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      Re: VAR
      Reply #270: Sep 10, 2018 07:59:54 am
      Day 4 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Chelsea v Bournemouth:
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by Bournemouth.
      Decision: Goal kick.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given.

      v Leicester (a):
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by us. (Van Dijk)
      Decision: Corner given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #271: Sep 19, 2018 11:58:40 am
      Day 5 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      City v Fulham:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by City.
      Decision: Offside.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Goal given.

      v Spurs (a):
      Incident: Penalty claim by Spurs.
      Decision: Goal.kick.
      VAR Review? Decision Changed. Free kick awarded to us, for sly push on Milner in penalty area, during build up.

      v Spurs (a):
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play against Firmino.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned.
      Possible red card for offender.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #272: Sep 19, 2018 11:59:27 am
      In Serie A, one of the leagues with the foresight to implement the refereeing revolution, a player was spotted spitting at an opponent, out of sight of the ref. Not really the smartest thing to do though with VAR around though. The ref was duly alerted to the incident, so he could apply the automatic punishment for the offence. That's why VAR is in place, cleaning the crap out of our game. Literally in that case.

      In the EPL however, you can still get away with such offences, on the day at least, if the ref doesn't see it at the time.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #273: Sep 19, 2018 07:05:32 pm
      Would have won 3-0 last night if VAR was used. 

      Can’t wait until we move out of the dark ages
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #274: Sep 26, 2018 02:58:44 pm
      Day 6 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Fulham v Watford:
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play by Fulham.
      Decision: Yellow Card.
      VAR Review? Decision Changed. Red Card given.

      Cardiff v City:
      Incident: Serious Foul Play by Cardiff.
      Decision: Yellow Card
      VAR Review? Decision Changed. Red Card given.

      Arsenal v Everton:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Arsenal.
      Decision: Goal given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Offside given.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #275: Sep 26, 2018 06:09:20 pm
      Just a reminder lads, that VAR is in operation in tonight's game, to see that justice is done. So all major decisions made on the field, are provisional until play resumes.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #276: Sep 27, 2018 06:04:33 am
      Just a reminder lads, that VAR is in operation in tonight's game, to see that justice is done. So all major decisions made on the field, are provisional until play resumes.



      Justice my arse.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #277: Sep 27, 2018 07:59:23 am
      Tbh, I thought our goal and their first goal were borderline off. But as I've always said, if a VAR reviews a call and makes a decision, then I accept whatever the decision is, as correct.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #278: Sep 27, 2018 11:50:23 am
      Tbh, I thought our goal and their first goal were borderline off. But as I've always said, if a VAR reviews a call and makes a decision, then I accept whatever the decision is, as correct.

      What if the decision is wrong?
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #279: Sep 27, 2018 01:04:01 pm
      What if the decision is wrong?

      Apparantly!!!!! VAR never wrong, according to some!!
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #280: Sep 27, 2018 01:15:19 pm
      For VAR decisions, we ought to be able to hear the process live, or at least read the transcript.

      As I've said before, I welcome the system, but it is still open to interpretation and bias. Not sure what solution there is to that issue.. but it is certainly there.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #281: Sep 27, 2018 01:21:13 pm
      Tbh, I thought our goal and their first goal were borderline off. But as I've always said, if a VAR reviews a call and makes a decision, then I accept whatever the decision is, as correct.

      I thought the ref was supposed to check on the screen by the dug out, Kevin Friend just stood there on that first Chelsea goal and listened to the fella whoever was doing the VAR. When free-kick is taken at least two Chelsea players look offside.

      Even Klopp took a pop at VAR last night!!
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #282: Sep 27, 2018 02:17:56 pm
      I thought the ref was supposed to check on the screen by the dug out, Kevin Friend just stood there on that first Chelsea goal and listened to the fella whoever was doing the VAR. When free-kick is taken at least two Chelsea players look offside.

      Even Klopp took a pop at VAR last night!!
      Not sure how you could review this (actual VAR screen) and not make the right call?



