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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1650: May 20, 2020 07:01:32 pm
      Watford defender Adrian Mariappa says he is one of three people who tested positive for coronavirus at the club.

      "It was a big surprise because I haven't really left the house," Mariappa, 33, told the Telegraph.

      "Apart from some exercise and the odd walk with the kids, I've mainly just been homeschooling and keeping fit.

      "My lifestyle is very quiet, certainly no parties or going out or anything, so I really don't know how I got it."

      The Jamaica international said he has had no symptoms and felt "as fit as ever".

      He added: "It's quite scary how you can feel absolutely fine and not really have left the house, and yet still get the virus.

      "If it wasn't for the fact I had gone back to training and had this test, then I'd never have found out that I had the virus and I would just be getting on with things as normal. That's obviously quite a strange thought."

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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1651: May 20, 2020 08:06:11 pm
      I disagree, if you are in lockdown and are socially distancing etc then it should be almost impossible to catch Covid-19, if that's not true then what the f**k is the point in ruining the economy with this lockdown??



      Yes I read the article..

      The player Apparantly was obeying the lockdown rules. However, what you don't seem to grasp is that you can remain indoors 24 hours a day during lockdown and still pick virus up. Most members on here will tell you the same thing. What can't you understand ??
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      Reply #1652: May 21, 2020 01:41:43 am
      I'm a cop in America and I have had to respond to a lot of calls where people were complaining of COVID like symptoms. My county has 24 confirmed cases out of a population of about 16k. In all the calls I've gone to assist EMS with these calls I've only come in contact with one person who tested positive. Definitely a sucky experience to have to get tested and live at the office awaiting my results and not seeing my family.

      Dealing with people who didn't adhere to social distancing and weren't taken the virus seriously was somewhat nerve racking. I wasn't so much worried about the virus as I was thinking of all the other things I was supposed to be cognisent of ( distance, PPE, asking medical questions) while investigating a crime. It definitely divided my attention in situations that I needed to be thinking of officer safety. It was also bizarre to go from call to call and see the panic that most people adopted when someone new showed up.

      Things have definitely calmed down these last few weeks. I quit wearing a mask and have somewhat come out of hiding. I certainly think it's a serious thing, however, I talk with a lot of EMTs and nurses and most have said it just didn't end up as bad as we thought it was gonna be. Most people who get it never know they had it. It certainly effects older people, people with underlining illnesses, and I certainly don't wanna minimize this disease as so many have lost loved ones from it. At the same time I want people to understand that in terms of a pandemic this is a fairly mild one. Shelter in place / stay at home orders need to be lifted in areas that the data shows aren't high risk and target population certainly need to social distances themselves until this dies down. But to kill the economy and spread fear fpr something the data contradicts is ridiculous. I certainly wouldn't take action on a call where some small business owner is trying to work to keep his livelihood alive (our Sheriff is one the same page).
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1653: May 21, 2020 06:01:42 am
      I'm a cop in America and I have had to respond to a lot of calls where people were complaining of COVID like symptoms. My county has 24 confirmed cases out of a population of about 16k. In all the calls I've gone to assist EMS with these calls I've only come in contact with one person who tested positive. Definitely a sucky experience to have to get tested and live at the office awaiting my results and not seeing my family.

      Dealing with people who didn't adhere to social distancing and weren't taken the virus seriously was somewhat nerve racking. I wasn't so much worried about the virus as I was thinking of all the other things I was supposed to be cognisent of ( distance, PPE, asking medical questions) while investigating a crime. It definitely divided my attention in situations that I needed to be thinking of officer safety. It was also bizarre to go from call to call and see the panic that most people adopted when someone new showed up.

