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      Pre-Season 18/19

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      bazspeedman
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #175: Jul 14, 2018 05:03:30 pm
      I know this is preseason but this is fairly sh*t.

      It was a fitness building match mate nothing more.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #176: Jul 14, 2018 05:05:01 pm
      Not much to take from that game as expected except Keita looks absolutely top class.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #177: Jul 14, 2018 05:08:06 pm
      Very preseason
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #178: Jul 14, 2018 05:08:23 pm
      It was a fitness building match mate nothing more.

      Yeah I know but it's also an opportunity for fringe players to impress.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #179: Jul 14, 2018 07:08:07 pm
      Yeah I know but it's also an opportunity for fringe players to impress.

      I'd put most of it to fatigue. As the fitness improves, the quality will begin to shine through, and the team selection will become fairly self-evident. I'm not seeing anyone not already a first-team regular really make a significant claim for greater consideration so far, although Sturridge leaving isn't so much of a given, and a few young players, like Ojo, Camacho, Jones and Phillips, show decent signs for the future.

      As others have said, Origi is not making much of a positive impression.

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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #180: Jul 14, 2018 07:18:04 pm
      Think it’s quite clear that Origi has no future with us. If he can’t impress when our front 3 are away, I really can’t see him making an impression when they are back.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #181: Jul 14, 2018 08:06:12 pm
      Agree - he had a good half, looks fresher than most of the other 11, of course he's the youngest.

      Saying that, Milner was probably the one matching him for being industrious.

      Virgil looked commanding on his return to the lineup, and Joel Matip was composed in defense.

      Ojo continues to impress for me with little touches and runs, plus strong on the ball, but nothing was happening in the final third during that first 45 minutes. Sturridge and Origi not really getting anywhere.

      Fabinho looked comfortable, Clyne and Moreno were active and Karius, while doing nothing wrong, is getting heckled by some fans every time he touches the ball.

      0-0 at the break, btw.



      Just finished watching the first half, pretty much agree with it all!
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #182: Jul 14, 2018 09:39:51 pm
      If there was one thing that I took from today's friendly is that we need someone in midfield that can lock defenses... Lallana is not it, or another quality striker and have Firmino be that player

      Both Origi and Sturridge are pretty much out the door, Solanke ... No real future at the club...

      Next 20 plus days will be intresting
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #183: Jul 14, 2018 10:18:01 pm
      If there was one thing that I took from today's friendly is that we need someone in midfield that can lock defenses... Lallana is not it, or another quality striker and have Firmino be that player

      Both Origi and Sturridge are pretty much out the door, Solanke ... No real future at the club...

      Next 20 plus days will be intresting

      I think Keita is that player, just give him time to settle in :) And if not him, Fekir ;)
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #184: Jul 15, 2018 12:41:13 am
      This early on in the pre-season is utterly pointless, and as a fan event, it's a waste of time.

      Half the players are going through the motions knowing that they are leaving or won't be considered as part of the squad. They are playing for their futures elsewhere. Only reason Klopp is playing them is to flog them to another club.

      Then there are the other's who are merely starting to refresh themselves on fitness and beginning to adjust to the club.

      Think some of you are reading too much into these games. I check the result, check the highlights if we score a goal.. nothing much else of interest right now.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #185: Jul 15, 2018 02:46:02 am
      This early on in the pre-season is utterly pointless, and as a fan event, it's a waste of time.

      Half the players are going through the motions knowing that they are leaving or won't be considered as part of the squad. They are playing for their futures elsewhere. Only reason Klopp is playing them is to flog them to another club.

      Then there are the other's who are merely starting to refresh themselves on fitness and beginning to adjust to the club.

      Think some of you are reading too much into these games. I check the result, check the highlights if we score a goal.. nothing much else of interest right now.

      Not "pointless" to watch the team you love and focus on how the players do, the error would be in, as you say, reading too much into what each one means. But "interesting" and "waste of time" are matters of opinion. I make no apology for looking forward to every occasion when Liverpool play. Also, if you don't watch the matches, how do you know half the players are going through the motions?

