Liverpool 1-1 Neverton: In game and Post Match debate

F**k me.

I thought we had a knee-jerk thread.

Some awful sh*te getting spouted about players and manager tonight.

Some things never change mate.

On the other hand though, the likes of Mane have been contributing so much already this season you would think that at some point they shouldn't feel they need to score more than 3 goals every game to make sure we get the win. At 1-0 up and with Everton having no desire to get out of their own half, it should still have been a comfortable win for us. F**k me, we even fu**ed up at 3-0 up against Sevilla so there's really no indication we wouldn't have fu**ed up if we went 2-0 up today.

Word!

Two issues only
1) mane should have passed
2) ref gave a penalty when it clearly wasn’t.
End of

All bollocks about blaming selection or subs or Lovren are utter rubbish.
We played brilliantly and were none stop from the first to the last whistle.

 
Your wrong about Lovren he gave the ref the opportunity to give the penalty the lad was going nowhere to Lovren has his usual brain fart

The manager got it spot on. We created more than enough to comfortably win but we didn’t. Mane should have passed, etc, etc.
With the chances we created it could have been a result like our last 2 games.
Just now it feels like a defeat.
It should have been so, so much different.

The manager got it spot on. We created more than enough to comfortably win but we didn’t. Mane should have passed, etc, etc.
With the chances we created it could have been a result like our last 2 games.
Just now it feels like a defeat.
It should have been so, so much different.

But like so many times before it wasn't different it was the same old mistakes over again

Absolutely gutted with the result, but thought the performance was good, intensity and workrate was spot on, completely dominated the whole game, played some good football, just the one mistake which we unfortunately have in us, cost us, but we have improved massively compared to a couple of months ago, Gomez and Ox had great games, and Robbo played well again, Salah world class

It's a classic case of play your best starting 11, get a decent sized lead and then rest the likes of Salah & Coutinho. What's annoying is I bet they were rested with the midweek game in mind. He's done it backwards and it's wrong.

You can't play your strongest team consistently when you account for the number of games played these days. It's such a simple English tabloidesque argument the likes of which Danny F***ing Mills would be wanking himself over on Match of the Day. We didn't have Europe last season and when the Christmas period passed we looked thoroughly done for and just about crawled over the line into the CL places. We need a bit more nous in navigating the season this time and Klopp is absolutely correct in his strategy as was Rafa a decade or so ago. To say rotation cost us when we were so dominant and in control is a ridiculous thing to say. Lovren doesn't make the stupidest of errors and then allowing the referee to make a decision is what cost us here.

This will happen again and again. We will dominate games but if we are only up by one you cannot trust clowns like Lovren to see it out. 

That silly push ruined a good result and three points.

You just can't allow this to happen when a team hasn't been near the goal for 70 minutes. Feels like a loss, Evertonians will be made up with a point, but that point was certainly a gift and will aid their survival.

Merry Christmas, Everton 🎁 🎄

You can't play your strongest team consistently when you account for the number of games played these days. It's such a simple English tabloidesque argument the likes of which Danny F***ing Mills would be wanking himself over on Match of the Day. We didn't have Europe last season and when the Christmas period passed we looked thoroughly done for and just about crawled over the line into the CL places. We need a bit more nous in navigating the season this time and Klopp is absolutely correct in his strategy as was Rafa a decade or so ago. To say rotation cost us when we were so dominant and in control is a ridiculous thing to say. Lovren doesn't make the stupidest of errors and then allowing the referee to make a decision is what cost us here.

Not sure you rest players for this one.

Remember Rafa winning at home to Madrid and Home to United around the same point of the 09 season. There was some rotation but our main hitters were out there.

West Brom at home was the day for rotation. We breazed past the Russians in what was no more rigorous than a training session.

No excuse to rest players, in my opinion it went from about an 90% chance of winning to about 70%.

On another day we would have won, but it gave them a bit more of a chance, a bit more belief and Liverpool being Liverpool we will lose goals and points from nothing as sure as death and taxes.

The mentality was wrong and it would have been if we had won as well. We shouldn't even give these a sniff on our patch.

We're obsessed as fans sometimes at being 'the better team' 'all over them' 'dominating them' but Fat Sam would have been happy 1-0 with 15 to go. I knew they would get a chance.

