Alisson Becker (AS Roma)

I would stick with Karius for the moment. He was at fault yesterday plus Alisson did nothing special.

I think he has been a marked improvement on Mignolet and it was surely Lovren's fault for the goal yesterday for not clearing that ball.
For decades we have been two or three players short of having a league winning team we may well be down to just one this summer.
Winning the CL would be a massive statement for the club and I would only be happy to replace Karius with the quality of someone like DeGea.

I thought he was good, but not as good as his YouTube bio funnily enough.

For the record - I don’t agree Karius made a bigger error. He misjudged BUT touched onto bar........Alisson dropped right in middle of the box.

He might well be better than Lorus.......but it wasn’t obvious last night.

I’ve given Migs a lot of stick over the years, all be it deserved, so I try to be consistent if I can with all our players. Lovren I have slated time and again but given credit where due, or at least hope I have done.
I’ve been a supporter of Karius and think he should have been given a chance sooner but in keeping with how I’ve slated Migs, I’d have said he should have done better with the shot and how had it not been for the bar, we’d have been 1-0 down due to a keeper f**k up. In no circumstances should the ball be going through Karius’ hands as easily as that.

Alisson made a f**k up dropping the ball but we were much closer to conceding as a result of the Karius error than what Roma were from the Alisson one.

Exactly my point mate - as I said before I’ve no idea if Lorus is the long term answer but I know he isn’t the immediate problem.......we don’t have one, just bits and bobs we could improve

I’d be more inclined to go after someone like Casillas so we’d have a mentor and someone that could step in and not have the situation be too big for him.

The way you guys are slating Alisson you just know that he will be immense next Wednesday and shut us out, lets instead start saying that he is the best keeper ever and jinx him :-)

Just my impression from going the match last night.

Hahaha not a chance, I'd have good money on Bobby or Salah scoring past them in Rome.

We're going to Kiev!!

I’ve given Migs a lot of stick over the years, all be it deserved, so I try to be consistent if I can with all our players. Lovren I have slated time and again but given credit where due, or at least hope I have done.
I’ve been a supporter of Karius and think he should have been given a chance sooner but in keeping with how I’ve slated Migs, I’d have said he should have done better with the shot and how had it not been for the bar, we’d have been 1-0 down due to a keeper f**k up. In no circumstances should the ball be going through Karius’ hands as easily as that.

Alisson made a f**k up dropping the ball but we were much closer to conceding as a result of the Karius error than what Roma were from the Alisson one.

Shot was going in, shot didn’t go in = save mate.

I too was “F**k was that?” At the time but that’s the facts - whether he misjudged or not it DIDN’T go in so it’s a save.

Shot was going in, shot didn’t go in = save mate.

I too was “f**k was that?” At the time but that’s the facts - whether he misjudged or not it DIDN’T go in so it’s a save.

Likewise nothing came of the Alisson mistake either though.

Maybe I’m not coming across right, I know at the end of the day it’s a save, but for me he just has to be more convincing with that. He turned an easy situation into a brief moment of dread that we’d gone 1-0 down. He’s shown over the last few months he’s more than capable of dealing with that confidently and with no trouble, which is the reason why I expected better from him there. It’s something I expect Migs to have done.
The way I’m seeing it is, if it was Salah having a glorious scoring opportunity, I’d expect nothing less than him to take it, not because it’s his job but because it’s what he’s been doing consistently.

But either way, we won, nothing came of it and it didn’t have a negative impact on his game, something that wouldnt have been the case with Migs.

I think the difference is that one stops it going in and one puts it in danger.

Wasn’t really aimed at you earlier just think too much wailing and gnashing of teeth about him because of years of Migs has just made us uneasy and some fans just wanna see £40m spunked to feel better.

Defence is in good nick - yes we could do with another quality keeper, lb and cb but other than cb it’s just depth.

This is a tough decision to be honest. I do like Alisson and think he is a great keeper but i am happy with Karius so far, he has been a massive improvement on Mignolet, of that there is no doubt. Karius is still only 24 years old, he is still a puppy in goalkeeping terms.

It is a big risk to take if we don't go for a top class keeper and Karius fails next Season.

Alisson is keeping Ederson out of the Brazil side and Ederson is an outstanding keeper.

Personally i'd love to see us sign Alisson.

Don't think FSG will authorise £40 million plus for a keeper though.

Possibly a swap deal??

Mignolet plus £39 million, 999thousand and 999 pounds and 99 pence?

This is a tough decision to be honest. I do like Alisson and think he is a great keeper but i am happy with Karius so far, he has been a massive improvement on Mignolet, of that there is no doubt. Karius is still only 24 years old, he is still a puppy in goalkeeping terms.

It is a big risk to take if we don't go for a top class keeper and Karius fails next Season.

Alisson is keeping Ederson out of the Brazil side and Ederson is an outstanding keeper.

Personally i'd love to see us sign Alisson.

Don't think FSG will authorise £40 million plus for a keeper though.

Possibly a swap deal??

Mignolet plus £39 million, 999thousand and 999 pounds and 99 pence?

I don't get this, why not pay £40m for a keeper who will secure us as many points as De Gea does for Manure? Personally A goalkeeper is the position I'd probably spend the most on in a team, a great goalkeeper makes such a huge difference to the team, same as a great striker.

