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      Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      rossyred
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #874: Oct 09, 2022 11:45:17 pm
      Very greedy yes. Some of the angles he shoots from are actually ridiculous.

      Really can't remember many , one today he slapped one from wide when no other option and almost led to a goal . Far to early to be labelling him with that one. Talking about someone shooting from angles Mo doesn't do too bad
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #875: Oct 09, 2022 11:48:23 pm
      Really can't remember many , one today he slapped one from wide when no other option and almost led to a goal . Far to early to be labelling him with that one. Talking about someone shooting from angles Mo doesn't do too bad

      Mos got the records to back his shooting up.

      You’re right though, it’s early. But so far our attack don’t seem to gel at all, do they?

      Mo looked far more comfortable playing with Sadio and Jota/Bobby than he does Nunez and Diaz. 
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #876: Oct 09, 2022 11:48:40 pm

      Keep moaning about folk on social media but scroll through the sewage.

      You'll find for every klopp out post 10 x that wondering where the net F***ing spend investment  is from your boy John W
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #877: Oct 09, 2022 11:50:23 pm
      Last post of a sh*t day......That Curly whirly zigzaggy kit can f**k off too
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #878: Oct 09, 2022 11:51:06 pm
      Keep moaning about folk on social media but scroll through the sewage.

      You'll find for every klopp out post 10 x that wondering where the net f**king spend investment  is from your boy John W


      Both go into the same bracket
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #879: Oct 09, 2022 11:51:46 pm
      Mos got the records to back his shooting up.

      You’re right though, it’s early. But so far our attack don’t seem to gel at all, do they?

      Mo looked far more comfortable playing with Sadio and Jota/Bobby than he does Nunez and Diaz.

      Correct they are at times like strangers.  Stop start season postponements , internationals.and bans . Players running into others spaces looks disjointed at times but goals not the bigger problem I am afraid
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #880: Oct 09, 2022 11:53:06 pm
      Not sure he has any interest in football
      I'm not interested in hoovers, but we'll take his ÂŁ
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #881: Oct 09, 2022 11:54:01 pm
      Last post of a sh*t day......That Curly whirly zigzaggy kit can f**k off too

      Yep. Tacky, Nike sh*t for cu*ts that kit.
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #882: Oct 09, 2022 11:54:41 pm

      Your argument about investment breaks down when net spend rather than spend is mentioned doesn't it?
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #883: Oct 09, 2022 11:55:24 pm
      I'm not interested in hoovers, but we'll take his ÂŁ

      We'd clean up
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #884: Oct 09, 2022 11:56:46 pm
      Mos got the records to back his shooting up.

      You’re right though, it’s early. But so far our attack don’t seem to gel at all, do they?

      Mo looked far more comfortable playing with Sadio and Jota/Bobby than he does Nunez and Diaz.

      There have been occasions but NĂșñez is a different player to the likes of Bobby , he is going to be selfish at times just like Mo has been , and Mo used to take advantage of the space Bobby etc used to create -NĂșñez is not that type of player and is going to be in that space more often - they need yo be playing more often together to get the understanding
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #885: Oct 09, 2022 11:57:22 pm
      I didn't expect us to get a result with our form on the road and Arsenal playing so well but I felt that this game was kinda there for the taking after we score the 2nd after Arsenal outplayed us at the start of the second half but we never hit the next gear and Arsenal took it to us (though they needed a weak penalty to win it).

      Things that notice was

      - Felt the wide players for us Diaz/Salah were ineffective, out game plan once we got the ball was to hit it wide to either them or Nunez depending on the run he made. Just didn't create enough in the final third.

      - Hendo/Thaigo were getting beat to easy out wide. Felt like Arsenal play triangle between our FB and CM and moved it around to easy to release Saka/Marnelli. Just not reading the play and too slow.

      - why did Klopp through Konate into the fire? Hasn't played all season and it showed. Matip wasn't great but again I though strange move.

      - don't know why that hand ball wasn't given to Gabierl. Really don't know what the rule is anymore feel like those are given all the time we didn't get it.
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #886: Oct 09, 2022 11:58:13 pm
      Your argument about investment breaks down when net spend rather than spend is mentioned doesn't it?

      Net spend is used by those that want to ignore the fact the club has spent ÂŁx amount on players (ÂŁ709mil in 7 years )
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #887: Oct 10, 2022 12:01:42 am
      There have been occasions but NĂșñez is a different player to the likes of Bobby , he is going to be selfish at times just like Mo has been , and Mo used to take advantage of the space Bobby etc used to create -NĂșñez is not that type of player and is going to be in that space more often - they need yo be playing more often together to get the understanding

      I just can’t see them having that understanding with one another. I’d have jota down the middle every single time personally.
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #888: Oct 10, 2022 12:02:55 am
      Net spend is used by those that want to ignore the fact the club has spent ÂŁx amount on players (ÂŁ709mil in 7 years )

      And ignored by those who want to avoid the truth.