      Things have definitely calmed down these last few weeks. I quit wearing a mask and have somewhat come out of hiding. I certainly think it's a serious thing, however, I talk with a lot of EMTs and nurses and most have said it just didn't end up as bad as we thought it was gonna be. Most people who get it never know they had it. It certainly effects older people, people with underlining illnesses, and I certainly don't wanna minimize this disease as so many have lost loved ones from it. At the same time I want people to understand that in terms of a pandemic this is a fairly mild one. Shelter in place / stay at home orders need to be lifted in areas that the data shows aren't high risk and target population certainly need to social distances themselves until this dies down. But to kill the economy and spread fear fpr something the data contradicts is ridiculous. I certainly wouldn't take action on a call where some small business owner is trying to work to keep his livelihood alive (our Sheriff is one the same page).

      Take care mate!

      It's good that we're back to training :)
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1654: May 21, 2020 01:03:35 pm
      Obviously being in lockdown doesn't give 100% immunity.Be of interest how many were tested and how many tested positive.Probably a very tiny %.

      Problem will be playing games.They will have to test say a 3 days before kick off..but what if one player then test positive..he's out and so are all the others who have been in contact with him..that's if they do track & trace.All aspects of football are in the contact sport category.

      Goals scored will be a issue...no contact, just back in position for the kick off. Presumably they will have to get the "all clear" from the scientific advisors before the games can be arranged.

      This is the biggest issue I think mate, and if that team had played a game 4 days earlier does that the mean they just played also have to go into 7 day lockdown. The schedule could be subject to a ton of disruptions. Just win our next 2 bloody games is all that matters! Then they can drop the curtain!
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1655: May 21, 2020 01:57:08 pm
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      Clubs will still be promoted and relegated from all three divisions of the English Football League if seasons are ended amid the coronavirus crisis.

      Play-offs will also be played, but with no more than four teams.

      The EFL has confirmed that 51% of clubs in either the Championship, League One or League Two need to agree for a campaign to be curtailed.

      More to follow.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52758193
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1656: May 21, 2020 02:10:31 pm
      In Mexico, eight football players from a top division club have tested positive for coronavirus. None of the players for Santos Laguna shows any symptoms. The rest of the team are still waiting for their test results.

      Not far off a coronavirus XI. In one team. 

      What is becoming increasingly fascinating to me is that it's taken the wide scale testing in footballers for us to begin to get a handle on just how many people have no symptoms.
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      Reply #1657: May 21, 2020 02:22:16 pm

      Basically it's all set up now that those leagues will be settled on PPG if the season cant be completed. I'm guessing it's the same for the premier league too.
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1658: May 21, 2020 04:37:42 pm
      I'm a cop in America and I have had to respond to a lot of calls where people were complaining of COVID like symptoms. My county has 24 confirmed cases out of a population of about 16k. In all the calls I've gone to assist EMS with these calls I've only come in contact with one person who tested positive. Definitely a sucky experience to have to get tested and live at the office awaiting my results and not seeing my family.

      Dealing with people who didn't adhere to social distancing and weren't taken the virus seriously was somewhat nerve racking. I wasn't so much worried about the virus as I was thinking of all the other things I was supposed to be cognisent of ( distance, PPE, asking medical questions) while investigating a crime. It definitely divided my attention in situations that I needed to be thinking of officer safety. It was also bizarre to go from call to call and see the panic that most people adopted when someone new showed up.

      Things have definitely calmed down these last few weeks. I quit wearing a mask and have somewhat come out of hiding. I certainly think it's a serious thing, however, I talk with a lot of EMTs and nurses and most have said it just didn't end up as bad as we thought it was gonna be. Most people who get it never know they had it. It certainly effects older people, people with underlining illnesses, and I certainly don't wanna minimize this disease as so many have lost loved ones from it. At the same time I want people to understand that in terms of a pandemic this is a fairly mild one. Shelter in place / stay at home orders need to be lifted in areas that the data shows aren't high risk and target population certainly need to social distances themselves until this dies down. But to kill the economy and spread fear fpr something the data contradicts is ridiculous. I certainly wouldn't take action on a call where some small business owner is trying to work to keep his livelihood alive (our Sheriff is one the same page).
         