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      Re: VAR
      Reply #283: Sep 27, 2018 07:40:18 pm
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      I thought the ref was supposed to check on the screen by the dug out, Kevin Friend just stood there on that first Chelsea goal and listened to the fella whoever was doing the VAR. When free-kick is taken at least two Chelsea players look offside.

      Even Klopp took a pop at VAR last night!!

      The ref doesn't have to go to a screen to check offside calls, that's more for penalties and red cards. He can if he wants, but offside is usually clearcut.

      I know what their goal looks like, and to me it looks clearcut, but the VAR reviewed it and must have found a reason where it's not offside. So therefore I accept the decision he gives as correct.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #284: Sep 28, 2018 11:47:46 am
      The ref doesn't have to go to a screen to check offside calls, that's more for penalties and red cards. He can if he wants, but offside is usually clearcut.

      I know what their goal looks like, and to me it looks clearcut, but the VAR reviewed it and must have found a reason where it's not offside. So therefore I accept the decision he gives as correct.
      none of those players that looked offside were involved in the first phase of play. They went onside again before getting a direct pass. Chelsea were clever, they beat our offside trap.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #285: Sep 28, 2018 12:36:54 pm
      I know what their goal looks like, and to me it looks clearcut, but the VAR reviewed it and must have found a reason where it's not offside. So therefore I accept the decision he gives as correct.

      As I said initially in this thread it who is reviewing and deciding these decisions and that would be English refs who are in the main, f**king useless!!

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      Re: VAR
      Reply #286: Oct 05, 2018 11:58:59 pm
      Day 7 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Huddersfield v Spurs:
      Incident:
      Penalty for Spurs
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given.

      Newcastle v Leicester:
      Incident: Penalty for Leicester.
      Decision: Penalty given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      Cardiff v Burnley:
      Incident:
      Penalty for Cardiff.
      Decision: No penalty given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      In September, 8 major decisions made in the EPL should have been overturned with VAR.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #287: Oct 13, 2018 05:02:48 pm
      Day 8 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Southampton v Chelsea:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Chelsea
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Foul in build up.

      mancs v Newcastle:
      Incident: Penalty for Newcastle.
      Decision: No action taken
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned for handball by cheating manc.

      Spurs v Cardiff:
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play by Cardiff.
      Decision: Red Card given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #288: Oct 13, 2018 08:50:30 pm
      Day 8 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Southampton v Chelsea:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Chelsea
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Foul in build up.

      mancs v Newcastle:
      Incident: Penalty for Newcastle.
      Decision: No action taken
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned for handball by cheating manc.

      Spurs v Cardiff:
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play by Cardiff.
      Decision: Red Card given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      TBC...

      Seriously mate, relax. We all get your view on VAR and dare I say the majority agree, including myself, that it’s good.

      But for fucks sake we don’t need a weekly commentary, especially when it makes a glaring error as with the offside the other week and your response is ‘I accept it’, even when the evidence would indicate otherwise.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #289: Oct 18, 2018 08:59:25 pm
      VAR reviewed the evidence from all the available angles, and found nothing to change the decision.

      We do need a round up. With an average of 3 major howlers every week in this league, cheating is still being rewarded, and points are still being won and lost when they shouldn't be. When neighbouring countries can correct the howlers in their leagues there and then.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #290: Oct 18, 2018 10:06:06 pm
      Not happy with how it has been used since the World Cup...
      When it was first rumored to be used it was siad that a incident would only be review if the referee made a decision on it. i.e. an goal that was offside and was not spotted.

      Players seem to want a review of everything and constantly surround the referee.

      The referee needs to be given more clarity for when the VAR is to be used
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #291: Oct 18, 2018 11:57:28 pm
      Not happy with how it has been used since the World Cup...
      When it was first rumored to be used it was siad that a incident would only be review if the referee made a decision on it. i.e. an goal that was offside and was not spotted.

      Players seem to want a review of everything and constantly surround the referee.

