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      Pre-Season 18/19

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      The Real Donavan Ried
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #725: Jul 29, 2018 04:06:45 pm
      H
      hillarious.
      So shaqiri’s performance today made you a believer? Before you doubted his ability?
      I just believe that some folk haven’t got a clue about players ability.
      Either put forward a intelligent opinion based upon fact or just keep stum.
      With many players I choose to read rather than post because I am not entirely sure how I feel about a player.
      Shaqiri was an obviously good signing at a ridiculously low price.

      The only doubt I had with Shaqiri was at times for Stoke the player looked disinterested, but that could have had more to do with the players around him than his character itself...
      Let's face it playing for stoke he was never going to be  playing in Europe on a regular basis, and only then if it was down to winning a FA, which again cause's a little concern as to why he signed for Stoke in the first place, and the fact that it seemed no other PL team came in for him... Great player, hard working and obviously skilled, and on the whole a great addition to our rank,quality player, a steal for £13-£17 m, But I would be lying if I said that i had no concerns   
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #726: Jul 29, 2018 10:27:15 pm
      The only doubt I had with Shaqiri was at times for Stoke the player looked disinterested, but that could have had more to do with the players around him than his character itself...
      Let's face it playing for stoke he was never going to be  playing in Europe on a regular basis, and only then if it was down to winning a FA, which again cause's a little concern as to why he signed for Stoke in the first place, and the fact that it seemed no other PL team came in for him... Great player, hard working and obviously skilled, and on the whole a great addition to our rank,quality player, a steal for £13-£17 m, But I would be lying if I said that i had no concerns

      Charlie Adam might've said Shaqiri didn't pull his weight but I doubt our scouts and Klopp thought that. And Charlie might have done us a slight favour in that Shaqiri will have that little bit extra to prove. Every player that comes here feels motivated but that little bit of extra won't do us any harm. I like Shaqiri, he isn't short on confidence and he'll try stuff without worrying if it goes wrong.

      It's game on for Shaqiri. Good signing.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #727: Jul 30, 2018 02:38:55 am
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #728: Jul 30, 2018 07:01:30 am
      Charlie Adam might've said Shaqiri didn't pull his weight but I doubt our scouts and Klopp thought that. And Charlie might have done us a slight favour in that Shaqiri will have that little bit extra to prove. Every player that comes here feels motivated but that little bit of extra won't do us any harm. I like Shaqiri, he isn't short on confidence and he'll try stuff without worrying if it goes wrong.

      It's game on for Shaqiri. Good signing.

      Where was Charlie Adam in Stokes hardest time? Getting sent off. Where was he in a crucial penalty shootout for us? Blazing his penalty over. That weapon isn’t someone worth paying attention too, especially when if it hadn’t been for Shaqiri, then they’d have been much worse off.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #729: Jul 30, 2018 09:48:17 am
      Where was Charlie Adam in Stokes hardest time? Getting sent off. Where was he in a crucial penalty shootout for us? Blazing his penalty over. That weapon isn’t someone worth paying attention too, especially when if it hadn’t been for Shaqiri, then they’d have been much worse off.

      Fat Charlie calling a player lazy.

      The irony is not lost on me.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #730: Jul 30, 2018 10:17:01 am

      Urrgh.  They've even ruined the simplicity of a league table.  Games Played anybody?

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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #731: Jul 30, 2018 10:54:59 am
      Urrgh.  They've even ruined the simplicity of a league table.  Games Played anybody?



      A point for losing a penalty shootout?! Bit of a daft thing to have.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #732: Jul 30, 2018 11:22:12 am
      A point for losing a penalty shootout?! Bit of a daft thing to have.

      Seems they award a point for a draw in normal time, and then an extra point if you win the penalty shootout.
      So, that drawn game could be 2 points. Whilst a win in regular time is just 1 point more!

      Really odd.

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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #733: Jul 30, 2018 11:29:14 am
      A point for losing a penalty shootout?! Bit of a daft thing to have.


