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      Robby The Z
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      Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Sep 25, 2020 11:37:20 pm
      First of two matches on four days vs. the Gunners. dropped the Community Shield on penalties to Mikel Arteta's team a few weeks ago, and lost in Premier League play in after clinching the title with seven matches to spare.

      I guess my main lineup question is whether Fabinho remains at center back for this one. Joe Gomez was pictured in training today, but the back looked tight as can be with Virgil and Fab paired together.

      I expect Thiago to be on from the start in midfield, and then you have competition for the other places between Henderson, Fabinho, Gini, Naby and Curtis Jones (Milner not in training today, has a calf injury). Arsenal can be expected to defend fairly deep the way they did in their previous matches for us, so that might signal a start for Naby Keita.

      What say ye?

      « Last Edit: Sep 28, 2020 04:03:45 pm by JD »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #1: Sep 26, 2020 12:25:40 am
      With Henderson out for this match I would expect Thaigo to slot in. I expect to see what we saw a couple moths ago with Arsenal defend deep and hope one of their strikers can drum up piece of magic.

      -----------------Alisson----------------
      TAA----Fabinho---VdD----Robbo
      ------Gini------Thiago-----Ketia---
      --Salah--------Firmino------Mane

      Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Tsimikas, Jones, Shaqiri, Jota, Minamino
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #2: Sep 26, 2020 12:42:03 am
      Your not far wrong there adammac with that line up. Jurgens only big decision is really does he put Joe Gomez back in and if so will Thiago take the place of Gini or Keita if Fabinho slots in at 6. Small details😉
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #3: Sep 26, 2020 06:22:22 am
      We owe them one.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #4: Sep 26, 2020 08:20:53 am
      With Henderson out for this match I would expect Thaigo to slot in. I expect to see what we saw a couple moths ago with Arsenal defend deep and hope one of their strikers can drum up piece of magic.

      -----------------Alisson----------------
      TAA----Fabinho---VdD----Robbo
      ------Gini------Thiago-----Ketia---
      --Salah--------Firmino------Mane

      Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Tsimikas, Jones, Shaqiri, Jota, Minamino

      Yeah Iā€™d go with that line up, the tough thing now is I want to see at least four of those subs play too, weā€™re spoilt for choice 😂

      I think itā€™ll be Shaqiri misses out on a sub appearance but hopefully heā€™s involved during the week in the cup, loved what I saw the other day.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #5: Sep 26, 2020 09:44:42 am
      Yeah Iā€™d go with that line up, the tough thing now is I want to see at least four of those subs play too, weā€™re spoilt for choice 😂

      I think itā€™ll be Shaqiri misses out on a sub appearance but hopefully heā€™s involved during the week in the cup, loved what I saw the other day.

      To me, Shaq faded pretty quickly after his excellent goal. He's not really that effective in the press and was less of an impact than Curtis, Taki and even Marko Grujic  I think he gets an extra long leash from supporters due to occasionally doing spectacular things (especially Ć gainst United).

      But I can see him as one of 7 subs on the bench, to be inserted w 10 minutes tremaining.if we need a late goal.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #6: Sep 26, 2020 09:47:40 am
      If Gomez was at his best, Iā€™d put him with VVD and Firmino instead of Gini.
      Not really sure how Joe is gonna perform from one day to the next at the moment though 🤷ā€ā™‚ļø.
      Similar with Gini.
      Think if heā€™s not on it, he will need to be subbed before any damage is done.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #7: Sep 26, 2020 10:14:45 am
      Also.....
      I F***ing hate it when we donā€™t play on a Saturday !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #8: Sep 26, 2020 10:32:12 am
      Also.....
      I f**king hate it when we donā€™t play on a Saturday !
      Its not that bad as long as its a Sunday but Monday just feels odd
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #9: Sep 26, 2020 10:50:44 am
      NB: Team no longer available

      With Milner, Henderson out injured and Gomez just coming back, I would play like this.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #10: Sep 26, 2020 10:52:09 am
      NB: Team no longer available

      With Milner, Henderson out injured and Gomez just coming back, I would play like this.

      Canā€™t argue with that
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #11: Sep 26, 2020 07:43:20 pm
      With Henderson out for this match I would expect Thaigo to slot in. I expect to see what we saw a couple moths ago with Arsenal defend deep and hope one of their strikers can drum up piece of magic.

