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      Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.

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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #25: Jun 30, 2020 01:47:41 pm
      Nothing wrong with discussing it.

      I know I'm under no delusion that my opinion matters beyond the confines of friendly conversation. I'm comfortable with that.


      I know I get it, and I used to enjoy discussing it. just dont anymore. ;D

      Just getting old now.  :lmao:
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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #26: Jun 30, 2020 01:53:40 pm
      AFCON tournament to be put back until January 2022
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      Reply #27: Jun 30, 2020 01:58:24 pm
      Great news about the African Cup. Next bit of news should come in the next week or so about Citeh and CAS. Hopefully the league will take action with a points deduction... Number 20 inbound  :kop5cf8koxp6: or am I getting carried away?
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      Reply #28: Jun 30, 2020 01:59:15 pm
      How many would sell the Ox and buy Traore...mmm...


      Fixed it .

       ;D

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      Reply #29: Jun 30, 2020 02:00:13 pm
      AFCON tournament to be put back until January 2022

      Excellent news.
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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #30: Jun 30, 2020 02:17:02 pm
      GK;
      Keep: Allison, Adrian, Kelleher
      Sell: Karius
      Loan: Gabara

      DEF;
      Keep: Dijk, Gomez, Robertson, Matip, Trent, Williams, Hoever
      Sell: Lovren, Phillps
      Loan: Van den Berg

      MID;
      Keep: Fabinho, Gini, Milner, Keita, Henderson, Chamberlain, Jones
      Sell: Shaqiri, Grujic, Ejaria, Wilson, Ojo
      Loan: Woodburn

      FWD;
      Keep: Firmino, Mane, Salah, Minimino, Elliot
      Sell: Origi, Awoniyi
      Loan: Brewster

      And then I'd try to bring in a promising young LB, CB and CF (if not, take Brewster off the loan list and keep)

      EDIT:
      My desired signings, young and should be quite cheap if on a covid budget.
      LB - Alphonso Davies
      CB - Kabak
      CF - Boadu
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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #31: Jun 30, 2020 04:08:57 pm
      and how well did Adrian do against Chelsea in the FA Cup and Ateletico in CL, he cost us both games, there is no debate over that, he''s a liability similar to Mignolet, and in those prem games he played we conceded in every single game I think.



      May be we should sell the forwards for now scoring enough, and the defence too for letting those pesky opposition players too close to goal while we're at it.

      Oh, and we  did keep a clean sheet during Adrián's spell, so you can drop that stat.
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      Reply #32: Jun 30, 2020 04:10:55 pm
      Going off what Klopp has said and recent articles I expect we'll move on just the players out on loan and make no signings of note apart from maybe a young player or two.

      EDIT:
      My desired signings, young and should be quite cheap if on a covid budget.
      LB - Alphonso Davies
      CB - Kabak
      CF - Boadu

      I mean Alphonso Davies won't be cheap - 50m at least I'd say! Kid is one of the best left backs around already and Bayern don't sell many that aren't past their peak.
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      Reply #33: Jun 30, 2020 04:16:00 pm
      AFCON tournament to be put back until January 2022

      Great news.

      Takes the pressure off having to sign a backup for Sadio and Mo this Summer.

      We can hold firm and go for Sancho next Summer.
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      Reply #34: Jun 30, 2020 04:19:00 pm
      Going off what Klopp has said and recent articles I expect we'll move on just the players out on loan and make no signings of note apart from maybe a young player or two.

      I mean Alphonso Davies won't be cheap - 50m at least I'd say! Kid is one of the best left backs around already and Bayern don't sell many that aren't past their peak.

      Agreed. Can't see us signing anyone apart from a backup keeper and CB if Karius and Lovren leave.

      Maybe a LB too if we can find a decent young player for a low fee.

      That will be our lot I think.
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      Reply #35: Jun 30, 2020 04:56:02 pm
      and how well did Adrian do against Chelsea in the FA Cup and Ateletico in CL, he cost us both games, there is no debate over that, he''s a liability similar to Mignolet, and in those prem games he played we conceded in every single game I think.

      Call me greedy but now the PL is in the bag I'm feeling stinking rotten about going out of the CL in the way we did. If Atletico or anyone else played us off the park I'd have no problem in getting beaten by the better side on the day but we were defending Champions and Adrian cost us.
      IMO both Adrian and Karius cost us European titles.. A little harsh on Adrian maybe but both aren't good enough for Liverpool even as back up, I'd sooner have a older experienced back up keeper who won't let you down like Reina or Begovic who are both on loan from their parent clubs.
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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #36: Jun 30, 2020 05:39:46 pm
      May be we should sell the forwards for now scoring enough, and the defence too for letting those pesky opposition players too close to goal while we're at it.

      Oh, and we  did keep a clean sheet during Adrián's spell, so you can drop that stat.

      You are quite right we kept clean sheets against Burnley and Sheff Utd, I still think we need a better backup keeper than Adrian though, he cost us against Chelsea and Atletico.
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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #37: Jun 30, 2020 05:40:16 pm
      Call me greedy but now the PL is in the bag I'm feeling stinking rotten about going out of the CL in the way we did. If Atletico or anyone else played us off the park I'd have no problem in getting beaten by the better side on the day but we were defending Champions and Adrian cost us.
      IMO both Adrian and Karius cost us European titles.. A little harsh on Adrian maybe but both aren't good enough for Liverpool even as back up, I'd sooner have a older experienced back up keeper who won't let you down like Reina or Begovic who are both on loan from their parent clubs.
       

      Reina wont let ya down?? C'mon, dude was always one step away from a f**k up and he can't even get into a sh*t villa team at the mo.
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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #38: Jun 30, 2020 05:41:03 pm
      Going off what Klopp has said and recent articles I expect we'll move on just the players out on loan and make no signings of note apart from maybe a young player or two.