      Although could be quite good fun if applied to a normal league, say you have a draw at the end of a game, each team gets a point each then you have a penalty shoot out and the winning team gets the extra point or the only point on offer goes to the team that wins the penalty shoot out.
      Another way of doing it is that the team with most shots on target gets an extra point, would encourage more attacking play. Would perhaps have to qualify shots on target as being within a certain distance of goal to prevent a defensive team from just firing the ball at goal from their own half.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #734: Jul 30, 2018 11:31:33 am
      Although could be quite good fun if applied to a normal league, say you have a draw at the end of a game, each team gets a point each then you have a penalty shoot out and the winning team gets the extra point.
      Another way of doing it is that the team with most shots on target gets an extra point, would encourage more attacking play. Would perhaps have to qualify shots on target as being within a certain distance of goal to prevent a defensive team from juts firing the ball at goal from their own half.

       :o

      Or just don't?  :)

      Leave this type of rubbish in American thought up pre season nonsense cups 😓
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      Reply #735: Jul 30, 2018 11:42:28 am
      :o

      Or just don't?  :)

      Leave this type of rubbish in American thought up pre season nonsense cups 😓

      Yeah probably best, I was just thinking of ways to stop crap negative teams like Burnley, Stoke, West Brom etc being less bus parkey
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #736: Jul 30, 2018 12:00:01 pm
      Yeah probably best, I was just thinking of ways to stop crap negative teams like Burnley, Stoke, West Brom etc being less bus parkey

      I have no issues with them doing that Mate. Defending is a big part and a valid tactic in footy. Always has been.
      It's certainly a way that the smaller clubs to compete, it's an easier way to make your budget stretch and coach those types.

      My issue comes when teams with vastly vastly greater budgets bus park.. teams that a responsibility to entertain don't and who can afford the difference makers in the final third


      What you think Keith? 😉
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #737: Jul 30, 2018 12:04:58 pm
      Another chance for UK viewers to see the Utd-Liverpool game tonight at 9pm on FreeSports. 

      It's channel 95.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #738: Jul 30, 2018 12:16:25 pm
      Another chance for UK viewers to see the Utd-Liverpool game tonight at 9pm on FreeSports. 

      It's channel 95.

      422 on sky
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #739: Jul 30, 2018 01:37:19 pm
      Charlie Adam might've said Shaqiri didn't pull his weight but I doubt our scouts and Klopp thought that. And Charlie might have done us a slight favour in that Shaqiri will have that little bit extra to prove. Every player that comes here feels motivated but that little bit of extra won't do us any harm. I like Shaqiri, he isn't short on confidence and he'll try stuff without worrying if it goes wrong.

      It's game on for Shaqiri. Good signing.
      Charlie Adam did f**k all for us when he was here aside from take a wage so it is most welcome if he did in regards to Shaqiri  ;D
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #740: Jul 30, 2018 01:50:39 pm
      Did someone just put Charlie Adam and weight in the same sentence? Joke somewhere in there ..

      Caught replay of first half and it was amazing stuff at times wirhout Bobby and Keita too.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #741: Jul 30, 2018 02:11:06 pm
      :o

      Or just don't?  :)

      Leave this type of rubbish in American thought up pre season nonsense cups 😓

      Ah, the use of "American" as a pejorative. How nice.  :)

      Saying that, I have no idea why they started keeping any kind of table for this. It's all about staging matches in high-capacity stadia for fans who ordinarily don't get to see big-name teams from Europe. They seem to have become pretty successful at doing that and I guess the money for the clubs must be right because they keep coming over here.

      The National Hockey League does something like what is mentioned, as basically a compromise between the "there must be a winner" mindset and the recognition that a team battling evenly for the duration of a game, but then losing in the artificial add-on of the event,  would be unfairly denied some sporting compensation. To me , it just shows how wrong the "there must be a winner" motif. Of course, every sport over here has playoffs, where sometimes half of the teams in a competition get to start over again (after as many as 162 games) and win the championship based solely on a hot streak they catch in the final month, forgetting how mediocre they were for the bulk of the season.

      There's no need to change anything about how the table is reckoned in football.

      Now let's get 12 points from our four matches before the international break.

