Is English officiating corrupt?

No it's not ok, it's a wrong decision. Wrong decisions by those on the pitch, or off it, hurt the same. The ref on the pitch gave Jota a first yellow card. Was it accepted? No it wasn't. The linesman flagged Luis offside on the pitch. Was it accepted? No it wasn't. Nobody accepts wrong decisions, and anyone who says otherwise, is lieing.

There is no corruption. Who cares whether they went to the desert or not? Referees travel across Europe on a regular basis in midweek to referee games. Nobody objects to that, so why now?

The club are wrong to issue statements on the matter, until the review is comducted, and due process has been completed. As would be the case during any other live review. "Exploring all avenues" What avenues? There aren't any.

We won the league, after a VAR call went against our rivals on the night it was decided. We've reaped the benefits of the system on many occasions, and occasionally we have to accept the negatives.

This refereeing aid gets 99% of decisions right. It's the remaining 1% that grab the headlines. VAR technology worked on Saturday. It showed the impact of Curtis challenge, and it showed that Luis was onside. That's what VAR does. You might con a ref, you might even con a linesman, but you can't con a camera. The technology told the VAR what to do, it even put a graphic up during the review "Checking Disallowed Goal". It couldn't be clearer. You don't bin the system because the official responsible for advising the ref what to do, was caught asleep at the wheel.

Dude , youre a clown.  We won the league with 8 games to play.  And they dont get 99% of the calls correct. Especially handballs and red cards, which are objective.  Nowhere near.  Ask Wolves after Onana wiped out  their player and no penalty was given. Remember the obvious handball City commited vs the Blueshit that cost us a F***ing league.  Do you??

They get it it wrong just as much now as the old referees did without it.  Iv'e seen offsides lines drawn in the wrong places on multiple occasions.  get rid of this VAR  bullshit .  What about the handball vs Chelsea in the 1st game of the year??? Got that one wrong too.  And i cant even remember who it was vs Spurs that got basically smashed in the face (Endo?) . No review on that either.  Its a failed system. the only thing that should be reviewed is Goal line

You’ll never know if there is any if you don’t go searching for it though. Needs to be an investigation into why these refs were reffing in Dubai, who paid them, how much they got paid, etc…..

Could all be coincidence but there could also be something nefarious going on. It’s not like we haven’t seen high level refereeing corruption in “soccer” (and other professional sports) in the past. No reason to just assume it couldn’t happen in the PL in 2023.

Referees fly all over Europe and Middle East to referee games - it’s their job , if they have got a midweek match in the league or cup they go to Middle East for a game

People need to stop saying they couldn't do anything.

I have quoted from the Laws of the Game. There is provision for the referee to take action to ensure the right decision is upheld for the sake of Football. The spirit of the game.

There is no excuse. I expect Liverpool to focus on this and hold them to account.

The ref\var could have easily admitted to the fuk up on field, told the managers, and they would have agreed to walk the ball in the net.

Sportsmanship its called. Its been done before.

The ref\var could have easily admitted to the fuk up on field, told the managers, and they would have agreed to walk the ball in the net.

Sportsmanship its called. Its been done before.

Exactly, and they had ample time to have discussions, even during the half time if not before.

England's actions are highly questionable.
He knew it was given as offside but reportedly claims he thought it was given onside. He ignored the game for 18 seconds after the restart despite others telling him the wrong decision was given. Then he is the one who dismisses all calls to delay the match. A very clear not bothered attitude.

What was he up to?

Exactly, and they had ample time to have discussions, even during the half time if not before.

England's actions are highly questionable.
He knew it was given as offside but reportedly claims he thought it was given onside. He ignored the game for 18 seconds after the restart despite others telling him the wrong decision was given. Then he is the one who dismisses all calls to delay the match. A very clear not bothered attitude.

What was he up to?

Just rubbish all round mate. Fek knows what they were all thinking, at least we could hear the VAR lads saying of fuk. l o l

Heard we’ve been fined for all the yellow cards as well can’t make it up really been as Jota shouldn’t have had the first getting more farcical by the minute

Watching LFC TV last night and Jota’s 2nd yellow was not a foul as he never touched the spurs player, they showed the slow mo the player was going down and Jota pulls his leg back

The ref\var could have easily admitted to the fuk up on field, told the managers, and they would have agreed to walk the ball in the net.

Sportsmanship its called. Its been done before.

The question is when did they tell the on field ref

And how many times when mistakes have been found out has the ref got the players together etc

The main thing is what happens next - there is zero point going over what the ref could have done

It’s now about moving forward and ensuring the mistake won’t happen again

The question is when did they tell the on field ref

And how many times when mistakes have been found out has the ref got the players together etc

The main thing is what happens next - there is zero point going over what the ref could have done

It’s now about moving forward and ensuring the mistake won’t happen again

The rule about not being able to go back and change such an obvious fuk it during a game needs to change.