      Y'all in Virginia no? Reading their numbers are wrong.Florida,vermont,georgia also miscounted/double counted.https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/21/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html,for details. 
                                                                                           Has anyone seen any details of a player getting seriously ill with he virus,any in hospital?
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1659: May 21, 2020 09:49:57 pm
         

      Y'all in Virginia no? Reading their numbers are wrong.Florida,vermont,georgia also miscounted/double counted.https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/21/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html,for details. 
                                                                                           Has anyone seen any details of a player getting seriously ill with he virus,any in hospital?

      Yeah, VA. Appomattox. Dude the numbers are super weird. We have 24 cases but apparently its only like 18 people and they make a new case when they retest the person after time and they still have it. Our Governor wanted 2% of VA tested before phase 1 started so the National Guard went and tested nursing homes and prisons. Smh
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1660: May 23, 2020 03:22:43 pm
      La Liga can resume behind closed doors from 8 June, says Spain's prime minister Pedro Sanchez.

      The league's president Javier Tebas said he had hoped Spain's top flight would restart on 12 June, although La Liga is yet to confirm a restart date.

      La Liga players this week started training in groups of no more than 10.

      "Spain has done what it should and now new horizons are opening for everyone. The time has come to bring back many day-to-day activities," said Sanchez.

      "From 8 June, La Liga will be back. Spanish football has a huge following but it will not be the only recreational activity that will return."

      The Spanish second division is also set to resume at the same time as the top flight, with reports in Spain suggesting the derby between Sevilla and Real Betis will be the first La Liga game to take place.

      "We are very pleased with the decision," said Tebas. "It is the result of the great work of clubs, players, coaches, CSD (National Sports Council) and agents.

      "But we cannot lower our guard, it is important to follow health regulations and ensure the pandemic doesn't come back."

      Football in Spain was suspended on 12 March because of the coronavirus pandemic.

      The players in the top two divisions were only able to return to individual training in early May after being tested for the virus.

      Five players tested positive for the virus across Spain's top two divisions and went into isolation prior to the first phase of group training being allowed from 18 May.

      La Liga teams have 11 games to play this season, with leaders Barcelona two points ahead of Real Madrid at the top of the division.

      Meanwhile, Portugal's Primeira Liga will resume on 3 June, with Portimonense against Gil Vicente and Famalicao hosting leaders Porto.

      Porto lead rivals Benfica by a point with 10 rounds left.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52783201
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1661: May 23, 2020 04:57:13 pm
      So now things are moving back to playing are there the equivalent of  the likes of the null and void/ Troy Deeney whining in the press in Portugal,Spain? Or is it just a brit thing?
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1662: May 23, 2020 05:57:47 pm
      Yes I read the article..

      The player Apparantly was obeying the lockdown rules. However, what you don't seem to grasp is that you can remain indoors 24 hours a day during lockdown and still pick virus up. Most members on here will tell you the same thing. What can't you understand ??

      I don't understand how you would catch the virus in that circumstance, can you please explain it to me.
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      Reply #1663: May 23, 2020 07:18:41 pm
      So now things are moving back to playing are there the equivalent of  the likes of the null and void/ Troy Deeney whining in the press in Portugal,Spain? Or is it just a brit thing?

      To be fair to Troy he has got a reason to say what he said considering he has a kid with underlying health issues.
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      Reply #1664: May 23, 2020 07:22:19 pm
      I don't understand how you would catch the virus in that circumstance, can you please explain it to me.

      Could be anything from coins picked up when going the shop, touching handles etc. The virus can stay on metals etc for up to three days if not continually cleaned.

      He is the classic case of an asymptomatic carrier and without the testing, would never have known he had it.
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1665: May 23, 2020 07:29:22 pm
      In Mexico, eight football players from a top division club have tested positive for coronavirus. None of the players for Santos Laguna shows any symptoms. The rest of the team are still waiting for their test results.

      Not far off a coronavirus XI. In one team. 

      What is becoming increasingly fascinating to me is that it's taken the wide scale testing in footballers for us to begin to get a handle on just how many people have no symptoms.