      The referee needs to be given more clarity for when the VAR is to be used


      It is very clear when the ref can use it
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #292: Oct 19, 2018 02:33:22 pm

      Do we need a round up on this forum every week? Probably not, but you’ll crack on every single week of the season posting your round up and get no engagement whatsoever, but somehow you’ll still consider it relevant.

      But thanks for ruining another thread where there is potential for interesting discussion!!
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #293: Oct 21, 2018 07:12:49 pm
      Yes we need it, is the short answer.

      The long answer is, the round up is one  post per week, of major decisions that were usually called wrong. And there's already been several this week. Hopefully next year we'll be able to put them right, as other leagues do, and there won't be a need to post round ups.

      The EPL beaks like to think they're a beacon for innovation and initiative. In this case, they're a reminder of how backward they can be.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #294: Oct 27, 2018 08:37:07 am
      Day 9 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      City v Burnley:
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play by City
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Red Card for Kung Fu kick, 3 game suspension.

      City v Burnley:
      Incident: Goal scored by City.
      Decision: Goal given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned, Goal kick given.

      Huddersfield v us:
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by Huddersfield.
      Decision: Corner given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      Huddersfield v us
      Incident:
      Goal for Huddersfield
      Decision: Offside Given.
      VAR Review? Decision Stands.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #295: Nov 03, 2018 10:17:09 am
      Day 10 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Crystal Palace v Arsenal:
      Incident:
      Goal Scored by Arsenal
      Decision: Goal given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned.
      Free kick for handball.

      v Cardiff (h):
      Incident: Penalty claim for us.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned, Penalty Awarded for foul against Salah.

      In October, at least 6 major decisions should have been overturned with VAR, along with numerous others reviewed. Every week so far, there has been a number of clear refereeing errors.

      That would be at least 22 major game-changing decisions called wrong so far, over 100 games up and down the league.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #296: Nov 03, 2018 07:34:52 pm
      Robbed by incompetence. :f_steam:

      Again.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #297: Nov 09, 2018 10:09:04 pm
      Day 11 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Wolves v Spurs:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Wolves.
      Decision: Offside given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Goal given.

      Bournemouth v mancs:
      Incident: Penalty claim by Bournemouth.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned, Penalty awarded against cheating manc.

      Bournemouth v mancs:
      Incident: Goal scored by mancs.
      Decision: Goal given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Free kick for handball against cheating manc.

      Cardiff v Leicester:
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by Leicester.
      Decision: Corner given.
      VAR Review? Decision changed. Offside given.

      West Ham v Burnley
      Incident: Penalty claim by West Ham.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given.

      v Arsenal (a):
      Incident:
      Goal Scored by us.
      Decision: Offside given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned, Goal Awarded.

      v Arsenal (a):
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by us.
      Decision: No action taken.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned, Penalty Awarded against cheating opponent for foul against VVD.

      TBC...
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #298: Nov 09, 2018 10:11:17 pm
      Still don't care, mistakes are something that, for me, are what I love about the game. Be it buy player,  manager or referee.
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      Re: VAR
      Reply #299: Nov 17, 2018 05:03:33 pm
      Day 12 EPL, VAR Quiz:

      Cardiff v Brighton:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Cardiff.
      Decision: Goal given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Offside given.

      Southampton v Watford:
      Incident:
      Penalty claim by Watford.
      Decision: Corner given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Penalty given.

      Southampton v Watford:
      Incident:
      Goal scored by Southampton.
      Decision: Offside given.
      VAR Review? Decision Overturned. Goal given.

      Chelsea v Everton:
      Incident:
      Serious foul play by Chelsea.
      Decision: Free kick. Yellow card given.
      VAR Review? Decision changed. Red Card. 3 game suspension.

      v Fulham (h):
      Incident:
      Serious Foul Play by Fulham.
      Decision: Free kick. Yellow card.
      VAR Review? Decision Changed, Red Card for dangerous challenge on Salah's ankle. 3 Game suspension. 

      TBC...

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