      -----------------Alisson----------------
      TAA----Fabinho---VdD----Robbo
      ------Gini------Thiago-----Ketia---
      --Salah--------Firmino------Mane

      Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Tsimikas, Jones, Shaqiri, Jota, Minamino

      Liked this one. But I'd like to have Grujic as a sub instead of Shaqiri.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #12: Sep 26, 2020 08:13:01 pm
      Fabinho has been great at CB, but it means loosing him from the middle.
      Would prefer to have Fab there, then Gomez at the back, assuming he's fit to play.
      Thiago looked good vs Chavs, wanted the ball all the time, but ended up a walk in the park against 10 men. He had tonnes of passes, but he also lost the ball a couple of times and gave away a peno. He's a heck of a player, only question is it too early for him to start in this one. Maybe not though, has massive experience, and has had time this week with JĆ¼rgen/the lads, and would say he'd like to get stuck in. Will see what JĆ¼rgen does. Would probably have him in ahead of Keita.
      Will miss Hendo, hopefully he gets back soon.

               Alisson
      TAA Gomez VVD Robbo
          Gini Fab Thiago
         Salah Bob Mane

      Subs: Adrian, Tsimikas, Grujic, Keita, Jones, Minamino, Jota
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #13: Sep 26, 2020 08:35:35 pm
      Milner pictured back in training today, so he might be on the bench Monday.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #14: Sep 26, 2020 09:57:42 pm
      arsenal have looked  decent and improved from last year for sure but the media hype/ass kissing arteta   is getting from the media is amazing ;D there new flavor of the month i guess... i mean he won a fa cup yea but still finished 8th ;D.  3-1 Liverpool win.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #15: Sep 26, 2020 10:34:59 pm
      First of two matches on four days vs. the Gunners. dropped the Community Shield on penalties to Mikel Arteta's team a few weeks ago, and lost in Premier League play in after clinching the title with seven matches to spare.

      I guess my main lineup question is whether Fabinho remains at center back for this one. Joe Gomez was pictured in training today, but the back looked tight as can be with Virgil and Fab paired together.

      I expect Thiago to be on from the start in midfield, and then you have competition for the other places between Henderson, Fabinho, Gini, Naby and Curtis Jones (Milner not in training today, has a calf injury). Arsenal can be expected to defend fairly deep the way they did in their previous matches for us, so that might signal a start for Naby Keita. I think you maybe right, as they wont put just one player to cover Thiago, which leaves Naby to open to exploit. Lets see

      What say ye?



      First of two matches on four days vs. the Gunners. dropped the Community Shield on penalties to Mikel Arteta's team a few weeks ago, and lost in Premier League play in after clinching the title with seven matches to spare.

      I guess my main lineup question is whether Fabinho remains at center back for this one. Joe Gomez was pictured in training today, but the back looked tight as can be with Virgil and Fab paired together.

      I expect Thiago to be on from the start in midfield, and then you have competition for the other places between Henderson, Fabinho, Gini, Naby and Curtis Jones (Milner not in training today, has a calf injury). Arsenal can be expected to defend fairly deep the way they did in their previous matches for us, so that might signal a start for Naby Keita.

      What say ye?



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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #16: Sep 27, 2020 10:58:27 am
      Liked this one. But I'd like to have Grujic as a sub instead of Shaqiri.

      I disagree, Jones can cover the midfield but Shaqiri offers something different.S
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #17: Sep 27, 2020 12:02:48 pm
      Started to hate Arsenal in recent seasons so I hope we smash these tomorrow. Theyā€™ve gotten a few decent results under Arteta but their style of play is muck. It wasnā€™t that long ago they were playing the best football in the country and now they set up like Burnley. Iā€™d argue Burnley show more attacking intent actually.

      Tomorrow is going to be a case of them playing 3 centre halves and tucking both the wing backs in. Theyā€™ll play both xhaka and elneny as holding midfielders and theyā€™re going to make it tough for us. Theyā€™ve always got a chance of nicking games because of Auba too. An early goal could be vital here because if we go into the second half level then I can see us getting a bit frustrated.

      The good thing is we have Thiago now who is suited perfectly for this type of fixture. He will see plenty of the ball and Iā€™m expecting him to unlock their crab defence.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #18: Sep 27, 2020 12:07:59 pm
      Started to hate Arsenal in recent seasons so I hope we smash these tomorrow.



