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      AussieRed
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #600: Oct 22, 2017 05:52:10 pm
      F***ing sh*t
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #601: Oct 22, 2017 05:52:22 pm
      Spanked by City and now Spuds.

      Top 4 looking very difficult this season, transfer window was s complete disaster.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #602: Oct 22, 2017 05:53:09 pm
      Not with our board.

      With our board Big Sam is the man.

      :lmao:
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #603: Oct 22, 2017 05:53:41 pm
      That's the only positive that can come from today, if Jürgen finally draws a line under their LFC careers, both don't deserve to start another game for us this season. They will though, which is the bigger worry.
      It is too late for Klopp now. He turned the fan base on himself
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #604: Oct 22, 2017 05:53:43 pm
      Can we play Everton quickly ?
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #605: Oct 22, 2017 05:53:49 pm
      12 points behind City after 9 games. Difference of 30 on GD.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #606: Oct 22, 2017 05:53:56 pm
      Was pretty obvious after the summer. The owners have definitely just written this year off since Keita didn't come off.



      Don't be surprised if Keita has changed his mind.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #607: Oct 22, 2017 05:54:06 pm
      Tottenham didn't even play that well, we made it easier by giving them individual errors. Again.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #608: Oct 22, 2017 05:54:22 pm
      When was the last time that second way succeeded? We won't slowly improve every year because our best players will want to play for the best teams. So you'll get Mascherano, Torres, Suarez, Sterling, Coutinho, all asking to leave.

      I'm not saying we should sack Klopp, as unhappy as I am with him at this moment, I don't think that's the answer. But if we don't change how things operate at LFC then we have little chance of consistent success in the near future.

      Alonso too
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #609: Oct 22, 2017 05:54:36 pm
      Time for the excuses to stop. All hugely paid blokes and it's time they had some very honest conversations there.

      Think a few are becoming very cosy at Anfield. Mediocrity should not be tolerated and rewarded.

      At the bigger clubs Klopp would have got the boot by now but we are not in any position to be sacking a name like his with not much chance of any better wanting to take this job on.

      Listen we've dished out a few hidings to these so i'll take this on the chin. In general though we look poor.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #610: Oct 22, 2017 05:54:44 pm
      When AIA signed a long term sponsorship with Spurs we know they sees Spurs with ambition not Liverpool and AIA is not stupid. Simple as that. I hope FSG would sell the club take the money then feck off.
      « Last Edit: Oct 22, 2017 06:03:43 pm by redkop63 »
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #611: Oct 22, 2017 05:54:45 pm
      The is still the FA cup..........
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #612: Oct 22, 2017 05:54:52 pm
      Don't be surprised if Keita has changed his mind.
      Keita will have a get out clause, which is exactly why I said pointless signing.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #613: Oct 22, 2017 05:55:08 pm
      We are now starting to pay the price for a sh*t poor transfer window this summer...
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #614: Oct 22, 2017 05:55:38 pm
      Don't worry I imagine one of the players will be in the press tomorrow telling us that they will learn from this!!
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #615: Oct 22, 2017 05:55:41 pm
      OK so Spurs have now definitely lost any remaining issue they had with playing at Wembley, we saw to that today, so I expect them to kick on and cement a place in the top 3 which means we are battling about 6 teams for the 4th spot, Chelsea and Arsenal being the main 2. Lets be honest here, unless we miraculously learn to defend we just aren't going to get it this season, so I'd rather we write the league off and start playing the youngsters, get them experienced and ready for next season when we have hopefully finally bought some bloody defenders and a goalie and perhaps some players who know how to score!!
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #616: Oct 22, 2017 05:55:58 pm
      Silly thing is that spuds didn't really have to work hard for any of the goals, they were all born out out of mistakes by our players. It's gonna be a long season. We've got 6th place written all over us this year and then we'll struggle to fend off suitors for Coutinho and Mane come the summer. Eat sleep rave repeat.

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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #617: Oct 22, 2017 05:56:16 pm
      It will be an insult if Lovren & Mignolet played another game for Liverpool.
      Sh*t. Every. F***ing. Time. 
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #618: Oct 22, 2017 05:56:30 pm
      How much blame is on Klopp? Today was Lovern and Migs. But he keeps putting them in. He only went after one CB and then he tapped him up. He believes in his style to a fault and won't change. He wants to score goals more than he wants to defend and it shows. When do we demand better from him?
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #619: Oct 22, 2017 05:56:44 pm

      Oh I feel confident we'll be able to lose somehow giving them the confidence they need to start playing well.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #620: Oct 22, 2017 05:56:56 pm
      It is too late for Klopp now. He turned the fan base on himself

      You want to turn on him, that's your choice.

      You'd be wrong to but you've got some ammunition now so go right ahead and make your case.

      I'll tell you now that he'll turn this around, top 4 will be tough this season but I still fancy us to get there. That, imo, was our toughest remaining away fixture but we need to cut out the individual mistakes and that is much harder than it sounds.

