We need to talk about Henderson...

So does he get picked for our next game?

Yep i can see him getting picked with either Milner or Gini having a rest - all depends on what happens over the international break

Yep i can see him getting picked with either Milner or Gini having a rest - all depends on what happens over the international break

Have to be Gini in that case given Milner wont be playing internationals.

Yep i can see him getting picked with either Milner or Gini having a rest - all depends on what happens over the international break

Would you rather have Henderson starting than Milner or Wijnaldum based on the game today, if so WHY???

Would you rather have Henderson starting than Milner or Wijnaldum based on the game today, if so WHY???

The season isn’t based on one game , judging players isn’t based on one game - Far too many reactionary people these days - we win a game 4 out of 4 and some people appear to just want to carry on sticking the knife in because they don’t like a player - I have no problems with Henderson playing any game for us because I think he is a great player for us and is highly valued by our manager - Gini looked a bit leggy today and I suspect will get a rest for the next game so Henderson , Milner and Keita will start

Don't think Henderson was as big a problem as some are making him out to be. Gini was far worse today.

The season isn’t based on one game , judging players isn’t based on one game - Far too many reactionary people these days - we win a game 4 out of 4 and some people appear to just want to carry on sticking the knife in because they don’t like a player - I have no problems with Henderson playing any game for us because I think he is a great player for us and is highly valued by our manager - Gini looked a bit leggy today and I suspect will get a rest for the next game so Henderson , Milner and Keita will start

My opinion is based on hundreds of performances where he has only shown Liverpool quality in around a dozen.

My opinion is based on hundreds of performances where he has only shown Liverpool quality in around a dozen.

And that’s your opinion - mine is different about we are all entitled to one - right now it appears the manager has an opinion that means Henderson is club captain and will play a lot of games for us

Your bringing up this thread as the game just smacks of vindictiveness - we won the game , Henderson played his part and gave a decent performance ( he isn’t ever going to be spectacular) and there were players who played worse out there - I suspect you are waiting to post on threads about them or is it just Henderson

And that’s your opinion - mine is different about we are all entitled to one - right now it appears the manager has an opinion that means Henderson is club captain and will play a lot of games for us

That must be why Henderson got hooked in the game today and why as soon as Keita came on we regained a lot more control.

He's still getting back to full fitness, and was nowhere near as bad as the agenda merchants are trying to make out.

The bigger problem was the 2 players in front of him, with confused movement, sloppy passing and dropping too deep.

Wijnaldum got skinned a couple of times when he came deep and Henderson pushed up, and showed that he's not ready to play the role against a team that puts real pressure on him, which isn't a major problem as he's still learning the position.

No doubt we'll see the same sh*t posted by the same people all season long.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean others have to agree with it or value it.

His performance today is sub par to where he was at last season. Leicester was pressing high today, and we didn't need sloppy and tight passes at the back. There was hardly and forward passes.

The goal we conceded gave both VVD and Gomez unnecessary pressure leading to the bad backpass to Alisson. Sure they could've booted it out, but a pass to an open player (i.e. Mane) and we wouldn't have that. Mane was open from the Milner pass, hendo had his back too many times to the wrong goal this game.

https://streamja.com/aNO2

Anyways, hope our captain finds his peak form.

That must be why Henderson got hooked in the game today and why as soon as Keita came on we regained a lot more control.

Or Henderson is still getting back to full fitness and when he was replaced Keita up higher provided a better outlet than Gini who didn’t have a great game but then we won 2-1 and I’m not sure what a witch hunt is trying to achieve

Or Henderson is still getting back to full fitness and when he was replaced Keita up higher provided a better outlet than Gini who didn’t have a great game but then we won 2-1 and I’m not sure what a witch hunt is trying to achieve

So Henderson isn't fully fit, but he started today? On what merit is he not fully fit? World cup was months ago, he's been training, getting minutes and started today. Not fully fit must be code for played sh*te. If that's what you mean I agree.

Or Henderson is still getting back to full fitness and when he was replaced Keita up higher provided a better outlet than Gini who didn’t have a great game but then we won 2-1 and I’m not sure what a witch hunt is trying to achieve

If he is not fit, we would have seen a perfect 45 mins then it drops but he was average from 1st second. Wasn't the worst but nothing over 5.5 or 6 from 10.

His performance today is sub par to where he was at last season. Leicester was pressing high today, and we didn't need sloppy and tight passes at the back. There was hardly and forward passes.

The goal we conceded gave both VVD and Gomez unnecessary pressure leading to the bad backpass to Alisson. Sure they could've booted it out, but a pass to an open player (i.e. Mane) and we wouldn't have that. Mane was open from the Milner pass, hendo had his back too many times to the wrong goal this game.

https://streamja.com/aNO2

Anyways, hope our captain finds his peak form.