      Mexico cancels season with no champion named.

      https://napavalleyregister.com/sports/mexico-cancels-incomplete-soccer-season-over-virus-concerns/article_31fd445e-a14c-5627-acef-23774b1f985a.html

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      Reply #1666: May 23, 2020 07:36:18 pm
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Liga_MX_season - looks very close at the top, first and second separated only by goal difference.
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1667: May 23, 2020 07:53:54 pm
      I'm a cop in America and I have had to respond to a lot of calls where people were complaining of COVID like symptoms. My county has 24 confirmed cases out of a population of about 16k. In all the calls I've gone to assist EMS with these calls I've only come in contact with one person who tested positive. Definitely a sucky experience to have to get tested and live at the office awaiting my results and not seeing my family.

      Dealing with people who didn't adhere to social distancing and weren't taken the virus seriously was somewhat nerve racking. I wasn't so much worried about the virus as I was thinking of all the other things I was supposed to be cognisent of ( distance, PPE, asking medical questions) while investigating a crime. It definitely divided my attention in situations that I needed to be thinking of officer safety. It was also bizarre to go from call to call and see the panic that most people adopted when someone new showed up.

      Things have definitely calmed down these last few weeks. I quit wearing a mask and have somewhat come out of hiding. I certainly think it's a serious thing, however, I talk with a lot of EMTs and nurses and most have said it just didn't end up as bad as we thought it was gonna be. Most people who get it never know they had it. It certainly effects older people, people with underlining illnesses, and I certainly don't wanna minimize this disease as so many have lost loved ones from it. At the same time I want people to understand that in terms of a pandemic this is a fairly mild one. Shelter in place / stay at home orders need to be lifted in areas that the data shows aren't high risk and target population certainly need to social distances themselves until this dies down. But to kill the economy and spread fear fpr something the data contradicts is ridiculous. I certainly wouldn't take action on a call where some small business owner is trying to work to keep his livelihood alive (our Sheriff is one the same page).

      I live in New Jersey and I have $2500 warrant for my arrest.  I’ve called multiple police departments and the warrant is for a failure to appear for a traffic violation.

      The officer said “So you want to get this cleared up?”

      I said “yes sir I do”

      He asked why I failed to appear?”

      I said “I was at work”

      He said “John they will not even take you right now.”
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      Re: Coronavirus effect on football
      Reply #1668: May 23, 2020 08:03:41 pm
      Sorry should have posted this in The Arkles Covid thread
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      Reply #1669: May 23, 2020 08:23:25 pm
      I don't understand how you would catch the virus in that circumstance, can you please explain it to me.

      Huyton Red just named one or two of many ways heimdall. Basically saying even if you do everything right can still catch it.

      Let me explain how life as been for me two weeks before lockdown. First of all I'm in the 20% bracket  whereas I'm more vunrable than others to possible catching the virus due to my health issues, not going into my health side as isn't warranted.

      To some people (( definitely me )) I'm more paranoid than most so extra careful, many will say over extreme but can't be helped. It's my choice and if it means there's 0.1 less chance of me getting the virus then it's worth.

      My two children were doing my shopping until last week whereas I've now ventured out. However, when they bring my shopping they don't come into the house as you can even walk in after picking something off your shoes, highly unlikely but still possible. They leave shopping at the door, I use gloves in case any germs on bags or even  my shopping goods till I wash/clean as many items as possible in a bacteria & virus protector.

      Food doesn't stock itself, many staff don't use gloves/masks so can inadvertently pass virus un be knowing that they may have the virus also. Hell, I even spray my soles when I come. I also put my cloths straight into the wash. Yes I'm going overboard as stated in my paranoia.

      Literally anyone can just brush again and accidentally rub something on your clothing, you have a itch and scratch accordingly. Thus leaving it on your hands and then you may just rub your/nose/mouth/eyes and outside chance you could pick something up.

      Apparantly one of the worse places for picking virus up is shopping and petrol stations. So even if you don't go still possible a outsider can bring it to your doorstep. It's that bad for me I don't even open mail up without gloves then still wash my hands.

      Like I've said, if there's 0.1 chance less  of me picking virus up through my paranoia them I've atleast tried my best.

