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Bring on the World Cup so, and let's see how it should be done. The winner will win it by fair play at all times.

So far in the tournament, the following teams have seen VAR decisions go against them.

Portugal
Russia
Brazil
Germany

One of them was eliminated by VAR, and no doubt there will still be people saying they don't want it in our sport.

We're spoiled at this tournament. Refereeing injustices are harder to find than contact lenses, and fair play is enforced. In 6 weeks, we're back to the cheaters, divers and dark arts paradise of the EPL.

We're spoiled at this tournament. Refereeing injustices are harder to find than contact lenses, and fair play is enforced. In 6 weeks, we're back to the cheaters, divers and dark arts paradise of the EPL.

Sarcastic, right?

Players are diving at the World Cup, they just aren’t getting booked for it. Players are also getting the slightest touch and rolling around as if they’ve been hit in the face with a baseball bat, Neymar got pulled by his shoulder and went down holding his face, Ronaldo tried not one but twice to elbow a player in the face, the slightest thing not going a players way and they are doing a big fish, little fish cardboard box sign for the VAR to be checked. Or in the case of Mitrovic, nothing happens on the most blatant penalty of the tournament so far.
Ridiculous handball decisions being given for one player but not another, same with all the bear hugging.
The ref is still at fault for these stupid decisions being given or not being given so how can you possibly say this about the referees at the tournament?! They are just as bad as ever but have a fancy screen to make it look like they know what they are doing.

But the Premier League is full of cheats

More clout should be given to the VAR’s sat in their studio to make a decision, IMO.

Disagree.  Ultimately the referee in the middle, watched by millions should be the man making the final decision.  Assistants are just there to suggest he might want to have another look at a replay. 

I don't think it's massively slowed the game down.  In fact with the balls getting back in play I'd say we are seeing more actual football time than we see in a Premier League game (anyone got the stats of in-play time?)

That South Korea pen yesterday was the perfect example of why it should be used.  Live and on the first couple of replays I thought a South Korea player had played the ball hence no goal - it was only from a different TV angle that you could make the correct decision.

We're spoiled at this tournament. Refereeing injustices are harder to find than contact lenses, and fair play is enforced. In 6 weeks, we're back to the cheaters, divers and dark arts paradise of the EPL.

Exactly.  I'll bet there is a game deciding mistake by a ref in the very first weekend of the Premier League.

Remember the tales that VAR "killed the emotion" of the sport. Did you see the Korean reaction to the VAR review? You would forget that both teams were going home on the same day.

There have been 24 penalties awarded at the tournament so far. There have been 0 for diving. Tell me the last tournament when you couldn't win a penalty for diving in the box.

Officials are also punishing shirt pulls, pushes, and handball cases, far more than they used to. Nigeria had two games where shirt pulling has resulted in penalties. One for them, one against them. Just as well Skrtel isn't playing. Players are now reminded at set plays by refs, what the consequences of fouling their marker is.

Goals have been wrongly scored and ruled out for offside. With VAR, those decisions can and have been, corrected inside 60 seconds max. (even if the broadcasters take their time to provide replays) Without it, we can be talking about them years later, and the decision is still wrong.

You can tell me Ronaldo should have walked for elbowgate. Another player got the same card for the same offence in the group stage, so action is being taken. I can tell you that without VAR, both would have gone unseen and unpunished.

We play the mancs in December. Our players will be pulled and pushed and dragged and scythed up and down that pitch for 90 minutes, and nothing is going to be done about it, because we're not allowed. That's just the home game, let alone the annual injustices meted out in the away game. What was it, two penalties not given last season? If they were given and scored, that would have been a 6 point swing and we would probably have finished second. But they weren't, and instead it was described in the media as a "Mourinho masterclass". Unfortunately we have more of the same awaiting us in February. It's so predictable, you know it now.

The outcome of VAR is fairer results. Going back to stone age refereeing as we have to, (when we're done next season by Moss and Friend and Pawson and their linos), is a shambles. If it was me, I would get the clubs round asap for another vote. We have the resources now to get things right. If France Spain Italy and Germany are able to use it, our team's league should not be left behind.

But what happens when VAR creates injustice?

Today the referree correctly awarded a penalty for the foul on Mane. He then went to VAR and incorrectly overruled the decision.