      I've got to be honest I know it was the in thing to sort of like them during Wenger's invincible times, Henry Vieira etc, but I 've always hated Arsenal going back to that last game of 89.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #19: Sep 27, 2020 12:09:24 pm
      Alisson and Thiago both doubtful for tomorrow.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #20: Sep 27, 2020 12:16:12 pm
      I've got to be honest I know it was the in thing to sort of like them during Wenger's invincible times, Henry Vieira etc, but I 've always hated Arsenal going back to that last game of 89.

      Slightly before my time that, I was born in 87 so earliest memories are around 92-93.

      I did always like Arsenal though. As you say, the Wenger era, the players they had and the style of football. But Iā€™ve always liked them as a club not sure why. Highbury was a boss little ground and Iā€˜ve always liked their kits. I remember me and my dad having a bev with some of them in Cardiff 01 too and just thinking their fans were sound. Just one of those clubs Iā€™ve always had a soft spot for.

      In recent years with all the arsenal fan tv sh*te and the way they play football now I canā€™t stand them.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #21: Sep 27, 2020 12:30:44 pm
      This team for this game picks itself, assuming neither Joe or Joel will be fit Fabinho sits in next to Virgil, Trent & Robbo will occupy the flanks and it would be foolhardy leaving Thiago out after just 45 minutes of his magistry V Chavs, the real dilemma is who plays with him ?

      Most of us would probably say Gini & Keita that would be favourable of course, but what none of us have seen is what happens at Melwood, is it possible that Jota could slot in left side or Jones for that matter, and keep Gini right side, or Jota right side & Keita left, itā€™s maybe too early to try and needs more time at Melwood for fine tuning but itā€™s a possibility, one thing for certain are the three amigos up front,

      Arse have a major worry over them but have coped admirably last two outings, but were they a true measure of our capabilities, I donā€™t think they were, we weā€™re definitely under cooked in the dying embers of last season and the charity shield was no more than a exhibition shake the rust off friendly,

      Monday night will see us back to our best, but we still have to account for Auba, Lacazette et al, not easy by any stretch, I think weā€™ll see the side Amammac posted, and let them worry about us rather us be pondering over what they bring to the table,

      They are much improved side since Arteta went there, but we will prove too strong for them , they played us when not at our best recently but they will see a different animal tomorrow night.


                                                  Alisson

                                  Trent   Fabinho   Virgil   Robbo

                                      Gini      Thiago    Keita   

                                       Salah   Firmino   Mane



      3-1 Champions 



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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #22: Sep 27, 2020 12:33:14 pm
      Slightly before my time that, I was born in 87 so earliest memories are around 92-93.

      I did always like Arsenal though. As you say, the Wenger era, the players they had and the style of football. But Iā€™ve always liked them as a club not sure why. Highbury was a boss little ground and Iā€˜ve always liked their kits. I remember me and my dad having a bev with some of them in Cardiff 01 too and just thinking their fans were sound. Just one of those clubs Iā€™ve always had a soft spot for.

      In recent years with all the arsenal fan tv sh*te and the way they play football now I canā€™t stand them.

      That team with Viera, Bergkamp, Pires and Henry was a top footballing side, and they had knocked off United so that was good as well. But now they are just another group trying to take what is ours, so I hope we thrash them.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #23: Sep 27, 2020 12:33:51 pm
      Alisson and Thiago both doubtful for tomorrow.

      What???????
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      Reply #24: Sep 27, 2020 12:37:21 pm
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #25: Sep 27, 2020 12:44:12 pm
      Alisson and Thiago both doubtful for tomorrow.

      F**k.

      I hope my fears about Adrian don't come to fruition.

      Hopefully they're fit.
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      Reply #26: Sep 27, 2020 12:44:39 pm
      Alisson and Thiago both doubtful for tomorrow.



      How ? More info please!
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      Reply #27: Sep 27, 2020 12:48:59 pm

      Thing is, if not ruled out at this point, and we're leaving it late, there's a pretty high chance of at least Alisson playing, if you ask me.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #28: Sep 27, 2020 12:51:19 pm
      Just reading it now, says nature of injury unknown. All the beat writers posted at the same time. Thiago trained Friday I thought. Makes me wonder if it isn't an injury per se.