Missed that. There's no excuses for the two backpasses there from Henderson. Two bad decisions that just add more to the stereotype about him doing that nonsense.

So Henderson isn't fully fit, but he started today? On what merit is he not fully fit? World cup was months ago, he's been training, getting minutes and started today. Not fully fit must be code for played sh*te. If that's what you mean I agree.

You do know it takes players different times to get up to “full match fitness” and Henderson and other players are just about getting there - Firmino is still off it a little , even AA at times is a bit leggy. I’m sure you are smart lad and can understand the concept of match fitness. By continuing to blurt out that the World Cup finished months ago I guess you are struggling to understand the fact that some players returned to training a significant amount of time after others - some 4 weeks after the start of pre season .

Your witch hunt is a bit embarrassing- im guessing you are still a prepubescent teenager because surely a grown adult wouldn’t act like that

You do know it takes players different times to get up to “full match fitness” and Henderson and other players are just about getting there - Firmino is still off it a little , even AA at times is a bit leggy. I’m sure you are smart lad and can understand the concept of match fitness. By continuing to blurt out that the World Cup finished months ago I guess you are struggling to understand the fact that some players returned to training a significant amount of time after others - some 4 weeks after the start of pre season .

Your witch hunt is a bit embarrassing- im guessing you are still a prepubescent teenager because surely a grown adult wouldn’t act like that

here we go, personal insults because Hendo is not upto standard and you've ran out of excuses for Henderson. Classic smokescreen tactics.

here we go, personal insults because Hendo is not upto standard and you've ran out of excuses for Henderson. Classic smokescreen tactics.

Why do i need to find excuses ? You don’t rate him - oh well thankfully unless I’m not mistaken it doesn’t really matter what we think - what matters is what the manager thinks and it appears he disagrees with you and will play Henderson

Christ we are four games into the season and have won all four - maybe it’s a modern phenomenon because to me it’s frankly pathetic for people to be looking to create negativity about a squad that looks really good and has a great chance of bringing home trophies. Thankfully though the players are a tight knit bunch and are there for each other - shame can’t be said about some of the fans

Why do i need to find excuses ? You don’t rate him - oh well thankfully unless I’m not mistaken it doesn’t really matter what we think - what matters is what the manager thinks and it appears he disagrees with you and will play Henderson

Christ we are four games into the season and have won all four - maybe it’s a modern phenomenon because to me it’s frankly pathetic for people to be looking to create negativity about a squad that looks really good and has a great chance of bringing home trophies. Thankfully though the players are a tight knit bunch and are there for each other - shame can’t be said about some of the fans

I wouldn't bother getting into it to be honest.

It's one of those things that has happened for years, this scapegoating, and some always find a need to single out a player then bang on about him, no matter how well he plays.
It used to be Lucas, then when he left, it changed to Henderson.
They completely ignore the fact that Klopp rates him, and praises him an awful lot, and that every manager has had him in the team, including England managers.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm with Klopp; we win as a team, we lose as a team, but above all else, we're a team, and that includes the fans.
It's only a pity some don't deserve it.

Got to admit he was diabolical today, maybe he is not match fit and it doesn't help having Milner alongside but as soon as Leicester realised pressing Henderson would reap rewards we were a train wreck in midfield.

Got to admit he was diabolical today, maybe he is not match fit and it doesn't help having Milner alongside but as soon as Leicester realised pressing Henderson would reap rewards we were a train wreck in midfield.

Yeah. Every man and his dog should know that when Hendo plays, you press. I also noticed he got by passed very easily a few times. However, I don't think it was all his fault, the midfield as a collective was disappointing, but that was due to it being unbalanced for me.

It was pretty much the same old midfield we have seen last few seasons under Klopp. I would have thought buying Fabinho and Keita, with Wijnaldum playing as the 6 too, we wouldn't see an unbalanced midfield ever again!

Henderson IS fit enough. He got the nod over Keita today. He wasn't that bad today. Fact is Leicester took the game away from us and they deserve great credit for that. We had to stick at it despite the Allison blunder.

So what he took off Hendo. He also took off our top goalscorer. Nothing to get worked up about. As long as Allison puts a sock in it all in all, to get away with the 3 points was a great result. Move on.

The problem he seems to have is an inability to shield the ball and turn with it to play a forward pass. Lucas could do it, Gini does it but Jordan can't.  This indirectly led to the goal we conceded today. He couldn't turn as usual so thumped a bad pass to Gomez I think who was under pressure and had to fizz it to big Virg and the damage was done.

If he is not fit, we would have seen a perfect 45 mins then it drops but he was average from 1st second. Wasn't the worst but nothing over 5.5 or 6 from 10.

I would have thought that having played in the WC, he would have been fitter that those who just sunned thier self on the beaches this summer.... Fatigued maybe, but sorry I am not buying the whole lack of fitness thing