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      Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm

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      With the fall out from Tuesdays game still lingering around the forum I thought it best that I start my first match thread of the season and blow the cobwebs away and move on.

      I'm surprised Chelsea didn't insist on a Sunday fixture with it being only three days after their CL game compared to our four days.

      Will that make a difference to Conte and his team selection? probably not.
      Thing is, what selection will Jürgen go with for this one?
      Does he stick with Moreno at left back or will he put Robertson back in the frame?
      Mignolet for Karius?
      Will Lallana play his first game this season? if so who pays the price?
      Will Matip be fit and replace Lovren?

      Our front three have been on fire and I'm pretty certain Mo Salah will have a point to prove to his previous employer.

      We've been blessed with some fine performances against sh*te teams lately, namely West ham, Southampton, Huddesfield but this one is going to be completely different.
      Chelsea are beatable, we know that but they will pose a problem for us, the like of which we haven't had since the Spurs game.
      The thought of Lovren trying to keep tabs on Morata and Moreno tackling Hazard gives me palpatations.

      My head says this has got a 0-0 written all over it.
      My heart see's Mo Salah scoring the winner in a very tight 1-0 victory.



      « Last Edit: Nov 24, 2017 12:57:23 pm by JD »
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #1 : Nov 23, 2017 09:47:21 pm »
      At home we need to win this, considering:

      1) We have (almost) all on board,
      2) We have something to prove (Sevilla!)
      3) We look sharper overall than 4 weeks ago, at least offensively.
      4) They had a day less to prepare and have to travel.
      5) This is not Chelsea of last season, they are still very good but not supergood anymore.

      1-0 or 2-1.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #2 : Nov 23, 2017 09:55:58 pm »
       Well Stringer, your bang on with that assessment. Who will Klopp select, and how will they perform. Wish I knew before i enter my prediction, but as its Liverpool, performance is anyones guess, and as its Klopp, so is the selection.
      I'm all for giving Robertson a run of games, think Lallana will come off the bench for Hendo, who I expect will start, and i'm praying Matip is fit for this one. If not, why can't TAA start at RB and Gomez go in the middle with Klaven. Also, can't see why Karius isn't given a run of games. It's clear he commands his box better than Migs, and is quicker off his line. His distribution is clearly a step up as well.
      Think Millie should get a start in the middle, in stead of the lumbering Can. Not sure he fully committed now. Seems to be going through the motions and just avoiding injury.
      If only I was the manager..... :f_whistle:
      Still think we're capable of a 2-0 win if we get it right on the day, and just as susceptible to a 4 - 0 bashing. :f_doh:
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #3 : Nov 23, 2017 10:58:20 pm »
      Looks like Matip will be ok for this, TAA will probably come in for Gomez and hopefully Robertson gets a game.

      I have a feeling Lallana might start, Can should play the 6 role but no way Klopp will drop Henderson so I imagine it's between Coutinho and Gini for that final midfield slot.

      Front 3 pick themselves.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #4 : Nov 23, 2017 11:30:25 pm »
      Would like to see Robertson get this test. Willian will run rings around Alberto, he's one of the most underrated players in the league.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #5 : Nov 23, 2017 11:32:51 pm »
      Expect to see Milner at LB IMO. Robertson can't get a game to save his life.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #6 : Nov 23, 2017 11:35:10 pm »
      If you look at the way Chelsea will probably line up.. and i say probably only because this was the team that put three past West Brom by half time and put Tony Pulis in the bin ;

      Courtois ; Christensen, Cahill, Azpilicueta ; Zappacosta , Kante , Fabregas, Bakayoko, Alonso ; Hazard, Morata.

      Subs: Drinkwater , Pedro , Willian .

      We have plenty in our locker to beat this lot man for man, it's stopping Hazard and Morata that we have to get a grip of.
      Whoever plays right back, Gomez or TAA, they have to be aware of Alonso and stop him playing his game.
      Hazard is such a difficult player to man mark and he's a very clever little player sh*t who will go down at the slightest touch so the likes of Emre Can,Milner and Henderson need to win the ball if they challenge him otherwise they'll be carrying a yellow for the rest of the game which is not good.

      Saying all that..Bobby, Mo and Mane just need to just attack them from the kick off..they're all capable of scoring a goal each on Saturday without a doubt..
      For me the game will be won in midfield and it's in games like this that Coutinho and Lallana can show their worth.

      You never know.. we could be 3-0 up at half time ! then what ? ;D

      Either way we are playing the current Premier League champions.. a scalp we need right now.