      Can we agree to stay positive about Adrian on here. He has done good things fkr us along with making some mistakes, but let's back him.

      If Thiago is out I guess we see Fab, Gini and Keita as the midfield three, or Minamino with two of those and Gomez back at center back.

      Hopefully they can play

      EDIT: In that Friday training video, the short-sided game had Kelleher and Karius as the two goalkeepers (Adrian was with the other starters from the League Cup game, doing recovery).

      EDIT 2: I can't type.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #29: Sep 27, 2020 01:38:38 pm
      Bullshit. Allison will play and Iā€™d bet Thiago will too.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #30: Sep 27, 2020 01:45:21 pm
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #31: Sep 27, 2020 01:46:29 pm
      Covid?
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      Reply #32: Sep 27, 2020 01:52:15 pm

      No, think they both missed Friday's training but both done interviews on the same day.
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      Reply #33: Sep 27, 2020 02:52:51 pm
      Maybe mind games to make Arsenal a bit over confident before the game, itā€™s happened a few times no? We have doubts then they are in the starting line up...
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      Reply #34: Sep 27, 2020 03:15:15 pm
      Thought Adrian made some good saves vs Lincoln.
      I'd be shitting my pants if heard Karius was playing.
      Hopefully Ally lines out come game night.
      Pain in the tits having to wait till Monday.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #35: Sep 27, 2020 03:34:57 pm
      Adrian playing is a bit of an issue to be honest. Arsenal will be playing for the smash and grab as ever under Arteta and their chances just went up of catching our keeper out.

      Dont want to see Karius named in the squad either!

      Either way we have to start getting the first goal against these then their sh*t house plan of sitting on their box and counter attacking once a half goes out the window.
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      Reply #36: Sep 27, 2020 03:38:51 pm
      Dont want to see Karius named in the squad either!

      Doubt it as he's off on a season loan
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      Reply #37: Sep 27, 2020 03:49:12 pm
      Doubt it as he's off on a season loan

      Just reading that alright, Union Berlin on loan. No buyers so  :-\
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #38: Sep 27, 2020 06:22:12 pm
      Not that we need it but theres a big reason for us to go out all guns blazing tomorrow, open a 6 point gap on city
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #39: Sep 27, 2020 06:23:14 pm
      Adrian in 17 starts for the clubā€”-2 clean sheetsā€” 8 times givin two or more goals

      Karius in 17/18 33 startsā€”-16 clean sheetsā€”9 times given two or more goals

      Both had mares against a Madrid. I dare say AdrƭƔn has had the better team in front of him.

      This isnā€™t to promote one over the other but more to the fact that we may want to consider looking into a proper back up before the window closes.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #40: Sep 27, 2020 06:37:29 pm
      Not that we need it but theres a big reason for us to go out all guns blazing tomorrow, open a 6 point gap on city

      Yes we do. We need it - Those blue noses across Stanley Park. This is very important.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #41: Sep 27, 2020 07:24:23 pm
      We win this and weā€™ve already sent a serious message that we are here to retain it now that City have slipped... 6 point gap with this team and engine is HUGE! And they play Leeds next who will go at them just as hard as Leicester...

      Must win tomorrow for me, beat the pretty boys tomorrow and bring them back down to earth and distance ourselves from the rich boys, would be a perfect Monday, and Iā€™d go into Thursday relaxed, if weā€™re gonna win one make it tomorrowā€™s.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #42: Sep 27, 2020 07:39:48 pm
      Would expect the same again, Bummeryang to veer off on the FB, hit him down the channels/long balls. And park the bus inbetweentimes.
      Just need to be patient. We owe these after a few losses.

      Nice to see Citeh balls things up at home. Apparently Mendy and Garcia were sh*te at the back. Hilarious $$$$$$ :)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #43: Sep 27, 2020 08:29:24 pm
      The penalties given so far this season are putting defenders in a very unfair situation. The ball hits the hand/arm when almost in a challenge with lierally no time to react and VAR comes back with a penalty.

      Its a difficult one to get consistent decisions as is often the case in football. Lets hope we don't get on the wrong end of a contentious hand ball decision.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #44: Sep 27, 2020 08:31:04 pm
      The penalties given so far this season are putting defenders in a very unfair situation. The ball hits the hand/arm when almost in a challenge with lierally no time to react and VAR comes back with a penalty.