      In your world the club could sell all the players and buy a freddo and you'd say they've invested 25p

      Took a while but got there in the end :)
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #889: Oct 10, 2022 12:04:29 am
      I just can’t see them having that understanding with one another. I’d have jota down the middle every single time personally.

      It’s going to be an issue if NĂșñez is going to play as the number 9


      For Benfica he seemed to be wider at times , not sure if that needs to happen , obviously Klopp has an idea how he wants them to work but right now I’m not sure what it is
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #890: Oct 10, 2022 12:05:37 am
      And ignored by those who want to avoid the truth.

      In your world the club could sell all the players and buy a freddo and you'd say they've invested 25p

      Took a while but got there in the end :)

      Not ignoring anything 🤷‍♂ Net spend doesn’t change the fact we spent for example ÂŁ55mil on Diaz and ÂŁ68mil on NĂșñez in the past two windows
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #891: Oct 10, 2022 12:15:41 am
      Not ignoring anything 🤷‍♂ Net spend doesn’t change the fact we spent for example ÂŁ55mil on Diaz and ÂŁ68mil on NĂșñez in the past two windows

      If you're not ignoring the net spend then what has our net spend been for the last 5 seasons?
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #892: Oct 10, 2022 12:21:55 am
      If you're not ignoring the net spend then what has our net spend been for the last 5 seasons?

      No idea 🤷‍♂

      I do know what trophies we have won in that period though
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      Reply #893: Oct 10, 2022 12:41:19 am
      No idea 🤷‍♂

      I do know what trophies we have won in that period though

      It's curious you know to the nearest million how much money Fenway have spent on players but not how much has come back in....

      They've racked up in Klopps entirely tenure a net of 145 million.

      You're looking at what? 20 million a season... 10 million per window.

      Peanuts. Lower than the likes of Everton, let alone actual rivals in Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal United and City. I dont think any other manager would pull that off but it's going to catch up with you in the end.

      JĂŒrgen was won the lot on that budget, the majority of the kudos goes to him and not the ones who have imposed that on him.
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #894: Oct 10, 2022 12:59:45 am
      It's curious you know to the nearest million how much money Fenway have spent on players but not how much has come back in....

      They've racked up in Klopps entirely tenure a net of 145 million.

      You're looking at what? 20 million a season... 10 million per window.

      Peanuts. Lower than the likes of Everton, let alone actual rivals in Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal United and City. I dont think any other manager would pull that off but it's going to catch up with you in the end.

      JĂŒrgen was won the lot on that budget, the majority of the kudos goes to him and not the ones who have imposed that on him.


      https://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/ByManager/28/1


      Surely to win that level of trophies means bringing in lots of quality players -


      You can concentrate on “net spend” but it doesn’t change the fact the club spent


      ÂŁ75mil VVD
      ÂŁ63 mil Alisson
      ÂŁ60mil -NĂșñez
      ÂŁ50mil - Fabinho
      ÂŁ50mil Kieta
      ÂŁ45mil Jota
      ÂŁ43 mil - Salah
      ÂŁ30 mil - Mane
      ÂŁ30mil - Thiago

      Players don’t arrive on magic beans - club have spent a fortune building a team up


      We all go on about how rubbish the team was when Klopp arrived - he didn’t turn those players into superstars, he brought them in spending a lot of money in the process


      Yet you are just crying because the likes of Everton , Spurs , Arsenal , United spent more despite winning F**k all
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #895: Oct 10, 2022 07:29:23 am
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      Re: Arsenal 3-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #896: Oct 10, 2022 07:30:10 am

      https://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/ByManager/28/1


      Surely to win that level of trophies means bringing in lots of quality players -


      You can concentrate on “net spend” but it doesn’t change the fact the club spent


      ÂŁ75mil VVD
      ÂŁ63 mil Alisson
      ÂŁ60mil -NĂșñez
      ÂŁ50mil - Fabinho
      ÂŁ50mil Kieta
      ÂŁ45mil Jota
      ÂŁ43 mil - Salah
      ÂŁ30 mil - Mane
      ÂŁ30mil - Thiago

      Players don’t arrive on magic beans - club have spent a fortune building a team up


      We all go on about how rubbish the team was when Klopp arrived - he didn’t turn those players into superstars, he brought them in spending a lot of money in the process


      Yet you are just crying because the likes of Everton , Spurs , Arsenal , United spent more despite winning f**k all

      Not sure anyone is crying over what Everton, spurs, arsenal and united have spent.
      It’s more that to compete with city you either need to spend money or have the ultimate, perfect transfer strategy.
      For years we have signed well and sold well also.
      But it looks like we have not had that perfect transfer strategy now and coupled with certain players getting towards their sell by date it now means we need more than one player in a window.

      Otherwise we will be competing with Everton and spurs while city will be over the hill and far away.

      City wouldn’t wait until the final minutes of a transfer window to fix a problem with a loan player.
      We have and it’s backfired. Our midfield now looks weak and jaded.

      Our grip on city’s coat tails is slipping and the only way to keep hold of it is to fix our issues which sadly cost money.

      Until then we will be back battling  with Everton and spurs in the battle for 4th.

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