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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #7 : Nov 24, 2017 12:04:58 am »
      This is gonna be tough. Bunch of cu*ts!
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #8 : Nov 24, 2017 02:56:48 am »
      Struggled to remember the last time we beat these racist wankers at Anfield in the league. Done them a few times at that sh*t hole of a home in recent years. Think it might have been 7 years ago under Hodgson when Torres did a smash and grab over them. Before then I'm thinking back to that 2009 fixture when Lampard got red and a couple of years before that when Pennant smashed one in from outside the box. I seriously think that since the millennium we can count on one hand the number of times we've beaten the Chavs at Anfield. Need to start putting these bas**rds to the sword at home starting on Saturday. Won't accept anything less...especially after Tuesday night.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #9 : Nov 24, 2017 04:46:35 am »
      If fit, Matip to play with TAA (pace needed against Hazard) and Karius in defence.

      Coutinho in midfield.

      Bob, Mane and Salah up top.

      The rest...who really cares. It's like flipping a coin whether they're gonna perform or not.

      Just win :)
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #10 : Nov 24, 2017 05:15:16 am »
      Salah looked a little jaded against Sevilla... maybe an appearance from the bench to kill his previous team?

                      Karius
          Gomez Matip Klavan
      Oxlade    Hendo    Moreno
              Lallana   Couts
                      Mane
                    Firmino

      It’s 5am so sorry for the strange team, just looking at different ways... you can always drop Moreno back then to make a back four with Gomez at RB, pushing Ox into midfield and replacing Lallana with Salah on 60... having the last 30 at our usual 4-3-3, Can for Couts and Studge for Firmino at whatever time... maybe better left for Fifa though  :D
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #11 : Nov 24, 2017 06:30:30 am »
      If we can play with the same skill and energy as we did in the first half at Seville we can thrash Chelsea.No surrender and definitely NO MORENO.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #12 : Nov 24, 2017 08:03:30 am »
      If we can play with the same skill and energy as we did in the first half at Seville we can thrash Chelsea.No surrender and definitely NO MORENO.


      First half v Sevilla no thanks we had no control which carried on into the second half and we're lucky they missed some absolute sitters.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #13 : Nov 24, 2017 08:19:13 am »

      First half v Sevilla no thanks we had no control which carried on into the second half and we're lucky they missed some absolute sitters.


      I would take 3-0 to us at half time any day.How many times have you read on the forum it doesn't matter how we win just win and get the 3 points.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #14 : Nov 24, 2017 08:28:23 am »
      does roberton have to prove that he is prone to catastrophic mistakes every 30 minutes to get a game here?
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #15 : Nov 24, 2017 09:07:38 am »
      I fancy us strongly in this one.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #16 : Nov 24, 2017 10:48:47 am »
      Bound to be a tough game, the Reds always make things more difficult for themselves, against decent opposition. Although maybe a 1 0 win for us tomorrow.
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #17 : Nov 24, 2017 11:02:50 am »
      If we let Fabregas dictate like how we let Banega do so, we're fu**ed.
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      Reply #18 : Nov 24, 2017 01:19:20 pm »
      It's gunna be edge of the seat stuff me thinks.  3-2.  Chavs will come with a win attitude which will hopefully leave space for our quick counters.

      can't wait CMON you redmen!!! :kop5cf8koxp6: :aaliverpoolwz0:

      Stick it to those chavy rent boys,,,
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #19 : Nov 24, 2017 03:02:00 pm »
      Me .......  I'd cause a bit of mischief.

      Mo ... yes he could turn the afterburners on over his previous employers .... but if he does tire as has been mentioned I'd pat Solanke on the head and turn him loose. Or just play Dom anyway.

      Two ex Chavs. Tee Hee.




      Ah what fun !
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      Re: Pre Match chat - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #20 : Nov 24, 2017 03:07:38 pm »
      does roberton have to prove that he is prone to catastrophic mistakes every 30 minutes to get a game here?

      Quite clearly TC thought we need a new LB and Klopp thought he could polish a turd
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #21 : Nov 24, 2017 03:10:54 pm »
      Me .......  I'd cause a bit of mischief.

      Mo ... yes he could turn the afterburners on over his previous employers .... but if he does tire as has been mentioned I'd pat Solanke on the head and turn him loose. Or just play Dom anyway.

      Two ex Chavs. Tee Hee.




      Ah what fun !

      Oooh.

      Are you sat twiddling your moustash as you write that?

      Right up there with the key players from the beano you  🙄
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #22 : Nov 24, 2017 03:14:39 pm »
      Oooh.

