Napoli 4-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

Well Jürgen is still saying he needs time to think about the game. History suggests back in the day we won every game but we didnt and a couple of games a season we were awful and I remember Souness saying after such a game he would tell the lads no training tomorrow we are going to the Horses which was code for the Pub so as men they could sort it out face to face and clear the air I think the lads should go to Costa or Starbucks  and do exactly the same and be honest with each other and it would do them the world of good

Jürgen doesn't need to say that much  to TV...Keep it in the changing room. Being too honest with the press you see where it got Tuchel. I'm not saying he's gonna get the boot....just say it was a bad night and sort it behind closed doors

Well Jürgen is still saying he needs time to think about the game. History suggests back in the day we won every game but we didnt and a couple of games a season we were awful and I remember Souness saying after such a game he would tell the lads no training tomorrow we are going to the Horses which was code for the Pub so as men they could sort it out face to face and clear the air I think the lads should go to Costa or Starbucks  and do exactly the same and be honest with each other and it would do them the world of good

Defo, they also need to be asked (likes of salah, vvd, diaz, alissin) are they actually happy with the squad?

Well Jürgen is still saying he needs time to think about the game. History suggests back in the day we won every game but we didnt and a couple of games a season we were awful and I remember Souness saying after such a game he would tell the lads no training tomorrow we are going to the Horses which was code for the Pub so as men they could sort it out face to face and clear the air I think the lads should go to Costa or Starbucks  and do exactly the same and be honest with each other and it would do them the world of good

Think I’d choose the Horses…! Do a proper job!

Jürgen doesn't need to say that much  to TV...Keep it in the changing room. Being too honest with the press you see where it got Tuchel. I'm not saying he's gonna get the boot....just say it was a bad night and sort it behind closed doors

but saying he doesnt know and we have to start again is worrying

I am off but its interesting that most of us seem resigned to this defeat and performance tonight as if it was expected now that is worrying

Sorry mate my knees are fu**ed

I'd still play you before Trent

Thought I couldn't feel any more depressed but that Jürgen interview did it for me.

Saying we need to reinvent ourselves and find a totally new set up for everything just one month into a season. Can tell he knows we're in a huge amount of bother this season.

I'd be depressed if he hadn't come out and said those exact words.

We did concede 7 nearly 2 years ago..that was the season we needed Alisson to save our bacon. So it's not as if the Boss hasn't had tough times here. But with so many off form or who have lost the plot or whatever, this time it won't be an easy fix or that the team will come good in time.

Nothing has been lost. But we have to show we are up for the fight. Wolves & Ajax at home. Not gunner throw them under the bus just yet.

Clearly some underlying issues. Apart from the execute knee jerkers, I think everyone is thinking snd feeling the same.
It’s evident that we can’t start with that same 11 again, and those who we can’t change need a huge shake up.
Not sure if it’s the tactics, the attitude or the personnel but we’ve gotta stick in there. Keep supporting and hope we can turn it around.
Think it all comes down to what changes Jürgen is prepared to make.
Gonna be worrying times ahead.
Was gonna go with Harvey for motm as he seemed to be giving his all, but went for Diaz as he worked his socks off and scored a stunner

Reminded me of the hammering from Spurs however many years ago. Except instead of Lovren, today was Gomez

I am no expert but successful sides are built on a good defence, we seem to be too slack at the back lately, but need to be back at our best against  Wolves & Ajax in our next two home games.

Jürgen doesn't need to say that much  to TV...Keep it in the changing room. Being too honest with the press you see where it got Tuchel. I'm not saying he's gonna get the boot....just say it was a bad night and sort it behind closed doors

No, tuchel not for the first time in his career fell out with players etc

No, tuchel not for the first time in his career fell out with players etc

Was a bit surprised yer man got the sack...no not Johnson..Tuchel..Chelsea always go with the flavour of the month..hence the Potter approach....bet Parker does feel too bad now...probaly in the Bahamas having a bevvy..