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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #742: Jul 30, 2018 03:26:56 pm
      France Training Squad
      Liverpool squad: Kelleher, Grabara, Alisson, Karius, Van Dijk, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson, Phillips, Gomez, Alexander-Arnold, Clyne, Matip, Milner, Keita, Fabinho, Grujic, Lallana, Camacho, Wijnaldum, Jones, Sturridge, Ings, Origi, Shaqiri, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Solanke.

      https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/309711-liverpool-fc-france-training-camp

      Good to see TAA allowed back sooner! Surprised Ings is there.
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      Reply #743: Jul 30, 2018 03:31:18 pm
      France Training Squad
      Liverpool squad: Kelleher, Grabara, Alisson, Karius, Van Dijk, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson, Phillips, Gomez, Alexander-Arnold, Clyne, Matip, Milner, Keita, Fabinho, Grujic, Lallana, Camacho, Wijnaldum, Jones, Sturridge, Ings, Origi, Shaqiri, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Solanke.

      https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/309711-liverpool-fc-france-training-camp

      Good to see TAA allowed back sooner! Surprised Ings is there.

      Does that mean interest in Ings is cooling? Matip back fit, Allison, Bobby and Trent arrive. Also out from the USA squad: Markovic, Chiriivella, Woodburn and Ojo are out.
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      Reply #744: Jul 30, 2018 03:39:49 pm
      France Training Squad
      Liverpool squad: Kelleher, Grabara, Alisson, Karius, Van Dijk, Klavan, Moreno, Robertson, Phillips, Gomez, Alexander-Arnold, Clyne, Matip, Milner, Keita, Fabinho, Grujic, Lallana, Camacho, Wijnaldum, Jones, Sturridge, Ings, Origi, Shaqiri, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Solanke.

      https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/309711-liverpool-fc-france-training-camp

      Good to see TAA allowed back sooner! Surprised Ings is there.

      Yeah surprised by Ings. Thought a move was close when he didn't go to the states.

      No Mignolet though..  maybe just maybe he's got that job at McDonald's
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #745: Jul 30, 2018 03:41:36 pm
      Ah, the use of "American" as a pejorative. How nice.  :)

      Saying that, I have no idea why they started keeping any kind of table for this. It's all about staging matches in high-capacity stadia for fans who ordinarily don't get to see big-name teams from Europe. They seem to have become pretty successful at doing that and I guess the money for the clubs must be right because they keep coming over here.

      The National Hockey League does something like what is mentioned, as basically a compromise between the "there must be a winner" mindset and the recognition that a team battling evenly for the duration of a game, but then losing in the artificial add-on of the event,  would be unfairly denied some sporting compensation. To me , it just shows how wrong the "there must be a winner" motif. Of course, every sport over here has playoffs, where sometimes half of the teams in a competition get to start over again (after as many as 162 games) and win the championship based solely on a hot streak they catch in the final month, forgetting how mediocre they were for the bulk of the season.

      There's no need to change anything about how the table is reckoned in football.

      Now let's get 12 points from our four matches before the international break.

      It is an American thought up concept though 🤷‍♂️
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #746: Jul 30, 2018 04:19:26 pm
      Does that mean interest in Ings is cooling? Matip back fit, Allison, Bobby and Trent arrive. Also out from the USA squad: Markovic, Chiriivella, Woodburn and Ojo are out.

      Woodburn completed a loan deal and Chiriivella I believe has agreed to a transfer.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #747: Jul 30, 2018 04:20:00 pm
      It is an American thought up concept though 🤷‍♂️

      So is chocolate covered bacon. I'll fight you if you think that's a bad idea.
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #748: Jul 30, 2018 04:31:42 pm
      So is chocolate covered bacon. I'll fight you if you think that's a bad idea.

      You can keep that sh*te too 👌
      « Last Edit: Jul 30, 2018 04:37:15 pm by Kopite78 »
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      Re: Pre-Season 18/19
      Reply #749: Jul 30, 2018 04:35:56 pm
      So is chocolate covered bacon.



      Disgusting!

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