      BTW, your man Sturridge may well be playing himself back into an important role with the team this season. Maybe it's all just shop window, but I could definitely see him staying and becoming a major contributor again.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #186: Jul 15, 2018 11:41:39 am
      Seems like there are a couple of passes the creator missed out.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlEVEQ5Pws

      Overall, another very good showing imo! Anyone here not impressed yet?
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #187: Jul 15, 2018 08:38:01 pm
      Me! But I haven’t watched any of it yet. Will confirm when I am impressed 😁
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      Reply #188: Jul 16, 2018 03:45:00 pm
      Seems like there are a couple of passes the creator missed out.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlEVEQ5Pws

      Overall, another very good showing imo! Anyone here not impressed yet?

      Right now I think he's keeping it simple and keeps the ball moving all the time, reading the game pretty well.
      That tackle was a quite a hard tackle where he got summoned by the ref.
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      Reply #189: Jul 16, 2018 05:36:55 pm
      Right now I think he's keeping it simple and keeps the ball moving all the time, reading the game pretty well.
      That tackle was a quite a hard tackle where he got summoned by the ref.

      Pretty much what we will see all season from Fabinho. I feel we will be more controlling with him in the middle.

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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #190: Jul 17, 2018 09:40:43 am
      Is anyone on here going to the Blackburn game? My mate let me down so I’m on my own!
      Just wondering so I maybe meet up with a few pre-match?
      (I may have already posted this earlier so apologies)
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #191: Jul 17, 2018 11:58:33 am
      Gini Wijnaldum, Harry Wilson and Danny Ings were absent from training this morning.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #192: Jul 17, 2018 01:57:50 pm
      Gini Wijnaldum, Harry Wilson and Danny Ings were absent from training this morning.

      The photo gallery n the official site showed Wijnaldum working on the side, looked like he was running circuits with a staff member.

      Echo says Wilson on the verge of a move to Derby. Not sure about ings. Still dealing with blisters?
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #193: Jul 17, 2018 02:06:42 pm
      I have a feeling Gini might leave for first team football.

      Hopefully not as he is a top lad and useful squad player.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #194: Jul 17, 2018 06:33:53 pm
      I have a feeling Gini might leave for first team football.

      Hopefully not as he is a top lad and useful squad player.

      Who's to say how long it'll take Naby/Fab to settle in.
      Emre is gone.
      So would be really surprised if we let Gini go this summer.
      But, you never know I guess.

      Would let Lallana go before I'd see Gini leave.

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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #195: Jul 17, 2018 07:53:56 pm
      Who's to say how long it'll take Naby/Fab to settle in.
      Emre is gone.
      So would be really surprised if we let Gini go this summer.
      But, you never know I guess.

      Would let Lallana go before I'd see Gini leave.



      Absolutely this regarding your point on Gini. An injury to one of our midfielders, or failure to settle and/or perform means that the door is wide open for opportunities at this club. Yes, at present he may not be in most people's first eleven but there are so many variables that could and probably will happen which means he'll get his opportunity to perform just like last season and the season before. That said, like every other midfielder at Liverpool, he's going to have to fight for it that bit harder this season.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #196: Jul 17, 2018 08:07:33 pm
      Absolutely this regarding your point on Gini. An injury to one of our midfielders, or failure to settle and/or perform means that the door is wide open for opportunities at this club. Yes, at present he may not be in most people's first eleven but there are so many variables that could and probably will happen which means he'll get his opportunity to perform just like last season and the season before. That said, like every other midfielder at Liverpool, he's going to have to fight for it that bit harder this season.
      Especially with the type of fixture congestion we can have with extended runs in Europe and domestic cups. We finally have built some depth in the squad. Let's not lose it. Hopefully he will want to stay.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #197: Jul 17, 2018 09:39:12 pm
      Absolutely this regarding your point on Gini. An injury to one of our midfielders, or failure to settle and/or perform means that the door is wide open for opportunities at this club. Yes, at present he may not be in most people's first eleven but there are so many variables that could and probably will happen which means he'll get his opportunity to perform just like last season and the season before. That said, like every other midfielder at Liverpool, he's going to have to fight for it that bit harder this season.

      Has to be good that we've people of Gini's quality who'll need to battle to get into the first XI, we've come a ways under Jürgen.
      And looking back to end of last season, want to avoid that again if we can, the team basically picking itself with so many injured coming into the business end of things.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #198: Jul 18, 2018 06:51:53 pm
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #199: Jul 18, 2018 07:06:59 pm

      That smile tells me he is happy with our business this summer :D

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