Guys I could easily berate this tonight but I’m not gonna do as I know that we have to take the rough with the smooth.

We all know that first 45 was the most dire in my opinion that I’ve seen so far this season, came out second half with a bit more about them.

I see it as yes, we all knew this game was not gonna be a walk in the park but with  5 more games to go in this group so “we go again”  let’s not get downhearted & get behind this team that recently has given us so many highs

Not surprised at result,this mob took us to the cleaners at Murrayfield a few years back also.

Really that’s poor from him.

Or is it honest?

Other than Bournemouth (does that count?) we’ve led for about 3 seconds this season. Absolutely mental.

We were second or third best in everything.

I really thought that Gomez was playing better of the 2 CBs but tonight he was a disaster.

Klopp needs to think hard because we need to be better in everything department.

Not too bothered to be honest. sh*t happens and sometimes you have a hangover that lasts more than a couple hours. If there's a man in the world capable of getting the ship righted after this it's Jürgen. If he isn't able to get it righted, I fear for what lies ahead after that, so I'm of the optimistic nature right now that he'll get us back on track.

Is the league gone? Not really, is Champion's League gone? Not at all. Are any other trophy's gone? Nope. So for now at least, we can still try to enjoy the football knowing that all isn't lost. Win or lose, I still love watching us play and supporting this club. If we can savor the good results, sure as F**k we can deal with some bad ones?

I'm not as much of an expert in tactics and lineup decisions as others on here.I dont think its down to poor tactics or managerial mistakes. Secondly,  I'm tired of hearing that our issues are down to Mane no longer being on the team. But, its apparent that this squad is missing something. They lack flow, they lack the cohesion. The term "Poetry in Motion" was a perfect description of Liverpool over the past 5 seasons. But, that's not happening now. I think its a mixture of fixture congestion, international duties, Cup matches etc,etc...Success breeds contempt and exhaustion. I think its a matter of just building on some successful games and getting into that flow of winning. Plus losing titles to City by a few points multiple times is painful. They need new blood. The fact Liverpool have been as competitive against City as they've been is amazing. City have spent 5x as much as us and only win titles by 1pt is a testament to Klopp and the players. If FSG want to win. They must spend in the next 2 windows. We don't need a rebuild. We need a reinvestment.

A midfield with Milner-Elliott and Fab with underfiring Salah would only give this kind of performance. Firmino is still Firmino, Klopp has castrated him and made him not only a false No.9 but a false striker. He only scores when it's too easy to miss, it seems. I could not recall something he did in the game. Diaz and Robertson don't work as a unit yet, Salah and TAA have forgotten how to play and definitely cannot combine, and this midfield is non-existent. What infuriates me is that Milner is still starting. Klopp is the only one not seeing that the guy is awful now and should not start?

Terrible performance. Terrible result.

On one hand I’m not too bothered. 5 games left to turn it around. We’ll still qualify.

But you just can’t ignore how bad of a performance that was.

I don’t know what’s happened to the back four but they look like a pub team. I can can only presume both robertson and Trent are burnt out and the pair of them need a good rest. Trent in particular was abysmal once again.

Gomez will take criticism which is fully deserved in truth he was shockingly bad but his CB partner shouldn't get away with it. Virgil has been well below his usual standard for a while now and it should be discussed far more. The form of Matip last season just helped disguise it.

That midfield three was always going to get turned over in a game like this. You’ve got Milner who uses his bus pass to get to and from training and a 12 year old Harvey Elliott playing out of position in a type of game he has little experience in. Then fabinho who is trying to do about 6 jobs at once and running around like a headless chicken. He’s a complexly different player and when he has Thiago alongside him where he can then concentrate on his own game.

The front three were dire again. Bobbys past it, salah is in horrendous form and diaz blows hot and cold in every game he plays. He shows his quality with a goal like that but can disappear for long spells.

The boss’s words were a little worrying after the game. He seemed completely baffled by it and he appeared concerned.

Wolves on Saturday is a massive game.