Firmino and Holgate

so time for FA to charge Holgate for the push he never got booked for .....

This x 1,000,000

So the FA decide there’s not enough evidence to charge Bobby, after seven weeks of scrutinising all the evidence.
What they really mean is,
If we could have got away with it, we would have charged him but we couldn’t find anything we could make stick. We may however now charge him with wasting FA time 😳

One word covers all this......

CORRUPTION !

So reading between the lines, they're saying there wasn't enough evidence to charge Bobby, instead of saying he is innocent!
Basically they tried a hard as they could to screw him, but couldn't make it stick! F**k the FA!
 When they reviewed all this footage, did they at anytime think that Holgate might at least be deserving of a card of some sort?

So reading between the lines, they're saying there wasn't enough evidence to charge Bobby, instead of saying he is innocent!
Basically they tried a hard as they could to screw him, but couldn't make it stick! F**k the FA!
 When they reviewed all this footage, did they at anytime think that Holgate might at least be deserving of a card of some sort?

I noticed that too, wankers. It's all on TV, the club should be insisting on a full exoneration of him over this, rather than this "we tried as hard as we could to find something to pin on him but came up empty" of a statement. They also copped out over charging Holgate with a malicious allegation when, after seeing the TV footage, he could have withdrawn it knowing full well he didn't say what he presumed he'd said.

Disappeared without trace.

He shoved Bob in to the crowd. He wrongly accused him of racial abuse. He didn't do it "in good faith" you cu*ts. He wanted to deflect and save himself from a ban.

F**k off.

Did you expect anything else from them mate..?

That’s the issue right, I didn’t.

Best scenario for us. The FA for once did not punish us.

Well done Firmino, suck it Holgate

So reading between the lines, they're saying there wasn't enough evidence to charge Bobby, instead of saying he is innocent!

I picked up on that too. The message was that there wasn't enough evidence to convict... absolutely ridiculous stance to take. Meanwhile, they thank Holgate for coming forward and his honest intentions. Right.

Thanks to Holgate case and how he skipped punishment for pushing Firmino into a group of fans, a lot more false claims could happen and if it does, could that have a big impact in racism that stretches further than football?

If I were the club I'd have our lawyers on to them to get them to reword that sh*te

Still leaves a hidden message of guilt for me, just that they couldn't prove it

Wankers

Firminio should personally sue Holgate for defamation of character and damage to his image rights, enough of this bullshit with people playing the race card and crying racism for their own personal convenience. They do enormous damage to the genuine fight against racism and are a disgrace to their race .

It boils down to this, did Firminio use any word that could in any way be interpreted as a racist word? If no then Holgate fabricated the claim OR needs to prove that he has some kind of serious hearing problem.

Holgate recklessly pushes Firmino into the crowd
Holgate is not booked
Holgate fabricates racism claim to tarnish reputation of Firmino who lashes out obviously by calling the c**t a “son of a b**ch”
Holgate avoids any punishment for endangering the safety of another
FA say “not enough evidence” on racism but do not say Firmino is innocent
Holgate is a c**t

Innocent and that is all.

I hope the club asks the FA to clarify their statement that there was insufficient evidence to charge Bobby. The facts are, that no player from either side heard the word that Holgate said was used, the referee didn’t, the different camera angles showed nothing racist and the Portuguese lip readers confirmed that no racist language was used! So how can the FA decide there is insufficient evidence to charge, there is NO evidence, apart from Holgate who had just committed a violent act and should have seen red! Yet the FA can conclude that there was no malice on Holgates part and he spoke out in good faith, yet they decide that they didn’t have sufficient evidence to charge Firmino. One is a young English player, the other a young foreign player! I rest my case.

Thanks to Holgate case and how he skipped punishment for pushing Firmino into a group of fans, a lot more false claims could happen and if it does, could that have a big impact in racism that stretches further than football?

Sadly, the way football is these days, this is true. Players will lie through their teeth to gain an advantage. The FA have left it wide open for players to start pretending to think that they were racially abused in order to dodge a ban or a sending off or whatever. (Obviously this in turn will make it harder to identify real cases of racial abuse.)

The FA did not have to say that Holgate lied. It is impossible to be sure about that, although it is likely that he did. What they should have done, though, is make sure that he did not gain any advantage from his false accusation by taking action over his push on Firmino that the ref failed to deal with.

And what they definitely should have done is completely exonerate Firmino rather than give that mealy mouthed "not enough evidence" statement. There was plenty of evidence, and it all showed that he didn't say anything racist.

I hope the club asks the FA to clarify their statement that there was insufficient evidence to charge Bobby. The facts are, that no player from either side heard the word that Holgate said was used, the referee didn’t, the different camera angles showed nothing racist and the Portuguese lip readers confirmed that no racist language was used! So how can the FA decide there is insufficient evidence to charge, there is NO evidence, apart from Holgate who had just committed a violent act and should have seen red! Yet the FA can conclude that there was no malice on Holgates part and he spoke out in good faith, yet they decide that they didn’t have sufficient evidence to charge Firmino. One is a young English player, the other a young foreign player! I rest my case.

The FA are incapable of clarifying anything, the issue has clouded with the time it takes for a mist to form, the FA's intention.
Any appeals will see more time pass and the facts even more obscure, let's not forget the FA's spite at anyone who questions their credibility.

Everton statement says they "accept" the decision. They should at least be decent enough to word it more like "we accept that Roberto Firmino did not racially abuse our player."

Western society will never truly get a handle on racism if it doesn't abandon the politically correct mindset and actually deal with what goes on in people's hearts, minds and actions. Instead, everything is about looking good in public perception, often in the face of some legal pressure.

Love thy neighbor, and all that.

I do not think the FA have gone far enough.  As no one else heard the word that holgate claimed was said they should have fully exonerated Bobby and should retrospectively look into the push he did on Bobby. The whole racism thing by holgate was just to avoid getting booked or sent off.

This whole issue does not help to kick racism out of football.

Personally, even without false claim I think the push is a season ban imho. I'm disappointed no fans complained to the police, since it's the absence of police complaint that allowed FA
.... which means ****ing ***holes to do nothing. There's no way England represent this d*gsh*te organization. England represent the people of this country.

Everton statement says they "accept" the decision. They should at least be decent enough to word it more like "we accept that Roberto Firmino did not racially abuse our player."

Western society will never truly get a handle on racism if it doesn't abandon the politically correct mindset and actually deal with what goes on in people's hearts, minds and actions. Instead, everything is about looking good in public perception, often in the face of some legal pressure.

Love thy neighbor, and all that.

Everton do everything they can to mess us up. Don't you remember what they did to Origi just before Sevilla? It's not like they gave a sh*t when there player kissed their badge happily accepting a red card to injure a player on purpose.

This was a shoddy attempt to injure firmino or get him suspended, Everton ain't winning anything so Holgate took the risk.

It's not over, they'll already be planning stuff for April 7th with us playing them again. I hate playing Everton now because it's never about football, they're always on the loosing end and they're idea of victory will be injuring half our first 11.

Pleased this has been sorted.  A little bit surprised it's being reported as 'Firmino will not be charged' as that implies there is some kind of possible guilt that can't be proven.