      Are you sat twiddling your moustash as you write that?

      Right up there with the key players from the beano you  🙄

      Say what ?

      You on meds or what ?
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #23 : Nov 24, 2017 03:21:18 pm »
      Let's hope we actually play for most of the 90 minutes tomorrow instead of only half a game.

      Reminds me of an interview the legendary Barry Fry gave after a game with his beloved Peterborough.
      He said we played like Juventus in the first half, and Fray Bentus in the second half.

      Think we will just nick this one.
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #24 : Nov 24, 2017 03:38:27 pm »
      Well Stringer, your bang on with that assessment. Who will Klopp select, and how will they perform. Wish I knew before i enter my prediction, but as its Liverpool, performance is anyones guess, and as its Klopp, so is the selection.
      I'm all for giving Robertson a run of games, think Lallana will come off the bench for Hendo, who I expect will start, and i'm praying Matip is fit for this one. If not, why can't TAA start at RB and Gomez go in the middle with Klaven. Also, can't see why Karius isn't given a run of games. It's clear he commands his box better than Migs, and is quicker off his line. His distribution is clearly a step up as well.
      Think Millie should get a start in the middle, in stead of the lumbering Can. Not sure he fully committed now. Seems to be going through the motions and just avoiding injury.
      If only I was the manager..... :f_whistle:
      Still think we're capable of a 2-0 win if we get it right on the day, and just as susceptible to a 4 - 0 bashing. :f_doh:

      IMHO Henderson needs benching but if Can is injured than the only other option is Milner in place of Henderson. But, we know Klopp will play the same as the last PL match. :( Unless, he drops players, how are they going to improve and others get a chance. I really don't understand what has happened to Gruijic and why is Robertson frozen out!

      At home I would play Gini, while away I would play AOC.
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #25 : Nov 24, 2017 04:00:19 pm »
      Hard to say a game between two of the top six in the first half of the season is a must win but this really is a chance for us to show we're back on form domestically after a shaky start and a good chance to show our recent improvement wasn't just because we played a bunch of sh*te teams.

      Wonder if Lallana might come straight in for a start here after a solid week of training? Difficult to say who'd drop out though, don't think a game against Chelsea is the type to be playing both Lallana and Coutinho in the middle.
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      Reply #26 : Nov 24, 2017 04:34:03 pm »
      If we let Fabregas dictate like how we let Banega do so, we're fu**ed.

      Chances is we will. Knowing how hard working is our midfield that got steamrolled time and again and often found strolling instead of putting in the tackles.
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #27 : Nov 24, 2017 04:43:35 pm »
      IMHO Henderson needs benching but if Can is injured than the only other option is Milner in place of Henderson. But, we know Klopp will play the same as the last PL match. :( Unless, he drops players, how are they going to improve and others get a chance. I really don't understand what has happened to Gruijic and why is Robertson frozen out!

      At home I would play Gini, while away I would play AOC.

      Why bother to buy Robertson in the first place and not use him but the calamitous Moreno continues to occupy the spot. Can Robertson any workse than Moreno??? When a player continuously not knowing where the ball is in a melee near our goal that led to important goals conceded time and again, it only means one thing, the player is simply not good enough for this club and Klopp has simply overstretching his man management and over accommodating such permanent weaknesses that may eventually lead to his own downfall. World class managers wouldn't have tolerated that and I'm growing frustrated with Klopp.
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #28 : Nov 24, 2017 04:47:10 pm »
      Sounds like Can is out for this match, but Matip is back in. While I'd like to see Robertson, I"m guessing Klopp plans to use him and a few others (Ox, Milner, Sturridge) in one or both of the next two matches vs. Stoke City and Brighton. So probably:

      Mignolet
      Gomez, Matip, Klavan, Moreno
      Henderson
      Wijnaldum, Coutinho
      Mane, Firmino, Salah
      Subs: Karius, Lovren, TAA, Milner, Ox, Sturridge, Solanke

      And despite Seville, I do like our chances to get three points. Come on boys!
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      Re: Pre Match - Liverpool v Chelsea - Sat 25th Nov 5.30pm
      Reply #29 : Nov 24, 2017 06:11:41 pm »
      On the Kop for this match and we are going to batter these plastic waving southern chavs big time  :laugh: :laugh:

      I can imagine the crowd will be well up for this and hopefully they'll collaspe with the baying crowd on top of the players and they'll freeze with terror  >:D

      Get that defence sorted Jürgen and our front lads will kill these  8)

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