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      Arsenal 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      GERNS
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #330: Dec 22, 2017 09:43:42 pm
      I feel like we’ve just been hammered 6:0
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #331: Dec 22, 2017 09:44:33 pm
      That 90 minuted summed the team up perfectly
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #332: Dec 22, 2017 09:44:39 pm
      We were lucky Cech committed a similar goalie error or we'd have zero points.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #333: Dec 22, 2017 09:44:39 pm
      Mane has been fecking poor, doesn't run at the defence like before, dribbling like a bloody superstar.

      Agreed. Mané looks as if he's somehow mad at Klopp, plays very obviously sloppy. Also, Countinho didn't shake hands with Klopp when substitited.

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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #334: Dec 22, 2017 09:44:43 pm
      Dear Santa, can you please find a way of relieving Mr Simon Mignolet from his goalkeeping duties of LFC that would make my Christmas
      ed603em
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #335: Dec 22, 2017 09:44:47 pm
      Absolute fantastic game for the neutrals, loving it. What is it about Arsenal? First United a thriller, now Liverpool. Premiership best football in the world.

      I don't understand why people are so easily duped into thinking ridiculously poor defending somehow constitutes good football. Being able to defend is a part of football ...
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #336: Dec 22, 2017 09:45:55 pm
      Another 2 pts thrown out the window for me. Why does Klopp keep on putting this trash bin in goal. Skipper needs to make a change before its too late.  Time for a Karuis run. Isn't that why he's here?
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #337: Dec 22, 2017 09:45:55 pm
      3-3. Disappointed not to win that one.
      But at the same time, we could've lost, so maybe I need to calm down and sniff the candles.
      Migs gave them no2 and could've done better for no3. And generally looked shaky as f**k. Summed up in a word - forfuckssakeyeegit :(
      Back 4 thought did OK, we got overrun in the middle after they got their first, Cou and Mane went missing unfortunately, and both deservedly replaced. Gini shored things up, as did the switch in formation, and AOC coming on.
      Firmino worked his socks off, deserved a goal.
      Salah my MOTM though - amazing this is his first season, excellent from him again tonight.
      Jürgen, again thought he was slow to make changes, but at least we came away with a point, and had the bottle to come back from 3-2 to equalise and possibly could've nicked it
      Entertaining match :)
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #338: Dec 22, 2017 09:46:06 pm
      When is Clyne likely to be fit again? He's been a huge miss this season.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #339: Dec 22, 2017 09:46:09 pm
      That 90 minuted summed the team up perfectly

      We are a roller coaster team and that is on Klopp!
      ruthcity
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #340: Dec 22, 2017 09:46:26 pm
      Migs out. F***ing clown in goal has overstayed his welcome. For the good of Liverpool football club.
      Scottbot
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #341: Dec 22, 2017 09:46:33 pm
      At least the lads showed the strength to recover some composure, get the goal and reassert themselves to take the point. Tough one to swallow but this is how it is under Jürgen, I've accepted it. Win the next one against Swansea and it will look like a good point.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #342: Dec 22, 2017 09:46:44 pm
      I don't understand why people are so easily duped into thinking ridiculously poor defending somehow constitutes good football. Being able to defend is a part of football ...
      Yeah agree, attacking football is good and all that but it’s knowing when to go from 100% attack down to 80% to win a game that makes good football
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #343: Dec 22, 2017 09:47:01 pm
      Gomez deserves a bit of slack. He's played really well before this but he is young and I'd expect him to lose his head and confidence from time to time.

      But when I see it from our 'experienced' goalkeeper almost every week, it's f**king pitiful and indefensible.
      Keith Singleton
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #344: Dec 22, 2017 09:47:08 pm
      I don't understand why people are so easily duped into thinking ridiculously poor defending somehow constitutes good football. Being able to defend is a part of football ...


      That's very true and the defending was bad at times, especially the keepers. However, entertaining it was.
      chats
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #345: Dec 22, 2017 09:47:13 pm
      Shocking that. Quite simply a game that shows exactly with Liverpool and Arsenal will finish below City, United and Chelsea at the very least. None of them teams would have chucked away a 2-0 lead and I'm pretty sure if any of them had rescued it to 3-2 they wouldn't have gone and conceded again like Arsenal did.

