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      Xherdan Shaqiri Player Thread

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      Re: Xherdan Shaqiri Player Thread
      Reply #75: Jul 29, 2018 12:43:00 pm
      That's what the lad is capable of, that's why the vast majority here thought it's literally a no brainer at 13m. Long season ahead, let's hope he keeps his head, puts in the hard work and keeps playing at the top level he can. Will be very interesting.

      He has to if he wants to play. He needs to performance every single minute because if not, better players will have his place.
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      Reply #76: Jul 29, 2018 12:57:39 pm
      That's what the lad is capable of, that's why the vast majority here thought it's literally a no brainer at 13m. Long season ahead, let's hope he keeps his head, puts in the hard work and keeps playing at the top level he can. Will be very interesting.

      Made up watching the lad, he looked hungry and went for everything with total commitment.
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      Re: Xherdan Shaqiri Player Thread
      Reply #77: Jul 29, 2018 09:49:23 pm
      Cracking start but let's not get too carried away here, he has always been able to score spectacular goals. It will be interestingly to see if he can find the consistency he will need to be a regular for LFC.

      Ps. I don't think he is our new number 10 although he can play there. I would still like to see a player like Fekir come in before the window closes.
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      Reply #78: Jul 30, 2018 04:46:35 pm
      £12m is great business. A no brainer indeed.
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      Reply #79: Jul 30, 2018 06:24:07 pm
      One thing i will say about Shaqiri so far is that in every picture you see of the guy he looks so damn happy to be here. Am intrigued by what he will bring to the team this season as i am not someone who was very excited when i first heard his name come up.
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      Reply #80: Jul 31, 2018 01:57:10 am
      Shaquri is the product of everything that is wrong with transfer market. People have so much time on their hands that they delve into silly aspects of football instead of looking at the overall product on the field. I love Danny Ings, but the fact that he is garnering nearly twice the value of Shaquri is laughable. People are quick to point out work rate and attitude and leave out his power, shot shaping abilities, and that he played with absolute trash at Stoke. Besides, I have watched the guy for some time. I don’t see work rate issues at all.
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      Reply #81: Jul 31, 2018 06:31:55 am
      I love Danny Ings, but the fact that he is garnering nearly twice the value of Shaquri is laughable.

      Because Shaqiri had a low release clause, Ings doesn’t...
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      Reply #82: Jul 31, 2018 09:21:03 am
      It seems Shaq spent his entire time at Stoke p*ssing in Charlie Adam's cornflakes... 
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      Reply #83: Jul 31, 2018 09:49:25 am
      Turns out we've replaced Coutinho for £12m. Bargain.
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      Reply #84: Jul 31, 2018 11:10:57 am
      Because Shaqiri had a low release clause, Ings doesn’t...


      I think the point is that it was weird that there wasn't a bidding contest, starting at £13m and rising a lot higher. Not complaining though.
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      Reply #85: Jul 31, 2018 11:20:38 am
      Bidding higher than the release clause would be silly....
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      Reply #86: Jul 31, 2018 11:23:50 am
      Bidding higher than the release clause would be silly....

      Yeah by Bidding war I kind of thought it was clear I meant more than 1 club were after him, ie rival bids the same kind of thing can push up a house price or think of it like an auction perhaps.
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      Reply #87: Jul 31, 2018 11:30:22 am
      I get what you mean, but the clu  would have to accept 13m from us even if another club had bid more, a bidding war would have only got the player more money in terms of a contract
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      Reply #88: Jul 31, 2018 11:46:12 am
      I get what you mean, but the clu  would have to accept 13m from us even if another club had bid more, a bidding war would have only got the player more money in terms of a contract

      No it doesn't work like that. If only one club bid £13m then yes they would have to sell at that amount, as per the release clause, but if another club then bids £15m the selling club will of course go for that, then the original club comes back in with a higher offer etc etc.
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      Reply #89: Jul 31, 2018 12:18:18 pm
      Turns out we've replaced Coutinho for £12m. Bargain.

      Nope
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      Reply #90: Jul 31, 2018 12:23:01 pm
      Turns out we've replaced Coutinho for £12m. Bargain.

