Manchester City 4-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

Stopped watching about 15 to go. Can't rem last time did that. But the players weren't arsed, so why should anyone else be.
Anyone who travelled to watch that can be rightfully aggrieved.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, is coming out of that looking good today.

Nobody on the planet thought we would grind out a 1-0 did they?

We pretty much knew we would crumble and we did.

The players are not playing Jürgen and that is as bad as it gets

Klopp only has one idea. We play the same way week in, week out, and it doesn't work anymore. Ive stated it for a while now personally i think his time is up.
We've spent big money on Nunez and Gakpo and they aren't doing what we need them to do. Even though i do like Nunez. Players like Gakpo And Jota aren't what we need to challenge for major honour, and that just looking at the forwards. We all know the  midfield needs a massive overhaul.
Do you trust our recruitment team to get our summer signings right?

Klopp’s time is up? And who do you propose would be better in this exact setup? I won’t hold my breath for your groundbreaking answer.

Klopp only has one idea. We play the same way week in, week out, and it doesn't work anymore. Ive stated it for a while now personally i think his time is up.
We've spent big money on Nunez and Gakpo and they aren't doing what we need them to do. Even though i do like Nunez. Players like Gakpo And Jota aren't what we need to challenge for major honour, and that just looking at the forwards. We all know the  midfield needs a massive overhaul.
Do you trust our recruitment team to get our summer signings right?

I can't disagree with this to be honest.

I've questioned a lot this season as for me it's never been as simple as 'FSG don't spend money'.

Managed the impossible and made jack grealish look decent. Glad there's another game on Tuesday

That 7-0 feels like it was in a different season.

Think the commentator said we have lost 14 times this year,

That’s just can’t happen off the back of last season.

Can’t believe how quickly we have turned to sh*t!

Demoralised, going to F***ing bed.

Managed the impossible and made jack grealish look decent. Glad there's another game on Tuesday

Glad?  I’m F***ing dreading it!

Klopp’s time is up? And who do you propose would be better in this exact setup? I won’t hold my breath for your groundbreaking answer.

To be fair the debate is worth having.

Anyone thinking the manager isn't culpable for this shower of sh*t in some way had their head in the sand.

Stopped watching about 15 to go. Can't rem last time did that. But the players weren't arsed, so why should anyone else be.
Anyone who travelled to watch that can be rightfully aggrieved.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, is coming out of that looking good today.

The owners would say… thank you very much for your tickets. Hope you enjoyed the show today even though… not very much. No refunds but we’d happily pocket your money. Come back next time. I’m sure you’ll be entertained even more! And before you go next time, remember to spend more money at the club shop and at all our F&B outlets. You’re always welcome… we’ll provide you with a great day out at our next home game.

Big clear out of those who've downed tools when going gets tough

I’m always a bit bemused when I see people saying we won’t make top four and worrying about transfers and players leaving . You make top 4 if you’re good enough and if you don’t , you brush yourselves down and try next season . The teams that play in Europe for the first time will soon realise the strain it puts on the club and the players with all the travelling and games which gives the advantage back to the ones that don’t and so it goes on . We need to be good enough to play in the champions league and at the moment we simply are not but we will be back keep the faith .

Big clear out of those who've downed tools when going gets tough

I'd like us to have some players left to start next season

Could have taken a competitive defeat but the way we threw in the towel second half was unacceptable.  Furious about the manner of the defeat.

I think Klopp has turned from a believer into a doubter.

Honestly, part of me is kind of happy we didn't lose a closely contested match.  The truth is, we are miles off the top and in need of massive changes.  The more results we get like this will put more pressure on Jürgen and the owners to swing the axe and make major changes in the summer....

That's the silver lining I'm putting on this performance / result....

I love klopp but what he is doing is the definition of insanity.

Playing the same tactics eveygame and hoping for a different result.

I'm not saying he should.move away from the 433 permanently but surely when things are this bad a change of system can't do any harm. At least use this season to experiment now we have nothing to play for.

If he can get the personnel in the summer to get back to the high pressure football we have been used to the great.

If he's not capable of fixing this then maybe he needs to be honest with himself and hand the reigns over to someone with fresh ideas. Everything comes to and end and the man is a legend I would hate to see him on a slippery slope and be forced out. If he is to go he should do so with dignity and his head held high.

If we don't get something from the next 2 then Jürgen has to take some of the blame, as he is not effecting anything at the moment except press conferences updating us on our injured players.

Klopp’s time is up? And who do you propose would be better in this exact setup? I won’t hold my breath for your groundbreaking answer.

Nagelssmen (or however it's spelt)

No effort

No desire

No heart

No drive

No passion

No energy



After half time the minute the second goal went in they just crumbled

Poor mentality


Huge game of two halves


Prob should have been two up and Rodri sent off and then just fell apart when KDB scored

Always going to be difficult when your playing the best passing side in the league by a mile..

If we don't get something from the next 2 then Jürgen has to take some of the blame, as he is not effecting anything at the moment except press conferences updating us on our injured players.

Save a handful of games he hadn't affected anything for most of the season.

Same tactics that don't work, crazy subs that haven't really changed games, formation that doesn't seem to fit the squad.

Always going to be difficult when your playing the best passing side in the league by a mile..

But it wasn't previously so someone needs to answer for this decline

The team needs a season out of Europe to recoup, rebuild and regather itself. I would fancy that rather than having to go in the Europa League...or worse the conference league which is horrifyingly possible. Jürgen is by far the best man to take us and rebuild. But does he have the energy to reacquaint himself with a 2016 perspective though?

Klopp has to take some of the blame. Has to be more flexible. Really looking at how we have played this season and he basically put out Hendo & Fabinho against them in midfield. Really should've been a 4-4-2 at the very least.

He has to put a team out to fight for a result not just a go out and get in there mentality. Just seems as if we have no tactics other than what we can do on the front foot. Just one dimensional team & tactics.

Nagelssmen (or however it's spelt)

Seriously F**k off - embarrassing to even suggest it’s time for Klopp to go just as any talk of him walking.


We aren’t Chelsea - we don’t get rid of the best manager out there based on a poor season.

3 midfielders scored for city and their best 2 players were out, they are miles ahead of us