      Its a difficult one to get a consistent decisions as is often the case in football. Lets hope we don't get on the wrong end of a contentious hand ball decision.

      Would think possibly every club could be on the wrong end of one of these before season  out
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #45: Sep 27, 2020 09:02:45 pm
      All referees should show a bit more common sense, than giving a penalty every time the ball hits someone on the arm. There is an obvious difference between ball to hands & blatant hand ball. Anyhow a win against Arsenal tomorrow night well and truly on the cards.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #46: Sep 27, 2020 09:19:53 pm
      beat em 4-1   watch aftv  melt down and the media finally jump off artertas  backside. ;)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #47: Sep 27, 2020 09:31:29 pm
      All referees should show a bit more common sense, than giving a penalty every time the ball hits someone on the arm. There is an obvious difference between ball to hands & blatant hand ball. Anyhow a win against Arsenal tomorrow night well and truly on the cards.

      Itā€™s annoying me when it happens to other teams so canā€™t imagine what Iā€™m gonna be like when it happens to us...
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #48: Sep 27, 2020 09:37:22 pm
      All referees should show a bit more common sense, than giving a penalty every time the ball hits someone on the arm. There is an obvious difference between ball to hands & blatant hand ball. Anyhow a win against Arsenal tomorrow night well and truly on the cards.

      Accidental hand ball is now given as a penalty. If the ref or VAR judge that a player is using his arms to make himself bigger in the area then a penalty is given. It is when a player simply can't react because he's in close proximity and a penalty is given is causing a level of unfairness.

      Could even see players flick the ball up against players arms in the box. Whole thing needs reassessed.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #49: Sep 27, 2020 09:38:35 pm
      All referees should show a bit more common sense, than giving a penalty every time the ball hits someone on the arm. There is an obvious difference between ball to hands & blatant hand ball. Anyhow a win against Arsenal tomorrow night well and truly on the cards.

      They don't have any choice with this league directive.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #50: Sep 27, 2020 09:39:46 pm
      No, think they both missed Friday's training but both done interviews on the same day.

      https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/410085-inside-training-goals-drills-and-more-as-thiago-and-jota-settle-in

      Thiago trained Friday.

      When I mentioned Karius in training I didn't mean to suggest he would be in our squad. As mentioned by me and others, he is leaving on loan.

      Hopefully Ali is fit to start, but I trust Adrian if not, made some cracking saves on Thurssday.



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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #51: Sep 27, 2020 09:45:06 pm
      This game is getting bigger by the hour.It was a big game now given more importance due to City's result. There's no doubt Arsenal are a serious threat this season and we will have to be on blob to get the result.

      Leeds gave us a great start in terms of pushing us hard, just what we needed to get fully focused.Tough game expected.

      2-1
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #52: Sep 27, 2020 09:56:59 pm
      Just when I thought we were gonna lay our ā€˜new dimensionā€™ on them, he becomes doubtful. And to add to that, Ali out as well.
      Iā€™m hoping Adrian has one of his better performances for us, and weā€™ll just have to batter them with our champions side. 3:1 to the mighty reds 😊
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #53: Sep 27, 2020 10:31:30 pm
      Obviously I am going to support Adrien between the sticks if Ali is injured but I am interested as to what my fellow supporters think of Kelleher?  I just haven't really seen him play yet so am wondering how far a drop off he is from Adrien?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #54: Sep 27, 2020 10:52:09 pm
      We won a lot of games without Thiago last season, they will hardly be able to cope with our midfield whoever we play there. Allison will be missed, sure. I think boys will be motivated enough to prevent them go away with 3 wins in a row.
      « Last Edit: Sep 27, 2020 11:14:52 pm by Red John »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #55: Sep 27, 2020 11:44:19 pm
      With Henderson out for this match I would expect Thaigo to slot in. I expect to see what we saw a couple moths ago with Arsenal defend deep and hope one of their strikers can drum up piece of magic.

      -----------------Alisson----------------
      TAA----Fabinho---VdD----Robbo
      ------Gini------Thiago-----Ketia---
      --Salah--------Firmino------Mane

      Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Tsimikas, Jones, Shaqiri, Jota, Minamino



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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #56: Sep 28, 2020 12:02:34 am
      Obviously I am going to support Adrien between the sticks if Ali is injured but I am interested as to what my fellow supporters think of Kelleher?  I just haven't really seen him play yet so am wondering how far a drop off he is from Adrien?