      Slight bit of credit for not rolling over when we went 3-2 down, I'd expect most teams in the world would have been fu**ed if they'd conceded 3 in 5 minutes so fair play to the lads for holding strong and then getting the equaliser. Got a serious problem now though, we've given up so many leads under Jürgen that every single team in the league probably believe they can get a result against us and that's a tough thing to turn around.

      Firmino played well as did the centre halves. Mignolet - don't even need to bother. Midfield and Coutinho did their classic disappearing act when the going got tough.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #346: Dec 22, 2017 09:47:15 pm
      I feel like we’ve just been hammered 6:0

      Why? That was a good point. Well earned 3-3 draw.

      Nothing less.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #347: Dec 22, 2017 09:47:18 pm
      I could bi*ch, moan, complain about this match..instead I will say a point at the emirates is an OK result....4 out of 6 points from Arsenal for the year is good and the next 3 are very winnable where it would be 10/12 over the holiday period which I would take all day long.

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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #348: Dec 22, 2017 09:47:50 pm
      2 pts dropped for sure, But at the beginning of this game, if you would’ve gave me a point from it, I would’ve taken it

      I wouldn't. Not after drawing a ton of games already this season.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #349: Dec 22, 2017 09:47:54 pm
      Same old same, if it's not Loveren it's Migs, feel like we threw it away and Klopp should have taken Mane off 30 min before he did frustrating as f**k
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #350: Dec 22, 2017 09:48:25 pm
      Agreed. Mané looks as if he's somehow mad at Klopp, plays very obviously sloppy. Also, Countinho didn't shake hands with Klopp when substitited.



      Tin foil time is it ?
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #351: Dec 22, 2017 09:48:54 pm
      Migs gave them no2 and could've done better for no3.

      #2 is on Migs, #3 no realistic chance (only with luck, but we cannot demand that from him, can we). He looked today like our whole team: like a bunch of teenagers that - once again - learn a lesson.

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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #352: Dec 22, 2017 09:49:04 pm
      Also need to have Mane become a sub for a while and have Ox on, needs to earn his place again

      Yep, think AOC deserves a run.
      Don't think Mane was as bad as the previous run out, but gave the ball away, and chose the wrong ball, too often.
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      Re: Arsenal 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #353: Dec 22, 2017 09:49:52 pm
      every time we dont win it feels like we lost, cause we have been better than oposition.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #354: Dec 22, 2017 09:49:59 pm
      2 points thrown  away for me.
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      Re: Arsenal 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #355: Dec 22, 2017 09:50:17 pm
      It's crazy but I only relax watching a game once we are four goals to the good! How bonneted is that. Even against Bournemouth at 3-0 I was tense.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #356: Dec 22, 2017 09:50:40 pm
      3 points pissed away in the space of five minutes,totally unacceptable that ,a f**king abomination of a keeper has cost us once again,get him to f**k outa LFC boss.

      I fully agree but the keeper is only part of the issue. Two other ongoing problems for us:

      1) When the opposition pick up momentum we wilt away and implode completely. There is such an absence of any leadership in our team it's shocking. It's like watching eleven sheep startled in headlights - none of them knowing what to do

      2) We need a defensive midfielder. A player in the mould of Lucas / Mascherano / Hamann who will sit in front of the centre-backs and break up play. Henderson and Wjilandum aren't that type of player.
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      Re: Arsenal 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #357: Dec 22, 2017 09:50:40 pm
      Aren't we the club with most points dropped from a winning position in the league or something like that?

      Happens far too often. Klopp needs to be more ruthless with his team. Punching the air whilst we repeatedly fall apart must be very tiresome.
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      Re: LIVE: Arsenal v Liverpool
      Reply #358: Dec 22, 2017 09:50:44 pm
      Gomez awareness for two of the goals shocking. The less said about the other goal the better and looking at Ozils goal again he basically shows Ozil over 3/4 of the net truly awful keeper whose time needs to come to an end
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      Re: Arsenal 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #359: Dec 22, 2017 09:51:04 pm
      Formino was boss tonight, he must be as frustrated as hell. Migs has to go ....................plea se. Hope Santa brings us a decent keeper in January.

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