VAR

Absolute F***ing joke, especially the way it's being implemented in the league.

VAR isn't the problem. It's the morons operating or mis operating it that's the problem.

Putting VAR in the hands of English referees is like giving a flame thrower to an arsonist.

Today was an instance (at least on the Origi foul) that cried out for VAR. A foul that you could maybe forgive the ref for missing, but one that upon further review is blatantly obvious.

If they aren't going to put people in charge of it that will administer it correctly, just ditch it and go back to us expecting referees to miss close calls.

With VAR protection.

Let's hope VAR doesnt branch out into condoms ey?

One of the big names behind this is Andre Marriner. Hes been retired from the pitch to coach referees onto the use of this thing.

Quite simply, to save their own arses theyve set the bar to a ridiculously high threshold. The question should be was Origi fouled? The answer is yes, the decision is no goal.

Sadly the question is 'can Origi still walk after the illegal tackle?'

I'm afraid the FA have in their quest to save their own backsides created a system not fit for its purpose.

We zoom in on offsides to the millimetre, we look at handballs to the finger nail. But for general fouls all of a sudden it has to be GBH to be over turned.

With the bar so high it begs the question just how bad does the foul have to be to over turn it?

Origi not a foul but wood on jonny evans was ? Laughable

Be serious. Just acknowledge VAR has been a show in terms of how it’s been implemented in the prem.

you’d argue your point at all costs.

I challenge anyone to argue against the need for VAR, when they see the goal Cardiff "scored" this weekend in the lower divisions. Two offences by the same player and without VAR to check it, the goal stands. Outrageous.

Can shove VAR

So if you do that, the decision stands anyway. What then? It was not handball, it was not offside, so the chances of having it overturned in this league, are remote.

Even with those restrictions on it's use, almost every goal scored in the league this season has been correct, and certainly much more than was the case without VAR. So we are much better off having this system than not.

So if you do that, the decision stands anyway. What then? It was not handball, it was not offside, so the chances of having it overturned in this league, are remote.

I said “you can shove VAR up your arse”...as in shove it up your arse! At least quote me properly and get the context right you muppet.

The fact you still fail to acknowledge the inconsistencies with it shows just how blinkered you are. It’s embarrassing.

An absolute F***ing farce this VAR sh*t is.

They show the replays that the 4th official was viewing, he says no foul on Origi, let's goal stand then they show a complete different angle where you can clearly see Origi get kicked and his calf wobbling from the contact. F***ing bullshit!!!!!

So again they had that slimey, toxic, poisonous, reptile looking c**t Dermot Gallagher at halftime defend Atkinson - along the lines of if he didn’t seem it and deem  it a foul VAR can’t overturn it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Riley & the boys insisted on the "clear and obvious mistake" clause, otherwise they'd refuse to cooperate with the whole VAR thing.
This version of VAR really has to go. Using it to protect refs rather than what it was supposedly intended for, ie correcting mistakes, almost makes it look like it was designed to fail.
"Well you all wanted it, so this is what you get. Do you STILL want it?"

I wouldn't be surprised if Riley & the boys insisted on the "clear and obvious mistake" clause, otherwise they'd refuse to cooperate with the whole VAR thing.
This version of VAR really has to go. Using it to protect refs rather than what it was supposedly intended for, ie correcting mistakes, almost makes it look like it was designed to fail.
"Well you all wanted it, so this is what you get. Do you STILL want it?"

How is it protecting refs, if the ref doesn't see the foul then its no fault of his is it, I thought  the whole point of VAR was to review incidents and see it form multiple angles to assist the ref, the implementation in the UK is awful in this regard, its silly and I'm yet to understand what clear and obvious error means, have there been any clear and obvious errors ruled by var?