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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #621: Oct 22, 2017 05:57:13 pm
      Shambles at the back, had good chances up front but their keeper was the difference a lot of great saves denied us .
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #622: Oct 22, 2017 05:58:44 pm
      That's literally like saying we used to have Suarez who was our best goal scorer and now we don't.
      More concerned about what we have right now than what we used to have because this is f**king shambolic

      Yeah, fully agree with you, but you don't ship out players without a replacement. If you don't need a replacement, why the f**k where they there in the first place ? And yes, it is f**king shambolic, and what we have here is sh*te, from the keeper, across the back, and right through the middle. But still we amble on with them and they were sh*te last year as well.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #623: Oct 22, 2017 05:59:04 pm
      We had no luck and then bad luck got around. :)

      Anybody here knowing a site with detailed stats, like not only shots on target, but their quality? We look pathetic on defense, but not much better on offense.

      I also expect Migs to get axed by Klopp very soon.
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      Re: Spurs 4-1 Liverpool: In game and Post match discussion
      Reply #624: Oct 22, 2017 05:59:32 pm
      Liverpool 7 shots on target, Spurs 6.
      Liverpool 1 Spurs 4.


      We gave all four goals away.
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      Re: Spurs 4-1 Liverpool: In game and Post match discussion
      Reply #625: Oct 22, 2017 06:01:06 pm
      That was the bleakest 90 minutes of football I've seen under Jürgen.

      If he doesn't act decisively and ruthlessly from here on then he's not got long at this club. His tolerance of people like Mignolet, Lovren and Can for this long is, sadly, right at the heart of this result. And how have they repaid his blind faith in them? Like that.

      Awful, awful, awful afternoon.

      Come on Jürgen. Stand up!
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      Re: Spurs 4-1 Liverpool: In game and Post match discussion
      Reply #626: Oct 22, 2017 06:01:24 pm
      You want to turn on him, that's your choice.

      You'd be wrong to but you've got some ammunition now so go right ahead and make your case.

      I'll tell you now that he'll turn this around, top 4 will be tough this season but I still fancy us to get there. That, imo, was our toughest remaining away fixture but we need to cut out the individual mistakes and that is much harder than it sounds.



      The difference is that Manure had a tough away fixture against us but got a draw, yes they played sh*t boring football but didn't get humiliated and give opponents a huge boost. Today was utter f**king garbage from us, the lads will be demoralised, if they aren't then they don't give a sh*t, which is probably even more worrying.
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #627: Oct 22, 2017 06:02:31 pm
      Time for the excuses to stop. All hugely paid blokes and it's time they had some very honest conversations there.

      Think a few are becoming very cosy at Anfield. Mediocrity should not be tolerated and rewarded.

      At the bigger clubs Klopp would have got the boot by now but we are not in any position to be sacking a name like his with not much chance of any better wanting to take this job on.

      Listen we've dished out a few hidings to these so i'll take this on the chin. In general though we look poor.


      As I've said time and again, the fatherly figure of Klopp is his own worst enemy. Players making mistakes week after week and not trying hard enough or not good enough kept their place week after week and everything is well forgotten what happened last week. So, there's no fear there for the players. This is the end result. Say, what we like about Benitez, he has this arm's length with the players and  he turned average players to above average players. I am beginning to doubt Klopp while the owners I have classified as a hopeless lot 5 years ago.

      I would think only 3 players would survive from the Shankly's and Paisley's era :
      Mane
      Cou and
      Salah

      Klopp is simply wasting time with average players.


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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #628: Oct 22, 2017 06:02:34 pm

      After 4 transfer windows, consistently predictable tactics, persistent poor game management and being blind to the obvious.... i'll say 100%. Winning the next 10 games will not change my opinion... HE HAS FAILED (Unless success means keeping us in top 10)
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      Re: LIVE: Tottenham v Liverpool - October 22nd 16.00 GMT
      Reply #629: Oct 22, 2017 06:03:28 pm
      That was an absolute disgrace and basically, we learn once again (for the millionth time?) that we won't win a thing with that back four. Game after game they let us down. 5 goals at city. 4 at Spurs. If we get out of our CL group I fear we could be embarrassed more in Madrid or Barcelona.

      Klopp has been here long enough to address our defence and he hasn't. I don't need hundreds of football qualifications to know that dejan lovren isn't good enough for liverpool fc. So why is he STILL playing week in, week out? He should have been sold years ago and somebody who actually is good enough should have been signed. I already disliked Lovren with a strong passion but after that shambolic display I never want to see him in a liverpool shirt ever again. If klopp does persist with him and we continue to lose games then he deserves the sack. He is a f**king liability and a disgrace to tbe shirt.

      He's not the only one though. It's time to be ruthless and strip Henderson of that armband. Drop him. When the going gets tough and you need your senior players, your leaders, to stand up and be counted where the f**k is that shithouse? When has he EVER grabbed a game by the scruff of the neck? I've had it with him as well. If we want to win trophies we need a better captain and a better midfielder than Jordan Henderson.

      Why is mignolet still here? He has been here for 4/5 seasons now and has been our number 1 for all of that time. He is bottom half of the league standard. Look at all of the other keepers in the teams above us and then compare them to mignolet. It's laughable.

      I could rant forever after that. It was abysmal. I'm fuming with 7/8 of them and I'm fuming with klopp. Salah, coutinho looked like they were having a go to be fair but the rest of them can f**k off after that.

      Absolutely fuming. Embarsssed. Pissed off. Gutted. Upset. F***ing raging.

      F***ing piss poor that. Too many shithouses in this club and I'm f**king sick of it now.

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