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      The Unofficial 2018-19 Liverpool Season Squad Discussion

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      Vicks86
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      Re: The Unofficial 2018-19 Liverpool Season Squad Discussion
      Reply #60: May 27, 2018 07:46:15 am
      I think we can do the easy thing and say Moreno is alright as a back up left back, Clyne as back up RB, Mignolet as a back up to Karius and say Lovren and Matip between them are capable partners for VVD and Klavan a decent backup option to them two.

      Or we can actually look to create real squad depth by buying top quality full backs again this season, a top class goalkeeper, a forward who unlike Ings and Solankie is actually able to break into the current top 3.

      To create real squad depth at title winning level we have to go big.

      City have world class players x 2 and will go again this season, buying players to fight with their already world class squad for positions in the team.

      If we want to finish around 4th every year then Moreno, Klavan, Matip, Clyne, Mignolet, Ings, Solankie, Grujic will probably do tbh.

      City's back up defenders are Danilo, Delph and Stones. Thats hardly class, so forget world class.

      What we need to do is 'upgrade' the first 11, so that the backups are taken care of automatically. While we might be confident of bringing in Fekir, I would like us to be ruthless by completing deals for other 'targets' as well. Alisson, Dembele/Pulisic, a defensive mid (Rabiot?) and Jamaal Lascelles. At least 3 are first-11 material and 2 to shore up the squad depth.

      Its gonna cost, SO BE IT. Fricking United are spending close to 150mil on Fred, Toby and Sandro NOW cos they realize those are weaker areas and must be addressed. Not taking them one at a time but NOW and they are probably not stopping there. We must definitely be cash rich after the last couple of seasons and the sale of Coutinho. We need to do what City did last summer. Address the problem areas AT ONCE.

      Mane/Ings - Firmino/Solanke - Salah/Pulisic
      Keita/Gini - Hendo/Rabiot - Fekir/Chambo
      Robbo/Moreno - Virgil/Lovren - Lascelles/Matip - TAA/Clyne
      Alisson/Karius

      Lallana, Milner, Grujic, Klavan, Gomez, Woodburn, Wilson among other options
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      Reply #61: May 27, 2018 08:19:48 am
      Salah coming off highlighted our lack of depth up top ,Firmino not a player who can get behind or take on people so all the onus on Mane just look at Madrid probably better players on Bench than who started
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      Reply #62: May 29, 2018 10:00:17 am
      So our Midfield options last year...

      Can, Hendo, Milner, Ox, Lallana, Gini

      To so far

      Keita, Fabinho, Hendo, Milner, Ox, Lallana, Gini
      (Assuming Can is gone)

      Bit of an upgrade so far!

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      Reply #63: May 29, 2018 10:02:01 am
      So our Midfield options last year...

      Can, Hendo, Milner, Ox, Lallana, Gini

      To so far

      Keita, Fabinho, Hendo, Milner, Ox, Lallana, Gini
      (Assuming Can is gone)

      Bit of an upgrade so far!



      Add Grujic.

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      Reply #64: May 29, 2018 10:35:24 am

      Grujic is the new Pacheco, Nemeth etc

      Will never get a game for us
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      Reply #65: May 29, 2018 11:28:18 am
      Grujic is the new Pacheco, Nemeth etc

      Will never get a game for us

      He already has!
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      Reply #66: May 29, 2018 11:59:17 am

      I think he can play an important role for us. Every top player in the world was a younger player who didn't have a lot of experience at one point. We bought him, used him (albeit intermittently) and then loaned him so he could play regularly (and he got very good reviews).

      No, he's not our first choice #6  next season, but at some point development bears fruit and that should be this year for Marko.
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      Reply #67: May 29, 2018 12:08:56 pm
      Anyone seen that vid of Felliani getting grief at the game from some Liverpool fans with his representatives on Saturday night, appears he might have been there as a guest of LFC!!

      That rumour a few weeks ago could be true.
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      Re: The Unofficial 2018-19 Liverpool Season Squad Discussion
      Reply #68: May 29, 2018 12:22:22 pm
      Grujic is the new Pacheco, Nemeth etc

      Will never get a game for us

      I'd be surprised if he played for us again.

      Unless we play on selling one of Gini/Hendo/Lallana which I doubt we are.
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      Reply #69: May 29, 2018 12:40:16 pm
      I'd be surprised if he played for us again.

      Unless we play on selling one of Gini/Hendo/Lallana which I doubt we are.

      Grujic would be a decent signing for one of the promoted teams.
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      Reply #70: May 29, 2018 01:30:30 pm
      I'd be surprised if he played for us again.