Little wonder our refs are so piss poor , if they can’t see a clear and obvious error in that foul , with the aid iof replay what chance do you have of x correct decision in real time , clear and obvious yes so a foul yes , no foul you can’t make this  sh*t up the game is losing integrity and being run by muppets

Little wonder our refs are so piss poor , if they can’t see a clear and obvious error in that foul , with the aid iof replay what chance do you have of x correct decision in real time , clear and obvious yes so a foul yes , no foul you can’t make this  sh*t up the game is losing integrity and being run by muppets

The other thing they pointed out was that the numpty doing the video refereeing has only used VAR for 15 games so of course he won't dare to overrule the great and mighty onfield ref who has had 15 glorious seasons of F***ing up decisions.  IN cricket and most other sports the video referee has enough seniority and experience to overrule onfield referees, if he doesn't have this power or confidence then what the hell is the point in having the technology?
This really needs to get sorted out, I'm actually a fan of VAR in general but they need to sort out this "clear and obvious error" nonsense, its just a bit of fine tuning that's needed, plus why on earth can't the ref refer to a monitor and be hooked up to the stadium and TV speakers so that we can hear the deliberations, that's what makes video refereeing quite interesting and exciting in other sports and it eliminates most arguments when you understand their thinking.

The other thing they pointed out was that the numpty doing the video refereeing has only used VAR for 15 games so of course he won't dare to overrule the great and mighty onfield ref who has had 15 glorious seasons of F***ing up decisions.  IN cricket and most other sports the video referee has enough seniority and experience to overrule onfield referees, if he doesn't have this power or confidence then what the hell is the point in having the technology?
This really needs to get sorted out, I'm actually a fan of VAR in general but they need to sort out this "clear and obvious error" nonsense, its just a bit of fine tuning that's needed, plus why on earth can't the ref refer to a monitor and be hooked up to the stadium and TV speakers so that we can hear the deliberations, that's what makes video refereeing quite interesting and exciting in other sports and it eliminates most arguments when you understand their thinking.

That’s just it , I admit I didn’t want it , but it’s here now so let’s get on and use it the correct way , anyone connected with that yesterday, and still thinks it’s not a clear and obvious foul needs removing from their post because their clearly not up to the job , any average fan in the street could have made that call yesterday , let alone a supposedly top official farcical to say the least .

Hate all this “clear and obvious error” bollocks. An error is an error, whether that’s clear and obvious is irrelevant. Just a bullshit cover for refs to hide behind still.

Hate all this “clear and obvious error” bollocks. An error is an error, whether that’s clear and obvious is irrelevant. Just a bullshit cover for refs to hide behind still.

In cricket you have the margin of error on the umpires side, but it is a really tiny margin of error, ie if a ball is brushing the stumps then its umpires call one way or the other. That is perfectly fine but this clear and obvious error is utter rubbish in football. If it was a foul on Origi then the goal should have been disallowed and it was a foul on Origi which led to the Manure advantage as Robinson had run past his man and was waiting for the return ball from Origi, which would actually have led a to a decent opportunity for us.

An absolute f**king farce this VAR sh*t is.

They show the replays that the 4th official was viewing, he says no foul on Origi, let's goal stand then they show a complete different angle where you can clearly see Origi get kicked and his calf wobbling from the contact. F***ing bullshit!!!!!

Agree VAR continues to get worse by the week at the moment. You'd think it should be getting better as they learn more but it isn't.  I wonder what are blinkered accross the water thinks of it all??

Agree VAR continues to get worse by the week at the moment. You'd think it should be getting better as they learn more but it isn't.  I wonder what are blinkered accross the water thinks of it all??

Haven’t you been keeping up Keith, he thinks it’s getting better and better!

Only the refs in the prem could find a way to use video evidence to protect them further.

Haven’t you been keeping up Keith, he thinks it’s getting better and better!

Only the refs in the prem could find a way to use video evidence to protect them further.

Well that confirms he's still got the roses on 

Yesterday it was proved VAR doesn't work as it never seen United playing for 90 minuets with 12 men

Yesterday it was proved VAR doesn't work as it never seen United playing for 90 minuets with 12 men

13, you forgot Atkinson!!

Well VAR and the Premier League really outdone themselves today. One of the City goals only stood because they took time to look at it and deemed Silva not to have touched the ball so therefore a goal for KDB. If it had touched Silva then Sterling would have been offside and it wouldn’t have stood.

What happens after the game? They award the goal to Silva. So are they going to come out and say once again they’ve messed up? Course not.

Embarrassing.