      Saw him for the U23s a couple of weeks ago and he looked quite good. He has grown into his body and commands his area well. Obviously a big difference from doing it with the first team, but you can see why the club like him.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #57: Sep 28, 2020 01:23:49 am
      Saw him for the U23s a couple of weeks ago and he looked quite good. He has grown into his body and commands his area well. Obviously a big difference from doing it with the first team, but you can see why the club like him.

      Cheers.  I was also wondering because we invested in that young Brazilian goalkeeper.  The future looks bright.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #58: Sep 28, 2020 06:16:01 am
      https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/410085-inside-training-goals-drills-and-more-as-thiago-and-jota-settle-in

      Thiago trained Friday.

      When I mentioned Karius in training I didn't mean to suggest he would be in our squad. As mentioned by me and others, he is leaving on loan.

      Hopefully Ali is fit to start, but I trust Adrian if not, made some cracking saves on Thurssday.






      Some good saves and two big mistakes. I don't mind not having Thiago in this game, Fabinho was awful against them the first time. Thiago is world class but it still is the PL and Arsenal. As for Adrian, I simply don't trust him. He does some good saves but he always does a silly mistake or two and we cannot afford that against Arsenal.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #59: Sep 28, 2020 10:08:03 am
      Bobby masterclass.........inco ming........
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #60: Sep 28, 2020 10:13:18 am
      Obviously I am going to support Adrien between the sticks if Ali is injured but I am interested as to what my fellow supporters think of Kelleher?  I just haven't really seen him play yet so am wondering how far a drop off he is from Adrien?

      He played in the 5-5 against Arsenal and the 5-0 defeat against Villa I think, not to slag him off because he's only young, but he did seem to struggle in both. Think he's still a level below Adrian at the minute, certainly wouldn't consider him for tonight
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #61: Sep 28, 2020 10:41:57 am
      I would like to see a midfield of Gini, Keita and Jones, with Fab next to Virgil.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #62: Sep 28, 2020 11:21:26 am
      Henderson and Gomez available?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #63: Sep 28, 2020 11:25:32 am

      Hendo no but Gomez should be
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #64: Sep 28, 2020 11:50:55 am
      Arsenal will defend deep and rely counter attacking sorties. Arteta has more or less said that.No surprise anyway. They will give us plenty of possession but they will press and press trying to sniff out a mistake, a misplaced pass, get it and go.That will be how they play.

      So we have to not get too high.VVD has to set the back 4 and not stray to high. Control in the midfield will be crucial. So I don't think Jones will start. If Joe is fit Fab should start. Pity Thiago isn't fit. We'll need to be patient and both Robbo and Trent will have to guard against getting to high. I would give Robbo a bit more freedom but Trent has to get tight to Aubemayang. Arteta is doing well - so far but maybe we can put the skids under him.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #65: Sep 28, 2020 12:11:54 pm
      They will play the same as the last two games - sit back and hope Aubameyang/Lacazette nick a goal on the break. We just can't afford to give them two goals like we did in the league meeting at the Emirates last season.

      No Alisson and Thiago would make this a mighty tough one (the latter I think we could have dealt with if Hendo was fit) and if they both end up missing out I don't think a point would be a disaster if I'm honest.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #66: Sep 28, 2020 12:28:18 pm
      Ok so potentially no Alisson or Thiago, already no Hendo Matip and Ox.....

                                  Adrian

      Trent       Joe                  VVD   Robbo

                     Naby     Fab  Jones

               Mo             Bobby            Mane

      Subs: Karius, Tsmiskas, Milner, Gini, Shaq, Minamino, Jota
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #67: Sep 28, 2020 01:11:46 pm
      Is Thiago definitely injured or just not fully match fit yet?
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      Reply #68: Sep 28, 2020 01:19:21 pm
      Is Thiago definitely injured or just not fully match fit yet?

      The beat writers all tweeted at the same time yesterday that Ali and Thiago had missed training with no explanation of what "the injury" was. Neither was definitely ruled out, which makes me wonder if it is very minor or if, rather than a fitness test, there is a ......... test test the club will be conducting.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #69: Sep 28, 2020 01:20:45 pm
      Get Jones in the 1st 11 and let the kid have his chance.

