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      Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST

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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #240: May 21, 2018 03:31:32 pm
      I don't think Madrid have played many teams like us with the exception of Barca. We all know how explosive we can be, especially in the first 20 to 30 mins of a game. Other teams have played us and didn't know how to deal with our pace a forward passing play up to our front men. I'm going 4-2 to us on the night with the first 3 goals coming in the first 30 minutes.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #241: May 21, 2018 03:47:05 pm
      I don't think Madrid have played many teams like us with the exception of Barca. We all know how explosive we can be, especially in the first 20 to 30 mins of a game. Other teams have played us and didn't know how to deal with our pace a forward passing play up to our front men. I'm going 4-2 to us on the night with the first 3 goals coming in the first 30 minutes.

      Well they did play Spurs twice, the team which is probably the closest to us in terms of style, remind me how that went for them.

      Bottom line they are a very very good team but their star is waning whilst ours is very much in the ascendency, I think it will be a great final with plenty of goals and IF, and its a very big if, we can play to our maximum then I think we will win.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #242: May 21, 2018 03:52:02 pm
      Expecting a 4-3-3 of:

      Karius
      TAA Lovren VVD Robertson
      Milner Henderson Lallana
      Salah Firmino Mane

      Largely forward passing players. Gigi to come in for the last 15 mins.

      3-1 win

      Gini will definitely start fella.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #243: May 21, 2018 04:22:58 pm
      Gini needs to start as it'd be suicidal to expect Lallana to put in a big part of 90 minutes. Instead, if needed, i'd prefer him to come in for the last 15 minutes or so if we are tiring out where his energy and pressing would be welcome.

      Can being available for a few minutes would be good too, as he's the most physical midfielder we have along with Ox.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #244: May 21, 2018 04:57:20 pm
      Expecting a 4-3-3 of:

      Karius
      TAA Lovren VVD Robertson
      Milner Henderson Lallana
      Salah Firmino Mane

      Largely forward passing players. Gigi to come in for the last 15 mins.

      3-1 win

      Rather expect Lallana will be sat on the bench, beside Can.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #245: May 21, 2018 05:01:07 pm
      Better to go in as the under dog, less pressure on the team I guess, we were favourites for the Sevilla final and look how that turned out.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #246: May 21, 2018 05:02:13 pm
      Better to go in as the under dog, less pressure on the team I guess, we were favourites for the Sevilla final and look how that turned out.



      I think we enjoy the underdog tag always have done.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #247: May 21, 2018 05:20:43 pm
      are they in kiev?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #248: May 21, 2018 05:59:45 pm
      Unless Can breaks down again, would expect him to be on the bench, even as "the 7th sub" just because he's been a fixture in the side. Subs should be Migs, Clyne (he's fit, yes?), Klavan, Moreno, Can, Lallana and either Ings or Solanke.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #249: May 21, 2018 06:42:43 pm
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #250: May 21, 2018 08:57:06 pm

      @kieranmolyneux
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #251: May 21, 2018 09:07:12 pm
      Don't think Can will feature at all, he's not fit for a start and even if he was close he wouldn't be risked, he'd be a liability having not played for weeks,

      We're down to the bare bones so our starting X1 is predictable....

                                  Karius
             Trent  Lovren Van Dijk Robertson
                               Henderson
                        Milner           Wijnaldom
                Salah        Firmino      Mane

      Bench ;  Migs, Klavan Clyney Moreno
                     Lallana Solanke Ings

             3-1 MIGHTY REDMEN


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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #252: May 21, 2018 09:37:01 pm
      It was reported that RM had returned 2,000 of their ticket allocation.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #253: May 21, 2018 09:59:44 pm

      I don't think I will ever tire of hearing that...its just perfect .
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #254: May 21, 2018 10:01:29 pm
      It was reported that RM had returned 2,000 of their ticket allocation.
      Don't worry there are 2000 scousers called Juan and Pedro queueing up at their ticket office right this minute
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #255: May 21, 2018 10:23:16 pm
      Don't think Can will feature at all, he's not fit for a start and even if he was close he wouldn't be risked, he'd be a liability having not played for weeks,

      We're down to the bare bones so our starting X1 is predictable....