Klopp changed the game again taking Salah off over Mane who was sh*t all game. We had nothing when he went off and Everton had nothing to lose.

Bad selection, bad subs, bad attitude, bad result. Didn't have to be fatal, we cod have still won, but there was no need for the gamble.

Thought Solanke should have come off earlier for Firmino. Mane chance a big one but Salah and Gomez had chances as well. At 1-0 always susceptible and although very soft penalty he gave the ref a decision when he didnt need to  . Individual errors cost us not the boss.

Thought Solanke should have come off earlier for Firmino. Mane chance a big one but Salah and Gomez had chances as well. At 1-0 always susceptible and although very soft penalty he gave the ref a decision when he didnt need to  . Individual errors cost us not the boss.

The boss took Salah off and kept Solanke on, and has stuck by Loveren

Not sure you rest players for this one.

Remember Rafa winning at home to Madrid and Home to United around the same point of the 09 season. There was some rotation but our main hitters were out there.

West Brom at home was the day for rotation. We breazed past the Russians in what was no more rigorous than a training session.

No excuse to rest players, in my opinion it went from about an 90% chance of winning to about 70%.

On another day we would have won, but it gave them a bit more of a chance, a bit more belief and Liverpool being Liverpool we will lose goals and points from nothing as sure as death and taxes.

The mentality was wrong and it would have been if we had won as well. We shouldn't even give these a sniff on our patch.

Fair enough and I can definitely see your point. As strange as it sounds though I wouldn't feel that confident playing the team sent out against West Brom at Anfield. The atmosphere would sure have been tuned down quite a bit on Wednesday due to the fact it is West Brom! But I definitely think the team that was sent out today did a really good job and were certainly spurred on by a great atmosphere. The men, women and children in the stands really did a good job to underline just how important the game was and I think they rose to that. It stalled when Salah came off in all honesty and while he's played a lot of games lately I still would have preferred to see him stay on the field. That to me is where criticism of Klopp may seem warranted.

2 players cost us that game. Mane and Lovren.

When you have so much of the ball and the game it's not fair to pick on individual mistake.

Mane fu**ed up!, if he had layed the ball of we were are 2 up.

 I don't think Lovern has any blame for the penalty

This is a case where we should of win easily

I don't think Lovern has any blame for the penalty

Missed the header and then put his hands on Lewin's back. He has plenty of blame

When you have so much of the ball and the game it's not fair to pick on individual mistake.

Mane fu**ed up!, if he had layed the ball of we were are 2 up.

 I don't think Lovern has any blame for the penalty

This is a case where we should of win easily

You don't think Loveren has any blame for the penalty...what the f**k. He should be well gone only Klopps stubonness keeps him here

When I heard that sleazy, egomaniac pervert Max Clifford had died in prison I thought it'd be a good day where all sleazy, egomaniac pervs would get their comeuppance.

Maybe next time for 'Big Sam' though.

F**k me.

I thought we had a knee-jerk thread.

Some awful sh*te getting spouted about players and manager tonight.

I'd rather we rested some in the next match though myself.

Two teams I absolutely want to see the strongest line up against... Everton and the Mancs.

Give people a rest in the other games, but in any match against these two it's got to be the strongest team.

I think we'd have had a bag full today with the front 4 on, we'd certainly have worked their keeper more.

Like others are saying bag a few goals then take them off.

When I heard that sleazy, egomaniac pervert Max Clifford had died in prison I thought it'd be a good day where all sleazy, egomaniac pervs would get their comeuppance.

Maybe next time for 'Big Sam' though.

That's a bit strong on Clifford

Lovren might be a footballer if he had a brain.

Missed the header and then put his hands on Lewin's back. He has plenty of blame

It was a very soft penalty - and my honest opinion is Lovern did nothing wrong.

He didn't push him, there is nothing in the rules about placing hands on players

My only complaint, why didn't Klopp play his strongest side ? Another f**k up, one way or another !

You don't think Loveren has any blame for the penalty...what the f**k. He should be well gone only Klopps stubonness keeps him here

I have said many times Lovern isn't good enough but I don't think he did anything wrong for the penalty