Not sure Alisson is the answer but saying stick with Karius, dont forget Kolarov shot in the 1st half that he made an arse off but got away with it. That carry on is to common which is why he cant be number 1

Not sure Alisson is the answer but saying stick with Karius, dont forget Kolarov shot in the 1st half that he made an arse off but got away with it. That carry on is to common which is why he cant be number 1

I think its very foolish to judge a keeper on one game, especially one where we were in scintillating form and their defence turned to Swiss cheese.
Alisson is a superb keeper and without a doubt will be a big improvement on Karius who himself is a big improvement on Migs.

I think its very foolish to judge a keeper on one game, especially one where we were in scintillating form and their defence turned to Swiss cheese.
Alisson is a superb keeper and without a doubt will be a big improvement on Karius who himself is a big improvement on Migs.

Why shouldn't we judge Allison based on what we saw on Tuesday, when people are using individual game "errors" to judge Karius? So we should over analyze every play Karius made in the game but disregard Allison's?

I am sure Allison has had a good season but so has Karius so if we are going to nitpick plays for one, let's do it for both, and we'd see Allison did not have a good game against us.

BTW, Navas was brutal last night on Bayern's goal, yet another example that every goalie makes mistakes and that we need to look at the big picture instead of "he should have been an inch to his right" crap we complain about with Karius.

"he should have been an inch to his right" crap we complain about with Karius.

Who is complaining and saying he should have been an inch to his right for that Dzeko goal? :O

Why shouldn't we judge Allison based on what we saw on Tuesday, when people are using individual game "errors" to judge Karius? So we should over analyze every play Karius made in the game but disregard Allison's?

I am sure Allison has had a good season but so has Karius so if we are going to nitpick plays for one, let's do it for both, and we'd see Allison did not have a good game against us.

No doubt Karius has helped improved our defense, no doubt he is a better keeper, and no doubt keepers make mistakes, but with these  Mig mistakes (big ones imo) last few games creeping in, an unsure performance vs West Brom makes me wonder. I have praised him like everyone else on here, but there will always be doubt with a keeper that has potential rather than established.

No one knows if he will be world class or sh*t in the future, but he is still potential and it could go either way, and some wanting more of an established keeper (whether 10m or 60m) over Karius is just as understandable as some wanting to keep Karius as our #1 and give him a chance.

Why shouldn't we judge Allison based on what we saw on Tuesday, when people are using individual game "errors" to judge Karius? So we should over analyze every play Karius made in the game but disregard Allison's?

I am sure Allison has had a good season but so has Karius so if we are going to nitpick plays for one, let's do it for both, and we'd see Allison did not have a good game against us.

WTF?? Who's nitpicking individual plays? In my post I said that Karius is a big improvement on Migs but Alisson is a big improvement on Karius, I think the vast majority of football fans and managers would agree with that statement, hence why Alisson is the number 1 keeper for Brasil whilst Karius is no where near the German national team.

BTW, Navas was brutal last night on Bayern's goal, yet another example that every goalie makes mistakes and that we need to look at the big picture instead of "he should have been an inch to his right" crap we complain about with Karius.

Actually he made one mistake for their goal but then made several excellent saves to more than make up fo rit, overall it was an excellent goalkeeping display.

Big picture you see rather than overanalysing individual plays!

Actually he made one mistake for their goal but then made several excellent saves to more than make up fo rit, overall it was an excellent goalkeeping display.

Big picture you see rather than overanalysing individual plays!

To be honest the 'excellent saves' were all rather standard for a keeper at that level especially given that most his saves came from narrow goal angles courtesy of Ribery's predictably dire decision making.

To be honest the 'excellent saves' we're all rather standard for a keeper at that level especially given that most his saves came from narrow goal angles courtesy of Ribery's predictably dire decision making.

I did not watch the game but did watch the highlights and agree with your statements. For example, there was a close-range save he made but the ball was directly hit at him.

Would Navas make the save Karius made against Everton? Those are world-class saves.

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/1000886129808347136?s=19

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/1000886129808347136?s=19

Just now seeing Andy Hunter in The Guardian writing that we will target a keeper. There's no sourcing but Andy usually has a pretty good pipeline to management. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/27/mohamed-salah-confident-fit-world-cup

Seems to think they will go after Allison after all.

Yep, he is referring to the £70m from CL and £142m from Cou's sale as our probable transfer budget.

If Roma do budge and are willing to let go of Alisson, I think we might have to part with a fee very similar to Fekir - assuming both can be agreed. But there are signs that its gonna drag through out the summer. Pulisic might cost close to a similar figure as well unless we can agree on a loan deal for Dembele (something that quite a few sources have quoted).

Yep, he is referring to the £70m from CL and £142m from Cou's sale as our probable transfer budget.

If Roma do budge and are willing to let go of Alisson, I think we might have to part with a fee very similar to Fekir - assuming both can be agreed. But there are signs that its gonna drag through out the summer. Pulisic might cost close to a similar figure as well unless we can agree on a loan deal for Dembele (something that quite a few sources have quoted).

Need to get this wrapped up immediately.

Just offer the £87 million asking price and get him in.

It's far too long since we've had a proper no1.