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      Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)

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      Robby The Z
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      Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Sep 21, 2020 07:16:57 am
      Playing at a 2nd Division club which should allow for full rotation. The only question is if some of our players will be loaned or transferred out before the match.

      Here is a shot at the team:

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      Williams, Gomez, Koumetio, Tsmikas
      Grujic, Milner, Jones
      Origi, Minamino, Jota
      Subs: Kelleher, van Den Berg, Elliott, Shaqiri, Brewster, plus 2 kids who won't be coming on.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #1: Sep 21, 2020 07:57:36 am
      I like your team, but cant see Grujic starting, hes defo one whos about to be sold.

      shaq will start if fit. needs the games.

      Jota sub maybe, elliott to start.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #2: Sep 21, 2020 08:04:12 am
                         Adrian
      Williams, Gomez, Van der Berg, Tsmikas
                             Milner
                 Shaqiri            Jones
       Elliott                                        Jota
                           Minamino

      If Shaqiri is for sale. I would go with Keita in place of him.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #3: Sep 21, 2020 08:35:13 am
                         Adrian
      Williams, Gomez, Van der Berg, Tsmikas
                             Milner
                 Shaqiri            Jones
       Elliott                                        Jota
                           Minamino

      If Shaqiri is for sale. I would go with Keita in place of him.

      To me, Shaq is the most expendable player in the team. Totally surplus to requirements .

      Keita I imagine will be saved for Arsenal.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #4: Sep 21, 2020 09:32:14 am
      To me, Shaq is the most expendable player in the team. Totally surplus to requirements .

      Technically he's a very good footballer and he's proved in the few chances he's been given that he's able to create & effect games but for whatever reason Klopp just doesn't seem to trust him. I think it could be due to him not being able to play the Klopp style of pressing football, I remember as the players were going into the dressing room at HT in one particular game (can't remember who we were playing but it was early/mid 18/19 season) and Klopp was giving him an absolute bollocking, something which I thought was pretty out of character as he was really going at him in front of all of the cameras. Funny thing was, I thought Shaqiri was playing well up to that point, but obviously there must have been things off the ball which he wasn't doing correctly and after that his minutes seemed to drastically decrease.

      If it is to do with pressing and work off the ball I don't think his body shape does him any favours. It's obviously no fault of his own but the dimensions of his torso / legs aren't that of an athlete who you'd expect to press the ball for 90 minutes and I imagine he finds it harder to do than the likes of Mane or Firmino, no matter what level of fitness he's at. If he does leave hopefully he finds a club which suits his game better because as I said, technically he is a very good player

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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #5: Sep 21, 2020 10:04:04 am
      James pearce has today mentioned shaq as maybe 1 to be leaving, along with Brewster (loan), Grujic, wilson, karius, nat philips & Origi. So be interesting to see if any of those start on thursday.

      Id expect klopp to start guys who will be staying.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #6: Sep 21, 2020 10:07:35 am
      James pearce has today mentioned shaq as maybe 1 to be leaving, along with Brewster (loan), Grujic, wilson, karius, nat philips & Origi. So be interesting to see if any of those start on thursday.

      Id expect klopp to start guys who will be staying.

      or he might want to put players in the shop window
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #7: Sep 21, 2020 10:21:10 am
      or he might want to put players in the shop window

      And risk injury?

      You dont think that anyone interested in any of those players wont already be aware of them?

      They arent going to be surprised by seeing them surely?

      Who's that Origi lad there? Never seen the lad before.. quick buy him
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #8: Sep 21, 2020 10:22:28 am
      And risk injury?

      You dont think that anyone interested in any of those players wont already be aware of them?

      They arent going to be surprised by seeing them surely?

      Who's that Origi lad there? Never seen the lad before.. quick buy him

      I honestly think most people have totally forgotten about Karius, unfortunately I haven't, I still have nightmares of that CL final!!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #9: Sep 21, 2020 10:57:57 am
      Did Jota play in last round for Wolves?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #10: Sep 21, 2020 11:03:08 am
      Did Jota play in last round for Wolves?

      No Bri, not in their 18 for it
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #11: Sep 21, 2020 11:04:38 am

      Thanks, look forward to seeing him Thursday so
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #12: Sep 21, 2020 11:11:45 am
      Technically he's a very good footballer and he's proved in the few chances he's been given that he's able to create & effect games but for whatever reason Klopp just doesn't seem to trust him. I think it could be due to him not being able to play the Klopp style of pressing football, I remember as the players were going into the dressing room at HT in one particular game (can't remember who we were playing but it was early/mid 18/19 season) and Klopp was giving him an absolute bollocking, something which I thought was pretty out of character as he was really going at him in front of all of the cameras. Funny thing was, I thought Shaqiri was playing well up to that point, but obviously there must have been things off the ball which he wasn't doing correctly and after that his minutes seemed to drastically decrease.