Crazy.

But what happens when VAR creates injustice?

Today the referree correctly awarded a penalty for the foul on Mane. He then went to VAR and incorrectly overruled the decision.

Crazy.

Wasn't a perfectly awarded penalty, on review and if you watch the replays from various angles, it turned out to be a good challenge with the Colombian player winning the ball.

He wins the ball, but after contact with Mane's leg. It was a penalty. So why did the referee change his mind?

VAR creates pressure and a situation where the ref has to consider wether to bow to that pressure or not.

Just like with Nigeria vs Argentina. It was a penalty, but a goal for Nigeria would have eliminated Argentina. So no penalty despite the VAR.

He wins the ball, but after contact with Mane's leg. It was a penalty. So why did the referee change his mind?

VAR creates pressure and a situation where the ref has to consider wether to bow to that pressure or not.

Just like with Nigeria vs Argentina. It was a penalty, but a goal for Nigeria would have eliminated Argentina. So no penalty despite the VAR.

You think that was a penalty 

He wins the ball, but after contact with Mane's leg. It was a penalty. So why did the referee change his mind?

VAR creates pressure and a situation where the ref has to consider wether to bow to that pressure or not.

Just like with Nigeria vs Argentina. It was a penalty, but a goal for Nigeria would have eliminated Argentina. So no penalty despite the VAR.

he changed his mind when he saw it was tackle of the tournament. 99% of the time it's a penalty. Thanks to VAR he was able to see he got the ball first. Had that been a goal it would be England v Senegal next round. It's a shame he made the right call really.

How can it be tackle of the tournament when he fouls the player before he tackles him?

How can it be tackle of the tournament when he fouls the player before he tackles him?

He got the ball first.

He got the ball first.

No he didn't. 

No he didn't. 

Yes he did that's why it's still called a contact sport!!

he changed his mind when he saw it was tackle of the tournament. 99% of the time it's a penalty. Thanks to VAR he was able to see he got the ball first. Had that been a goal it would be England v Senegal next round. It's a shame he made the right call really.

That's the point. The right call is made now. No shame about it.

There was 70 minutes to go and Group G still to be played. You can't say what impact that single VAR decision would have had at the time.

But England are apparantly very happy to be on the same side of the draw as Colombia Croatia Russia and Spain. Just as they were very happy to be facing Iceland two years ago.

Yes he did that's why it's still called a contact sport!!

Contact sport doesn't mean you are allowed to go through a player to reach the ball.

Referee awarded a penalty and then overruled that decision having seen Mane get fouled prior to contact on the ball.

Referee therefore incorrectly changed his decision because of VAR. Why? Is it the pressure or corruption?

Contact sport doesn't mean you are allowed to go through a player to reach the ball.

Referee awarded a penalty and then overruled that decision having seen Mane get fouled prior to contact on the ball.

Referee therefore incorrectly changed his decision because of VAR. Why? Is it the pressure or corruption?

What the F**k you on about? Player didn't go through anyone you soft tw*t. He made a challenge and won the ball. As for corruption, you trying to say FIFA have got something against Africa? Get back to wearing your tinfoil hat dickhead.

No response other than laughing at you mate. 

It's pre-season and here you are with the swearing. What are you? 16? Grow up and chill out. 

No response other than laughing at you mate. 

It's pre-season and here you are with the swearing. What are you? 16? Grow up and chill out. 

Stop talking your conspiracy theory claptrap nonsense then soft arse!! What's up don't like it when someone calls you out on what you are:

A F***ing billy bullshitter!!

No, I just laugh at it. Always a sign of a lost argument when one side resorts to insults and swearing.

Always a clear sign of immaturity too.

No, I just laugh at it. Always a sign of a lost argument when one side resorts to insults and swearing.

Always a clear sign of immaturity too.

To clear up this running argument, Collina explains the incident clearly in his official press conference. FIFA have blocked the below video on this website, but it can be seen on youtube.

https://youtu.be/zYapOnBsSVY

In a lengthy, VAR dominated press conference, 4 incidents are shown, along with the audio communication between the ref and the room. They start after 21 minutes of the video.

So far in the World Cup, there has been less fouls, more penalties, and a 99.3% correct decision rate. Somehow, I don't think the percentage will be quite so high in the coming league season.