                                  Karius
             Trent  Lovren Van Dijk Robertson
                               Henderson
                        Milner           Wijnaldom
                Salah        Firmino      Mane

      Bench ;  Migs, Klavan Clyney Moreno
                     Lallana Solanke Ings

             3-1 MIGHTY REDMEN


      YNWA

      If Can's fit, I'd have him on the bench at least.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #256: May 22, 2018 12:25:29 am
      If the game heads to extra time, I fancy our chances of really taking advantage, I can't see Madrid matching our lads on fitness, especially when we've had 2 weeks to prepare. Especially Ronaldo, no matter how Zidane wants to dress it up, he's just come back from an injury, he wont last 120mins at his threatening best IMO. Hopefully we get the business done before then mind.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #257: May 22, 2018 02:15:43 am
      Who says we wouldn't have beat those teams as well?

      Not saying we wouldn’t have. Just saying that you don’t beat those three teams in a row through just ‘luck’.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #258: May 22, 2018 02:40:24 am
      If the game heads to extra time, I fancy our chances of really taking advantage, I can't see Madrid matching our lads on fitness, especially when we've had 2 weeks to prepare. Especially Ronaldo, no matter how Zidane wants to dress it up, he's just come back from an injury, he wont last 120mins at his threatening best IMO. Hopefully we get the business done before then mind.

      Agree, but their bench is ridiculous so Zidane would just bring in fresh new legs.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #259: May 22, 2018 06:59:03 am
      If the game heads to extra time, I fancy our chances of really taking advantage, I can't see Madrid matching our lads on fitness, especially when we've had 2 weeks to prepare. Especially Ronaldo, no matter how Zidane wants to dress it up, he's just come back from an injury, he wont last 120mins at his threatening best IMO. Hopefully we get the business done before then mind.

      I’m a lot more worried about Ronaldo than anyone else, the fact is he’s still banging more goals than games he plays. His ratio is second to none, especially in the champions league.

      He’s made for the big occasion and I just hope he has an off game.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #260: May 22, 2018 08:44:21 am
      If the game heads to extra time, I fancy our chances of really taking advantage, I can't see Madrid matching our lads on fitness, especially when we've had 2 weeks to prepare. Especially Ronaldo, no matter how Zidane wants to dress it up, he's just come back from an injury, he wont last 120mins at his threatening best IMO. Hopefully we get the business done before then mind.

      This is when I think our chances lessen. It is well known that we fade towards the end of games due to the intense nature of our play.

      What makes anyone think we would all of a sudden have way more energy come extra time?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #261: May 22, 2018 08:53:35 am
      We need to beat them over 90 mins it's no great surprise they really struggled against Spurs high pressing and we implement that style better than Spurs.
      Milner to run his heart out, closing down and harassing for 70 mins and then Lallana for the last 20.
      Hendo and Gini can easily run full pelt for the 90 mins.

      Hopefully the Kunts are this arrogant.

      https://twitter.com/dankennett/status/998692263172689923?s=21
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #262: May 22, 2018 09:12:58 am
      We need to beat them over 90 mins it's no great surprise they really struggled against Spurs high pressing and we implement that style better than Spurs.
      Milner to run his heart out, closing down and harassing for 70 mins and then Lallana for the last 20.
      Hendo and Gini can easily run full pelt for the 90 mins.

      Hopefully the Kunts are this arrogant.

      https://twitter.com/dankennett/status/998692263172689923?s=21
      Well that's Jürgen's pre match talk sorted then.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #263: May 22, 2018 09:35:48 am
      Genuine question, how do Salah, Can and Mane prepare for the final during Ramadan... surely eating right is the best way to prepare your body for the most intense game they will ever play?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #264: May 22, 2018 09:40:12 am
      Well that's Jürgen's pre match talk sorted then.


      Brilliant. Pin it up on the dressing room, just like Paisley and co.did in the past.

      Let them woefully underestimate us, at their own peril.

      I'm very confident that we'll be buzzing around the pitch for 90 minutes with huge amounts of adrenalin and energy.

      We won't underestimate them however if we play to our peak, they won't be able to stay with us. I don't think Real really knows what's about to hit them.

