Watford 3-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

Has Lovren been that bad?

No he hasn't.

We've just been sloppy all around. And we're missing Hendo badly.

Poor lad looks like he's got a long-term one.

We're missing Hendo out there. Quite aimless thus far.

Could be similar to the ox injury.

Has Lovren been that bad?

No mate he hasn't he's has done OK to come in cold with very little game time but that doesn't stop the purists pulling that lad apart

Lovren looks rusty which is to be expected given how much time he has missed

Could be similar to the ox injury.

he has had knee problems before I think

If that's what everybody wants - Sloppy, poor, hopeless, weak, wasteful, vulnerable - as a fan base it's absolutely shocking.

Being pedantic but I thought we had the ball when the game was stopped

Haven’t got near the goal over the past 25 mins

Once a player gets singled out it like a f***in herd mentality picking on the lad Lovren has been ok not brilliant but then nobody has

watch the game he has made two or three really good interceptions and his over all game is no worse or better than the other lads

I have been watching the game but the way we play we simply need a CB who is better with his feet than Lovren. I know he can spray a pass when he is given 20000mintues to pick it out, but under pressure, he crumbles.

I think Lovren still is a massive weak link whenever he plays for us, but that's just opinion, would much rather Matip in there.

If that's what everybody wants - Sloppy, poor, hopeless, weak, wasteful, vulnerable - as a fan base it's absolutely shocking.

Winning ugly is better than losing prettily. Yes, we should be playing better but we're still grinding out the wins.

Doesn’t look good, but so good to see so many Liverpool players going over to him as he goes off. Hope it proves to be not as serious as it looks, but if so I hope he makes a good recovery!

F**k off deeney you snide f**ker

That's a F***ing awful tackle

Deeney you c**t

How is that not a yellow for Deaney?

How's he not booked ffs

how the F**k isn't that a card

Not even a yellow hahah

VAR is there because of decisions like that these REFS are sh*te

Relax. We have someone called Peter on the bench. His job is to take in what the opposition is doing in the first half and find solutions for the second half. He will present the situation at half time and we will carve them out in the second half. Remember we have Peter.

Once a yard dog always a yard dog.

Oliver has gone from best ref in the league to biggest bottler after the introduction of VAR

Lost all his instincts

Another clear yellow