      Not quite, but we have replaced him with a lot of very good players, players we needed more than we needed Coutinho, ie a top CB, top GK, top DM and top CM plus a very interesting player in Shaquiri who I feel could turn out to be THE signing of the season, in relation to cost.
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      Reply #91: Jul 31, 2018 12:27:30 pm

      I think Shaqiri could be a revelation this season for us.
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      Reply #92: Jul 31, 2018 12:31:35 pm
      No it doesn't work like that. If only one club bid £13m then yes they would have to sell at that amount, as per the release clause, but if another club then bids £15m the selling club will of course go for that, then the original club comes back in with a higher offer etc etc.

      Another club could have bid 100m but they would still have to accept ours as it met the release clause....
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      Reply #93: Jul 31, 2018 12:40:19 pm
      Another club could have bid 100m but they would still have to accept ours as it met the release clause....

      I'm fairly sure release clauses don't work like that, but I'd love to get the opinion of someone else. If they really do work like that that they HAVE to sell to the first bidder and no other bidders are allowed then they are a complete bullshit thing for any club to agree to, you are basically capping the value of your asset and potentially losing money. Surely any club can bid against another club for a player and the higher bid will normally win, the release clause being met merely opens negotiations.
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      Reply #94: Jul 31, 2018 12:42:44 pm
      It's not to the first bidder, they have to accept the bid by anyone who offers the release clause amount
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      Reply #95: Jul 31, 2018 01:02:15 pm
      No it doesn't work like that. If only one club bid £13m then yes they would have to sell at that amount, as per the release clause, but if another club then bids £15m the selling club will of course go for that, then the original club comes back in with a higher offer etc etc.

      As long as the clause is met then the club can speak to the player

      Two things

      As SS said even if another club offered more then the player could still talk to us as it's written in his contract that if a club triggers the clause he can

      Also why would the other club offer more because they know the first point.. they couldn't bully the other club out of it as the player has that price written in his contract for that exact reason

      It would simply come down to who the players wanted

      Now what you don't know is that there may have been 5 clubs who triggered it but the agent said that the player has his heart set on Liverpool
      They then drop away as opposed to having a  headline written that he turned them down for Liverpool etc..

      There was talk of other clubs anyway (The Ev, Newcatsle) and a serious bid from Lazio who put an offer to his agent the day before he signed for us which he ultimately turned down

      Point being though is that the 13m was there..  and because it was there is no bidding war in terms of price.. the only bidding war is in essence his wages and package

      I'm fairly sure release clauses don't work like that, but I'd love to get the opinion of someone else. If they really do work like that that they HAVE to sell to the first bidder and no other bidders are allowed then they are a complete bullshit thing for any club to agree to, you are basically capping the value of your asset and potentially losing money. Surely any club can bid against another club for a player and the higher bid will normally win, the release clause being met merely opens negotiations.

      What you're not taking into consideration is that it was a relegation release clause, Stoke probably felt they were an established club and it wouldn't be triggered.
      However they are a smaller club to players like Shaqiri and he may well have insisted on it or he wouldn't sign for them

      They probably felt like you he would be worth more than 13m but hey f**k it we won't go down so just let him have it and get him through the door
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      Re: Xherdan Shaqiri Player Thread
      Reply #96: Jul 31, 2018 01:37:13 pm
      It seems Shaq spent his entire time at Stoke p*ssing in Charlie Adam's cornflakes... 

      Just thought I might throw this in here.

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      Reply #97: Jul 31, 2018 01:52:37 pm
      I think Shaqiri could be a revelation this season for us.

      He might very well turn out to be a very good signing for us, but Coutinho's replacement? Haha he's nowhere near that level, people are just getting carried away by smiles and a nice but meaningless goal. I appreciate the pre-season levels of optimism but this is a bit too much. :D
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      Reply #98: Jul 31, 2018 02:07:04 pm
      Just thought I might throw this in here.

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      The iconic players gotta be Carra surely? :lmao:
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      Re: Xherdan Shaqiri Player Thread
      Reply #99: Jul 31, 2018 02:09:00 pm
      No it doesn't work like that. If only one club bid £13m then yes they would have to sell at that amount, as per the release clause, but if another club then bids £15m the selling club will of course go for that, then the original club comes back in with a higher offer etc etc.

      No. If someone offers the release clause, the club have no choice but to accept it, regardless of what any other team offers. If a team offers more than the release clause then they are stupid, what would be the point, any offer that triggers the release have to be accepted, the only way there can be a bidding war is on the contract for the player.

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