      I can see Marcelo shitting his pants at the prospect of Salah marauding down his flank and I really feel that Ramos is due another red any time soon as he just can't help himself.
      If our Fab 3 are firing and in-sync, we'll run them off their feet.

      I cannot wait! This week feels like a month.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #265: May 22, 2018 10:00:18 am
      We need to beat them over 90 mins it's no great surprise they really struggled against Spurs high pressing and we implement that style better than Spurs.
      Milner to run his heart out, closing down and harassing for 70 mins and then Lallana for the last 20.
      Hendo and Gini can easily run full pelt for the 90 mins.

      Hopefully the Kunts are this arrogant.

      https://twitter.com/dankennett/status/998692263172689923?s=21

      Oh I really hope the team are as confident as this tw*t of a journalist who when describing Liverpool's defence as terrible forgets about the clean sheets and the fact that we kept Man City, the best attacking team in the world at this moment, to one goal over 2 legs and beat them in 3 matches in one season.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #266: May 22, 2018 10:02:48 am
      Genuine question, how do Salah, Can and Mane prepare for the final during Ramadan... surely eating right is the best way to prepare your body for the most intense game they will ever play?

      Apparently because of work commitments and essentially travelling around, they are allowed to make up the days of fasting when it’s more convenient... if that makes sense.
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      Reply #267: May 22, 2018 10:33:48 am
      Real Madrid really don't know what's about to hit them. All this bravado talk about how they're the calmest they've ever been etc is actually telling me the opposite.They won't have played a team like us, the way we'll have attacks coming from literally anywhere at any time. Counter attack, patient build up play, long balls, crosses - 3 players ready to pounce.
      Wingers bombing forward when the opportunity calls for it.
      Meanwhile they'll have players stranded like Ronaldo waiting for the ball from a disjointed set of individuals with limited team ethic. We'll go out as a team, a solid team of players who are humble yet extremely dangerous. One of the most dangerous teams in terms of variation in potential goal threats.
      Madrid are dodgy at the back and I think their goalie is terrible, he's a flapper.
      Yes, I'm prepared for the worst case scenario, all I hope for is the ref isn't one of those refs who's a mug.
      Klopp deserves this win and of course the players too for all that great football they've played, lit up the champions league like no other.
      The fans, we'll see what happens and try to enjoy the ride.

       
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #268: May 22, 2018 10:39:00 am
      Real Madrid really don't know what's about to hit them. All this bravado talk about how they're the calmest they've ever been etc is actually telling me the opposite.They won't have played a team like us, the way we'll have attacks coming from literally anywhere at any time. Counter attack, patient build up play, long balls, crosses - 3 players ready to pounce.
      Wingers bombing forward when the opportunity calls for it.
      Meanwhile they'll have players stranded like Ronaldo waiting for the ball from a disjointed set of individuals with limited team ethic. We'll go out as a team, a solid team of players who are humble yet extremely dangerous. One of the most dangerous teams in terms of variation in potential goal threats.
      Madrid are dodgy at the back and I think their goalie is terrible, he's a flapper.
      Yes, I'm prepared for the worst case scenario, all I hope for is the ref isn't one of those refs who's a mug.
      Klopp deserves this win and of course the players too for all that great football they've played, lit up the champions league like no other.
      The fans, we'll see what happens and try to enjoy the ride.

       

      The Madrid goalkeeper was excellent against Bayern in the Semi, Ramos was superb also. I dont think you win 2 champions leagues in a row without being pretty decent. Honestly this over confidence ruins me, we will need to be at our best to win this - normal.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #269: May 22, 2018 10:47:30 am
      The Madrid goalkeeper was excellent against Bayern in the Semi, Ramos was superb also. I dont think you win 2 champions leagues in a row without being pretty decent. Honestly this over confidence ruins me, we will need to be at our best to win this - normal.

      It doesn't matter whether us the fans are over confident or not, all that matters is that the players and coaches are 100% focussed on the task ahead of them as I am 100% confident they all are. What I do find interesting though is the mood of the Spanish press, if they are overconfident then that might mean the players are as well and that could play very nicely into our hands when we launch our blitz.

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