      Hope this helps.m

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      Reply #1670: May 23, 2020 08:53:08 pm
      Could be anything from coins picked up when going the shop, touching handles etc. The virus can stay on metals etc for up to three days if not continually cleaned.

      He is the classic case of an asymptomatic carrier and without the testing, would never have known he had it.

      Ah but Keith said you can catch it even in isolation at home 24hrs a day, BTW there is no reason to touch coins or door handles, they should wear gloves and/or use hand sanitiser. Honestly if you are careful at the moment then it's very hard to catch this.
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      Reply #1671: May 23, 2020 08:58:47 pm
      Huyton Red just named one or two of many ways heimdall. Basically saying even if you do everything right can still catch it.

      Let me explain how life as been for me two weeks before lockdown. First of all I'm in the 20% bracket  whereas I'm more vunrable than others to possible catching the virus due to my health issues, not going into my health side as isn't warranted.

      To some people (( definitely me )) I'm more paranoid than most so extra careful, many will say over extreme but can't be helped. It's my choice and if it means there's 0.1 less chance of me getting the virus then it's worth.

      My two children were doing my shopping until last week whereas I've now ventured out. However, when they bring my shopping they don't come into the house as you can even walk in after picking something off your shoes, highly unlikely but still possible. They leave shopping at the door, I use gloves in case any germs on bags or even  my shopping goods till I wash/clean as many items as possible in a bacteria & virus protector.

      Food doesn't stock itself, many staff don't use gloves/masks so can inadvertently pass virus un be knowing that they may have the virus also. Hell, I even spray my soles when I come. I also put my cloths straight into the wash. Yes I'm going overboard as stated in my paranoia.

      Literally anyone can just brush again and accidentally rub something on your clothing, you have a itch and scratch accordingly. Thus leaving it on your hands and then you may just rub your/nose/mouth/eyes and outside chance you could pick something up.

      Apparantly one of the worse places for picking virus up is shopping and petrol stations. So even if you don't go still possible a outsider can bring it to your doorstep. It's that bad for me I don't even open mail up without gloves then still wash my hands.

      Like I've said, if there's 0.1 chance less  of me picking virus up through my paranoia them I've atleast tried my best.

      Hope this helps.m



      It explains your paranoia not how someone in isolation at home can catch it, by the way it's a bit of a myth that it survives for long on surfaces, so you can chill out a bit about that.

      Anyway stay safe Keith.
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      Reply #1672: Yesterday at 05:24:58 am
      I live in New Jersey and I have $2500 warrant for my arrest.  I’ve called multiple police departments and the warrant is for a failure to appear for a traffic violation.

      The officer said “So you want to get this cleared up?”

      I said “yes sir I do”

      He asked why I failed to appear?”

      I said “I was at work”

      He said “John they will not even take you right now.”

      Dude, I arrested a violent felon on a domestic and charged him with abduction, domestic assualt, and malicious wounding. He got a bond because they said the jail wouldn't take him.
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      Reply #1673: Yesterday at 06:20:44 am
      The CDC here now seems somewhat to be backing off of the bit about getting it from surfaces. From NPR:

      "COVID-19 spreads mainly through close contact from person to person," Haynes said. "While it may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose or possibly their eyes, this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads."

      "Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 to persons from surfaces contaminated with the virus has not been documented," the agency says on its page about disinfecting surfaces. But it adds, "Current evidence suggests that SARS-CoV-2 may remain viable for hours to days on surfaces made from a variety of materials."

      Not to suggest going out to lick the nearest public counter top. My main takeaway from this another recent stories is that even the scientists are not entirely sure about the details beyond that it's very contagious and very deadly. There's little-to-no immunity and there's no vaccine.
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      Reply #1674: Yesterday at 09:19:29 am
      The CDC here now seems somewhat to be backing off of the bit about getting it from surfaces. From NPR:

      "COVID-19 spreads mainly through close contact from person to person," Haynes said. "While it may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose or possibly their eyes, this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads."


      100% agree with you Robby hense the 0.1 factor  ;D

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