      Unless we play on selling one of Gini/Hendo/Lallana which I doubt we are.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if Lallana was going, don’t know why, I just think he seems most likely out of anyone...other than Can obviously.
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      Reply #71: May 29, 2018 01:43:12 pm
      I was so disappointed by Hendo during the final: absolutely no leadership, no guts...

      I hope he loses the captaincy and his place in the starting 11.

      I think Klopp mught surprise us by keeping Karius as no. 1.

      The priority is finding at least 2 more strikers/wingers like Mane and Salah who can play anywhere in the front 3. Fekir seems to fit this, given that I expect Ox to play more next season.
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      Reply #72: May 29, 2018 02:43:11 pm
      Wouldn’t be surprised if Lallana was going, don’t know why, I just think he seems most likely out of anyone...other than Can obviously.


      Will be interesting to see how Lallana does with midfielders that can actually distribute from deep. I for one would keep him.
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      Reply #73: May 29, 2018 03:03:24 pm
      I was so disappointed by Hendo during the final: absolutely no leadership, no guts...

      I hope he loses the captaincy

      You know, I don't agree with this, but I also understand it from your point.

      Looking at the winning captains from past to present, they are either tactically intelligent and vocal or the best player on the pitch. Hendo is neither, but I don't think that necessary means he is the wrong choice.
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      Re: The Unofficial 2018-19 Liverpool Season Squad Discussion
      Reply #74: May 29, 2018 04:11:27 pm
      Wouldn’t be surprised if Lallana was going, don’t know why, I just think he seems most likely out of anyone...other than Can obviously.


      Listen to how Jürgen speaks of him and I'd bet my life on him staying. Ox arguably wouldn't have had the amount of impact as he did if Lallana was fit.

      Anyways, I'm f**king excited now.

      Karius

      TAA
      Dejan
      VVD
      Robbo

      Fabinho
      Keita
      Lallana/Ox

      Salah
      Bobby
      Mané

      Oh yes.

      And that's only who we have right now. More signings to come.
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      Reply #75: May 29, 2018 04:50:45 pm
      The World Cup always plays havoc with early season form and results so with that in mind it's good to know that Milner, Fabinho, Keita and Lallana will all have the summer break to rest up and should be fully fit and raring to go come the first game of the season.
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      Reply #76: May 29, 2018 08:36:35 pm
      Anyone seen that vid of Felliani getting grief at the game from some Liverpool fans with his representatives on Saturday night, appears he might have been there as a guest of LFC!!

      That rumour a few weeks ago could be true.

      From Everton to United to Liverpool? That would surely be unprecedented? Not to mention, why in the world would Klopp want an unsound technically buffoon whose only real "ability" is to injure people (either intentionally or clumsily)? I mean I can't stand that tit and if we were to sign him, I'd have a really hard time ever cheering for him. Such a no class turd licker.
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      Reply #77: Jun 03, 2018 04:02:40 pm
      Revamping the midfield.....about time. Only Milner offered a near full package of tools but time is working against him.
      Can......no regrets letting him walk. Great straight away speed and nerve. Few ball skills. Clunky defense.
      Coutinho......despite his astronomical valuation, he should not be a centerpiece of any offense. Relying on 30 meter strikes through 11 defenders has its limits. Tremendous ball skills, tremendous creativity, big leg, lightning quick....but also......slow top gear and zero defensive ambition. Barca will regret their overpay. Happy Liverpool cashed out and even happier the front 3 are the focal point.
      Henderson.....a better Can. Fine athlete but few soccer skills.
      Milner......the best of the lot. I was skeptical at first....but his value to the team was undeniable.
      Chamberlain....his speed through the middle put teams in jeopardy. The guy just needs experience. He was on his way until the injury. Fingers crossed
      Lallana....I don't understand the love for this guy. Ignoring his injury history.....yes he has skill but the guy plays meek and isn't a top of the table caliber athlete. Brits seem to always overvalue their own. And of course his injury history should not be ignored...refer to Sturridge. Lallana is strictly depth...no more IMO
      The new middies.....athleticism plus ball skills.....a refreshing change (I hope)

      OT: Why is Albert Moreno still around? The guy has no business playing defender for any level let alone Liverpool. He needs to rethink his position and find a team that will let him run in space and requires little defensive ambition. MLS?

      More OT: For next season, I'd like to see Liverpool's Big 3 be even more unselfish. At times, Mane seemed to be in goal scoring competition vs Salah....and at times Salah was thinking records. These 3 were at their best when they worked in harmony. Tough to complain....but I saw many lost opportunities.