      I mean Alphonso Davies won't be cheap - 50m at least I'd say! Kid is one of the best left backs around already and Bayern don't sell many that aren't past their peak.
      True on Davies, but I rate the lad a lot, if he was available for around 40 I’d bite there hands off, he’d rip apart that left side in the Prem for years to come.
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      Reply #39: Jul 01, 2020 10:27:08 am
       

      Reina wont let ya down?? C'mon, dude was always one step away from a f**k up and he can't even get into a sh*t villa team at the mo.

      I'll concede that one maybe not Reina now but a confident experienced back up, Adrian hardly looks composed.
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      Re: Liverpool Champions squad: To keep, loan or sell.
      Reply #40: Jul 01, 2020 11:11:11 am
      he can't even get into a sh*t villa team at the mo.

      He is at the end of his career, he’s said about potentially retiring at the end of the season.
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      Reply #41: Jul 01, 2020 11:14:44 am
      I'll concede that one maybe not Reina now but a confident experienced back up, Adrian hardly looks composed.

      The goalkeeper conundrum.

      Anyone backing up Alisson has a thankless task.

      Karius ?  Its obvious the lad's confidence was blown out of the water on the biggest stage of all nor did it help that RM played the Dark Arts that night.
      Adrian?  Did better than I thought ....but he would end up being fallible on the big stage in the big games.

      Klopp's ruthless when he needs to be and maybe the Anfield analytics team are seeing something in Karius whilst on loan for us to hang on to him.
      Knowing what we know , the Red's Hogwarts Wizards will be tracking a few goalkeepers and we may see a surprising, new " Who Is That ?" player come in.

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      Reply #42: Jul 01, 2020 11:30:48 am
      Recall either Klopp or Pep saying they’re looking for a left back who can play in other positions. No one is displacing Robbo but can get their games elsewhere.

      Bukayo Saka is the perfect profile.

      He’ll be relatively cheap in a market like this. Can play both flanks, behind a striker and left back. Bags of potential, him.

      Not arsed overall, though. Reckon Jones is nailed for more games and after assessing how the finances and market are Elliott and Neco etc. will plug any gaps.
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      Reply #43: Jul 01, 2020 11:37:34 am
      Recall either Klopp or Pep saying they’re looking for a left back who can play in other positions. No one is displacing Robbo but can get their games elsewhere.

      Bukayo Saka is the perfect profile.

      He’ll be relatively cheap in a market like this. Can play both flanks, behind a striker and left back. Bags of potential, him.

      Not arsed overall, though. Reckon Jones is nailed for more games and after assessing how the finances and market are Elliott and Neco etc. will plug any gaps.

      The beauty of Milner can fill in at either FB or in midfield absolutely priceless players like that
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      Reply #44: Jul 01, 2020 11:54:00 am
      The beauty of Milner can fill in at either FB or in midfield absolutely priceless players like that

      Unfortunately getting on with age and looked limited playing there in the derby. About time we had a decent back up lb option instead of constantly having to rely on Milner.
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      Reply #45: Jul 01, 2020 11:58:19 am
      Karius, Lovren, Shaqiri and Origi are probably the ones you wouldn't raise an eyebrow at if they went on to leave this summer.

      I think this is a really critical period to ensure we have plenty of youngsters in and around the senior world class players, because this is arguably the best education any footballer in Europe can be undergoing across all positions.

      Of the four players above the one I'd least like to see leave is Origi because he has proven time and time again that he can do the scrappy things that perhaps the other front three can't do in certain situations.
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      Reply #46: Jul 01, 2020 12:03:07 pm
      Unfortunately getting on with age and looked limited playing there in the derby. About time we had a decent back up lb option instead of constantly having to rely on Milner.

      He only played about 20 minutes before picking up an injury to be fair.

      Think the club might be in a bit of limbo over LB, perhaps unsure whether to ride it out with Milner as the cover until Larouchi shows whether he is ready or not.

      But I can’t think who would even make a decent back up at left back, it seems like a slim pickings area of the game at the moment, especially in terms of who would fit our style of play.
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      Reply #47: Jul 01, 2020 12:13:05 pm
      He only played about 20 minutes before picking up an injury to be fair.

      Think the club might be in a bit of limbo over LB, perhaps unsure whether to ride it out with Milner as the cover until Larouchi shows whether he is ready or not.

      But I can’t think who would even make a decent back up at left back, it seems like a slim pickings area of the game at the moment, especially in terms of who would fit our style of play.
      This is why I like the idea of Alphonso Davies, he’s a LB but just as comfortable at LM and with his ridiculous pace I’m sure would make a great LW too, he could be cover for Robbo and Mane.
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      Reply #48: Jul 01, 2020 12:34:31 pm
      This is why I like the idea of Alphonso Davies, he’s a LB but just as comfortable at LM and with his ridiculous pace I’m sure would make a great LW too, he could be cover for Robbo and Mane.

      Superb player, the couple of times I've seen him in Champions League games, can't see Bayern being too keen on selling and can't see us affording him.
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      Reply #49: Jul 01, 2020 12:36:09 pm
      This is why I like the idea of Alphonso Davies, he’s a LB but just as comfortable at LM and with his ridiculous pace I’m sure would make a great LW too, he could be cover for Robbo and Mane.

      No doubt looks a real talent but we simply 100% aren’t going to pay 60mill+ for a player to come in as cover for Robbo. There’s more chance of us signing Mbappe.

      If we go for anyone then my money would be on Saka, but even then it’s not really solving the issue of cover at LB because whilst he can play there, ultimately he’s a winger.

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