      They will play like a League 1 side coming for a point, and then we can all hail Arteta as the new Moses. Seriously what the f**k is all the fuss about, we play anywhere near our level and we win this.

      It may well be tight as they are going to have 11 men behind the ball.

               Ally
      TTA  Fab VVD Robbo
      Gini Nabby Jones
      Mane Bobby Mo

      Writing them names alone give me hairs on the back of me neck.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #70: Sep 28, 2020 01:28:59 pm
      If Joe is fit I'd go with a midfield of Gini - Fabinho - Jones
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #71: Sep 28, 2020 01:31:55 pm
      Game day is here :D lets go REDS  ;D :) ;)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #72: Sep 28, 2020 01:36:29 pm
      Praying and hoping that Alisson is between the sticks tonight and he recovers in time, would love to see Thiago take these apart as well, but as we have plenty of midfielders available I'm not too worried if he doesn't start.
      It'll be a difficult game though tonight and I'm looking forward to a great battle between these two sides.
      Bring it on, come on you mighty reds !!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #73: Sep 28, 2020 01:36:32 pm
      Hope to see Kelleher get some game time with the first team this year and be given the opportunity to take over as backup for Alisson next year. Adrian is a live body in the net but not a whole lot more with too many mistakes in him.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #74: Sep 28, 2020 01:38:50 pm
      Alisson Instagram post in the last hour gives some hope that he will be playing to night.

      The CoVid rumor is hot as well, but any actual test results would of course be pure speculation.

      Hoping for the best (and I reiterate this team can beat Arsenal with both players missing out).
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #75: Sep 28, 2020 01:40:30 pm
      and how is Alisson not fit? Did he develop Lallana-itis starting last season?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #76: Sep 28, 2020 01:55:16 pm
      Hopefully we can go with;
      Alisson
      TAA
      Gomez
      VVD
      Robertson
      Fabinho
      Thiago
      Gini
      Salah
      Firmino
      Mane

      Bench: Adrian, Tsimikas, Jones, Milner, Shaqiri, Minamino, Jota
      Prediction: 2-1
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #77: Sep 28, 2020 02:36:39 pm
      Having lost to these the last twice (I know the CS was a draw!), keen to stuff if up them and think we will if we eliminate silly defensive errors and take some of our chances.

      In those 2 defeats some of the key stats combined are: -

      We've had an average of 65% possession

      We've had a total of 39 shots to their 11

      We've had 12 shots on target to their 4

      And 18 corners to their 5

      How have we lost both those games??!!  Oh yeah, we need to eliminate the silly defensive mistakes and take some of our chances, being more clinical, up front.

      The more I think about this game, the more confident I become.

      COYR - Win by a 2 goal margin to leapfrog that lot across the park!!

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #78: Sep 28, 2020 02:47:17 pm
      Arsenal fans confident on twitter, feels different to the usual arsenal meltdown at Anfield, need to be on our toes tonight
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #79: Sep 28, 2020 02:51:39 pm
      If Gomez is indeed fit I still wouldnā€™t play him, Iā€™d ease him in gentler on Thursday rather than the more important of the two games tonight, this allows him a couple extra days to build his strength both mentally & physically, good news that Ali will play and no mention of Thiago missing the game either,

      Thinking about who to play alongside Thiago I think weā€™ll see Gini & Naby, Hendo & Milner are both non- starters, so our next best experienced two are Gini & Naby, with excellent back up from Jota, Jones, Shaq, or even Minamino, the only other concern/ dilemma is what system we use, will it be JĆ¼rgenā€™s tried & trusted 4-3-3, or the suck it N see 4-2-3-1, I think the latter with Thiago marauding forward probing/ creating for openings in Artetaā€™s bus parking antics,


      Absolutely pivotal we get the win tonight (we will) after Citehā€™s debacle V Foxes, we would have a Six point gap (already) over them, last season after 10, we had a 8 point gap which they never recovered , long long way to go of course but no scientists are required to work out the likely parameters if the current trend continues,


      Iā€™d love us to absolutely batter Arse, they will see a completely different animal tonight, a hungrier, fitter, more determined than ever animal with added teeth in Thiago, Salah looks as sharp as ever, likewise Mane, I have a slight worry about Bobby but confidence is massive and I hope thatā€™s all heā€™s short of,



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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #80: Sep 28, 2020 02:53:01 pm
      Nervous about this one, Arsenal are just one of those teams I hate losing too more than others, feels like youā€™re getting nutmegged by a 5 year old when these get one over on you.
      « Last Edit: Sep 28, 2020 04:27:44 pm by AlwaysTheKop »
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      Reply #81: Sep 28, 2020 03:05:51 pm
      Tactical Brilliance.