      Speaking of which...watching Mane vs the best in Europe, I can now appreciate what a superior athlete he is. Many teams had no answer. Mane's main problem is Mane. A bit self confident holding the ball too long, too many offsides, too many fouls.This guy could be a great if he can bring it all together. I felt the same way about Suarez after his first year at Liverpool. The guy couldn't get his shots on net. One year later.....he carried the team.
      Can't wait to see this trio with a year under their belt.....with midfielders that take pressure off them.
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      Reply #78: Jun 08, 2018 06:47:57 am
      So midfield update...

      Hendo Milner Gini

      To

      Keita, Fabinho, Fekir

      That's the best upgrade of a transfer window we've had in my life time (I'm 30 in July)
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      Reply #79: Jun 08, 2018 06:50:50 am
      And to add, so far no sales

      Only can forsee Can going, and Solanke/Ings going on loan.

      If we get Shakiri, and maybe Breswster stays/Origi gets his chance, that will.also be the best squad depth we have had in my lifetime.

      If only we buy a world class goalkeeper, I think we could actually challenge for the league!
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      Reply #80: Jun 08, 2018 07:40:46 am
      I really hope Wilson gets a chance can't do anymore than he has
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      Reply #81: Jun 08, 2018 08:54:38 am
      I really hope Wilson gets a chance can't do anymore than he has

      Yeah hard to see it if we sign both Fekir & Shaqiri. Squad will be loaded with players up top.
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      Reply #82: Jun 08, 2018 09:20:43 am
      After all these years we're finally becoming a world class team again!

      And still under the ownership of FSG.
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      Reply #83: Jun 08, 2018 09:22:23 am
      And to add, so far no sales

      Only can forsee Can going, and Solanke/Ings going on loan.

      If we get Shakiri, and maybe Breswster stays/Origi gets his chance, that will.also be the best squad depth we have had in my lifetime.

      If only we buy a world class goalkeeper, I think we could actually challenge for the league!

      Have to imagine Brewster has been given assurance that he will be in the squad next season. The kid looks fantastic so he'll surely be given a chance.
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      Reply #84: Jun 08, 2018 12:49:49 pm
      Looking at what weve got and what were linked to could we see a change in tact? 4 2 3 1?? Squad with 2 players for each role

                         New Gk/ Karius

                    VVD/Matip  Lovern/ Klavan
      TAA/clyne                                Robbo/Gomez

                   Keita/Hendo  Fabinho/Gini

      Salah/Ox      Fekir/Lallana      Mane/Shaquri

                            Bobby/ new cf

      Plus Milner and Wilson. Loan out or sell rest
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      Reply #85: Jun 08, 2018 12:56:05 pm
      Looking at what weve got and what were linked to could we see a change in tact? 4 2 3 1?? Squad with 2 players for each role

                         New Gk/ Karius

                    VVD/Matip  Lovern/ Klavan
      TAA/clyne                                Robbo/Gomez

                   Keita/Hendo  Fabinho/Gini

      Salah/Ox      Fekir/Lallana      Mane/Shaquri

                            Bobby/ new cf

      Plus Milner and Wilson. Loan out or sell rest

      Don't think we have had a better squad than this since PL era started?

      With Fabinho, Keita and Fekir being so good in possession (they along with Firmino could probably play tiki taka style if asked), I wonder if we will see Firmino occupy the striker spaces more often than last season? And with Mane, could he also be playing higher up like how Salah does? Will be interesting to see how our new midfield changes us.
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      Reply #86: Jun 08, 2018 01:13:04 pm
      Id still love another quality centre back
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      Reply #87: Jun 08, 2018 06:28:00 pm
      Looking at what weve got and what were linked to could we see a change in tact? 4 2 3 1?? Squad with 2 players for each role

                         New Gk/ Karius

                    VVD/Matip  Lovern/ Klavan
      TAA/clyne                                Robbo/Gomez

                   Keita/Hendo  Fabinho/Gini

      Salah/Ox      Fekir/Lallana      Mane/Shaquri

                            Bobby/ new cf

      Plus Milner and Wilson. Loan out or sell rest

      and the best part is we have a world class manager coaching that team. My last wish before the window closes is that new CF you have there as open and we're ready to compete on all fronts next season.
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      Reply #88: Jun 09, 2018 07:57:15 am
      Assuming Fekir is a done deal, get a goalkeeper and another forward in and we will be set imo.
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      Reply #89: Jun 09, 2018 03:33:22 pm
      Assuming Fekir is a done deal, get a goalkeeper and another forward in and we will be set imo.

      Certainly doesn't seem like it is done. Hope I'm totally wrong.

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