is fine , yeah?

      Harrisimo
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #613: Oct 01, 2017 06:34:23 pm
      Not good enough. Yes it's relatively early but it's not top 4 form is it. If it wasn't for Coutinho we'd be up that brown creek.
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #614: Oct 01, 2017 06:34:49 pm
      We should be relishing the Mancs game in a fortnight not dreading it.

      Imagine Lukaku running at our defense, right?  ;D
      KS67
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #615: Oct 01, 2017 06:34:57 pm

      Well, what do you expect after 7 years of Groundhog Windows?

      Nothing serious will change while these owners are around.
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #616: Oct 01, 2017 06:35:15 pm
      Hopefully Firmino can be a super sub.

      Oh dear. Turns out he wasn't a super sub.

      In PL, Firmino has played 472 minutes (5.24 full games) and scored 2 goals. 236 minutes per goal.

      In PL, Sturridge has played 265 minutes (2.94 full games) and scored 1 goal. 265 minutes per goal.

      Not much in that is there?

      Firmino has had 6 starts. Sturridge 2. Liverpool are said to be far more energetic and threatening at the start of the games, so advantage to Firmino there. Coming on as a sub (as demonstrated today) can be tough going.

      Firmino has now gone 223 minutes without a goal. Sturridge is on 189 minutes without a goal.

      Look at the stats and stop your obsessive and exaggerated agenda.

      Sturridge needs game time to get rythmn. The goals will come - unfortunately, his game time won't. Firmino is not the goal machine you want to pretend he is. He's had far more chances than Danny, and nothing much more to show for it. Mane and Salah were equally wasteful today - but Sturridge is the target. Quelle surprise.  ;D

      sore monad
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #617: Oct 01, 2017 06:37:07 pm
      It's like watching exactly the same game over and over again. It's starting to feel slightly uncanny.

      The pattern every time:

      We dominate the first half, playing pretty good football;

      We waste several great opportunities with an overhit final ball, or a poor piece of decision making;

      Coutinho gets us a goal;

      We gift the opposition a goal out of nothing;

      We fade in the second half, struggle to get the pass and move football of the first half back;

      We still create a couple of golden chances, which we miss;

      We finish the game hanging on for the draw and looking panicky, rather than laying siege to the ( in terms of personnel) significantly weaker opposition.

      We get a point from a game we should have got 3.
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #618: Oct 01, 2017 06:37:35 pm
      Oh dear. Turns out he wasn't a super sub.

      In PL, Firmino has played 472 minutes (5.24 full games) and scored 2 goals. 236 minutes per goal.

      In PL, Sturridge has played 265 minutes (2.94 full games) and scored 1 goal. 265 minutes per goal.

      Not much in that is there?

      Firmino has had 6 starts. Sturridge 2. Liverpool are said to be far more energetic and threatening at the start of the games, so advantage to Firmino there. Coming on as a sub (as demonstrated today) can be tough going.

      Firmino has now gone 223 minutes without a goal. Sturridge is on 189 minutes without a goal.

      Look at the stats and stop your obsessive and exaggerated agenda.

      Sturridge needs game time to get rythmn. The goals will come - unfortunately, his game time won't. Firmino is not the goal machine you want to pretend he is. He's had far more chances than Danny, and nothing much more to show for it. Mane and Salah were equally wasteful today - but Sturridge is the target. Quelle surprise.  ;D

      You watched that game and now came out with this pile of sh*t?
      Sturridge is done, accept it and move on. Couldn't even beat the offside trap to save his life.
      redindian
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #619: Oct 01, 2017 06:37:54 pm
      The whole front 3 was crap.
      Sturridge w*nk. Similar performance to the Burnley game.
      Mane crap
      Salah - dear oh dear. Does he have lead on his foot? How poor were his touches?
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #620: Oct 01, 2017 06:38:18 pm
      We should be relishing the Mancs game in a fortnight not dreading it.

      If we weren't playing like sh*t we probably would!
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #621: Oct 01, 2017 06:38:38 pm
      You watched that game and now came out with this pile of sh*t?
      Sturridge is done, accept it and move on. Couldn't even beat the offside trap to save his life.

      I watched the game.

      I watched the discussion here, and then came out with those facts.

      Sorry it doesn't fit the nonsense here.
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      Re: LIVE: Newcastle v Liverpool - October 1st 16:30 GMT
      Reply #622: Oct 01, 2017 06:42:02 pm
      I watched the game.

      I watched the discussion here, and then came out with those facts.

      Sorry it doesn't fit the nonsense here.

      Did you see how fu**ed he was in the second half. He would likely get injured playing two full games in a row. It's best for him and best for everybody else that he only comes off the bench.
      SM
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #623: Oct 01, 2017 06:46:14 pm
      Solanke looked sharper than Sturridge.

      Gini again was no where nor was Hendo unless you count some nice 5 yard square passes.

      Ox/Solanke must be worth a go soon not sure if the Manc game is the right one though but f**k me they can't do any worse can they?
      sore monad
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      Re: Newcastle United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #624: Oct 01, 2017 06:47:10 pm
      The whole front 3 was crap.
      Sturridge w*nk. Similar performance to the Burnley game.
      Mane crap
      Salah - dear oh dear. Does he have lead on his foot? How poor were his touches?

      I thought Salah played pretty well.

      Sturridge and Mane were poor though.

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