      Put them in the lift on the ground floor.
      We take the stairs.

      When the lift doors open on the Mezzanine we beat the sh*t out of 'em.

      Simples.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #82: Sep 28, 2020 03:58:54 pm
      Arsenal fans confident on twitter, feels different to the usual arsenal meltdown at Anfield, need to be on our toes tonight

      No game ever played on twitter
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #83: Sep 28, 2020 04:01:32 pm
      Is anyone aware of the Alisson and Thiago latest, both are doubts for tonight i understand?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #84: Sep 28, 2020 04:13:10 pm
      Is anyone aware of the Alisson and Thiago latest, both are doubts for tonight i understand?

      Both are injured,  or have covid, or have the clap or they are both fit .
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #85: Sep 28, 2020 04:19:45 pm
      Nervous about this one, Arsenal are just one of those teams I hate losing too more than others, feels like youā€™re getting nutmegged but a 5 year old when these get one over on you.

      :D

      Love it!

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #86: Sep 28, 2020 04:22:58 pm
      Both are injured,  or have covid, or have the clap or they are both fit .

      So, no idea effectively..
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #87: Sep 28, 2020 04:31:36 pm
      A much different arsenal than the one that came to anfield last year, the year before and the year before that. Need to be on our toes! I can see them target Trent with Aubameyang down that side so the midfielders need to be wary of it. That said if we play our game everything should fall into place!
       3-1 Liverpool Salah hattrick is my guess
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      Reply #88: Sep 28, 2020 04:52:23 pm
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #89: Sep 28, 2020 05:16:08 pm
      I've been really impressed with the improvements Arteta has made at Arsenal in such a short period of time, particularly given their squad/team is lacking in quality in some areas (particularly the back 4). He has got them very compact defensively and they are organised and know their jobs, if you've got that and then you have players like Aubameyang and Lacazette you will be dangerous. They remind me of LFC when Houllier was just starting to get to grips with things in his first full season or two in sole charge.

      Clearly we have been dominant in terms of possession in the last couple of games with them but they are very comfortable without the ball and dangerous when they win it back and break quickly. We need to be really careful in transition, look after the ball and perhaps not overcommit.

      I'd be inclined to play Gomez if he is fit and then play Fabinho and Thiago in midfield with Gini. We look vulnerable defensively with Keita in the side and Thiago is used to playing in a 2 from his time at Bayern so it would also influence it for me.

      I fancy us to win but it will be a tough game, i'm going for 2-1 Reds. important we don't go behind.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #90: Sep 28, 2020 05:31:55 pm
      Big game already to hold serve and take the first lead on City. don't like seeing Everton up there either had to turn radio x over before when their silly song came on.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #91: Sep 28, 2020 05:40:42 pm
      Think Alisson will play but not Thiago so Joe at CB and Fab in midfield with Naby and Gini
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #92: Sep 28, 2020 05:48:02 pm
      When Aubamayang breaks, Just keep on his right as his left is just for standing on.
      Donā€™t let him turn inside on to his right !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #93: Sep 28, 2020 06:46:37 pm
      Field strongest team bar injuries tonight. Another 3 points against the Arsenal.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #94: Sep 28, 2020 06:55:25 pm
      Just dont gift the feckers
       any goals this time puhhlease and we'll be ok
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #95: Sep 28, 2020 06:57:36 pm
      Echo saying Alisson starts.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #96: Sep 28, 2020 07:02:40 pm
      #LFC line up v Arsenal tonight: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Keita, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

      Subs: Adrian, Milner, Jones, Minamino, Jota, Origi, Williams.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Arsenal (Mon..28th September 20:00 KO)
      Reply #97: Sep 28, 2020 07:04:12 pm
      Think Alisson will play but not Thiago so Joe at CB and Fab in midfield with Naby and Gini

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