      If it is to do with pressing and work off the ball I don't think his body shape does him any favours. It's obviously no fault of his own but the dimensions of his torso / legs aren't that of an athlete who you'd expect to press the ball for 90 minutes and I imagine he finds it harder to do than the likes of Mane or Firmino, no matter what level of fitness he's at. If he does leave hopefully he finds a club which suits his game better because as I said, technically he is a very good player

      I think you hit on the main issues. I agree he has ability but we have other players who can do what he does and as you say, Klopp doesn't seem to be too inclined to use him.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #13: Sep 21, 2020 11:30:23 am
      James pearce has today mentioned shaq as maybe 1 to be leaving, along with Brewster (loan), Grujic, wilson, karius, nat philips & Origi. So be interesting to see if any of those start on thursday.

      Id expect klopp to start guys who will be staying.

      Great business if we get some good deals out of those fringe players should leave us with a nice net profit.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #14: Sep 21, 2020 01:22:32 pm
      And risk injury?

      You dont think that anyone interested in any of those players wont already be aware of them?

      They arent going to be surprised by seeing them surely?

      Who's that Origi lad there? Never seen the lad before.. quick buy him

      agreed.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #15: Sep 21, 2020 01:23:25 pm
      I honestly think most people have totally forgotten about Karius, unfortunately I haven't, I still have nightmares of that CL final!!

      aye defo dont play karius, imagine he dropped the ball v a div.2 team. ;D
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #16: Sep 21, 2020 01:28:53 pm
      aye defo dont play karius, imagine he dropped the ball v a div.2 team. ;D

      Same reason we won't be able to sell him. He'll end up leaving on a free, but he may continue drawing a wage from us.


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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #17: Sep 21, 2020 01:40:58 pm
      Same reason we won't be able to sell him. He'll end up leaving on a free, but he may continue drawing a wage from us.

      It’s called a write off. Remind the transfer committee about Mario and the £16m write off. £5m for Kairus? He could find another career in modelling?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #18: Sep 21, 2020 01:49:09 pm
      Anybody’s guess for Thursday so, fwiw, here’s my pick.....in a 4-2-3-1....


                                                                Adrian

                                            Williams  Phillips. Koumetio. Tsimikas

                                                       Milner.         Jones

                                              Elliot.         Minamino.        Jota

                                                               Brewster

                           Bench; Kelleher, Smith, Fabinho, Ox, Keita, Origi , Clarkson



      Attack attack attack attack attack, all f***in night, it’s the carrier bag cup who the f**k cares, we can win this 8-6  or 1-0 not bothered it’s a great competition for schooling your kids, of course you want to go as far as you can so we can beat Citeh in the final, other than that Pfft !



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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #19: Sep 21, 2020 06:24:57 pm
      1st Division Lincoln
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #20: Sep 21, 2020 08:54:39 pm
      Technically he's a very good footballer and he's proved in the few chances he's been given that he's able to create & effect games but for whatever reason Klopp just doesn't seem to trust him. I think it could be due to him not being able to play the Klopp style of pressing football, I remember as the players were going into the dressing room at HT in one particular game (can't remember who we were playing but it was early/mid 18/19 season) and Klopp was giving him an absolute bollocking, something which I thought was pretty out of character as he was really going at him in front of all of the cameras. Funny thing was, I thought Shaqiri was playing well up to that point, but obviously there must have been things off the ball which he wasn't doing correctly and after that his minutes seemed to drastically decrease.

      If it is to do with pressing and work off the ball I don't think his body shape does him any favours. It's obviously no fault of his own but the dimensions of his torso / legs aren't that of an athlete who you'd expect to press the ball for 90 minutes and I imagine he finds it harder to do than the likes of Mane or Firmino, no matter what level of fitness he's at. If he does leave hopefully he finds a club which suits his game better because as I said, technically he is a very good player



      Shaq is a class act, but has had big boots to follow, when all is fit, he will add to the game.  He played for all the greats, and has seen it all
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #21: Sep 21, 2020 10:36:32 pm

      League One to be precise. My mistake.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #22: Sep 21, 2020 10:37:25 pm
      Anybody’s guess for Thursday so, fwiw, here’s my pick.....in a 4-2-3-1....


                                                                Adrian

                                            Williams  Phillips. Koumetio. Tsimikas

                                                       Milner.         Jones

                                              Elliot.         Minamino.        Jota

                                                               Brewster

                           Bench; Kelleher, Smith, Fabinho, Ox, Keita, Origi , Clarkson



      Attack attack attack attack attack, all f***in night, it’s the carrier bag cup who the f**k cares, we can win this 8-6  or 1-0 not bothered it’s a great competition for schooling your kids, of course you want to go as far as you can so we can beat Citeh in the final, other than that Pfft !



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      Billy, your team is a fair shout, but who is this Smith fellow you've got listed on the bench? Did we make another purchase today?  ;D
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #23: Sep 22, 2020 07:46:47 am
      Same reason we won't be able to sell him. He'll end up leaving on a free, but he may continue drawing a wage from us.




      Yea. its s shame tbh, cos theres a goalie there, his confidence is just shot. Id imagine we will do everything we can to help the lad get a decent move.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Lincoln City vs. Liverpool, EFL Cup (Thurs.24th September 19:45 KO)
      Reply #24: Sep 22, 2020 07:47:59 am
      Brewster wont start if the palace stories are true. He may even be a palace player by thursday.

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