Daft.

The rule about not being able to go back and change such an obvious fuk it during a game needs to change.

Daft.

To be fair, they didn't think they needed to specifically have a rule for circumstances where the officials ignore the laws of the game.

But, as I keep saying, there is a paragraph which says that the rules can't cover everything, and so in those situations, the ref needs to sort it out and make it right.

The rule about not being able to go back and change such an obvious fuk it during a game needs to change.

Daft.

I guess the question is how far back do you go

Watching LFC TV last night and Jota’s 2nd yellow was not a foul as he never touched the spurs player, they showed the slow mo the player was going down and Jota pulls his leg back

Correct it wasn’t a foul. However, he was lucky not to get booked a moment before that which was a foul but the ref choose to leave it but obviously took note to himself and said that’s your last one lad, next ones a booking. He obviously thought Jota clipped him which we know he didn’t hence the unwanted yellow.

I guess the question is how far back do you go

Well they could have sorted it within 5mins if it wasn't for the stupid rule about game being restarted.

Its not like subjective fouls\cards etc. it was a goal.

Anyway. At least changes will happen now, the only positive that can be taken.

Correct it wasn’t a foul. However, he was lucky not to get booked a moment before that which was a foul but the ref choose to leave it but obviously took note to himself and said that’s your last one lad, next ones a booking. He obviously thought Jota clipped him which we know he didn’t hence the unwanted yellow.

Jota 1st booking was not a booking, it was very very minor accidental collision.

No intent to bring him down, was just running next to him, happens all the time on the pitch.

Sometimes I think these cu*ts forget not everything is a foul and not everything is a booking.

Nobody, apart from England knows the truth. Posters claiming it was clearly just incompetence haven't taken into account the fact the England is vastly experienced ref and VAR ref.

If all VAR decisions are made like that there would be numerous screw ups. Whatever decision is given 'on field' has nothing to do with VAR. Their role is to judge whether it's on or off, then inform the ref. It's that simple. ' Across the water' claiming VAR works fine has missed the point.It's the integrity of the operators that is in question, not the system.

In this case VAR didn't do that. It's not out of the question that it was designed confusion. VAR in this instance can claim they didn't actually give the wrong decision....but they didn't give a correct one either. They fluffed their lines untill it was too late to do anything. So I err on the side of designed confusion.

Exactly, and they had ample time to have discussions, even during the half time if not before.

England's actions are highly questionable.
He knew it was given as offside but reportedly claims he thought it was given onside. He ignored the game for 18 seconds after the restart despite others telling him the wrong decision was given. Then he is the one who dismisses all calls to delay the match. A very clear not bothered attitude.

What was he up to?

Well..."He thought it was given offside"....he knows full well that the 'on field' decision has nothing to do with him or his decision. It's totally irrelevant. His job as he well knows is to give the correct decision using the technology available.

It's inconceivable that he was taking any notice whatsoever of the 'on field' decision. Nothing to do with VAR.

Jota 1st booking was not a booking, it was very very minor accidental collision.

No intent to bring him down, was just running next to him, happens all the time on the pitch.

Sometimes I think these cu*ts forget not everything is a foul and not everything is a booking.

Even the 2nd was not a booking, Jota did not touch him

Jota 1st booking was not a booking, it was very very minor accidental collision.

No intent to bring him down, was just running next to him, happens all the time on the pitch.

Sometimes I think these cu*ts forget not everything is a foul and not everything is a booking.

Everything is a foul unless it happens in the box where suddenly nothing is a foul (like the one where Gomez was taken down).

Agreed lads.

Jota 1st booking was not a booking, it was very very minor accidental collision.

No intent to bring him down, was just running next to him, happens all the time on the pitch.

Sometimes I think these cu*ts forget not everything is a foul and not everything is a booking.

Have seen these days that yellow cards are fished out regularly

And when one is given it’s not reviewed etc

Jota committed a blatent yellow card foul a bit earlier not long after he came on and the ref had a chat with him

Then the first yellow - in real time it’s looked like he has caught him

But then Jota himself should have been more aware - it was silly of him to dive in for the second yellow , was always going to happen


The worst yellow card of the day was for Salah - still not sure what he got it for

But then Jota himself should have been more aware - it was silly of him to dive in for the second yellow , was always going to happen

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This is true

Yes it wasn't great play by yer man Jota, but it looks like we'll have to factor in sh*te refs and half wit VAR refs.

"I was onside ref"

"Has to got to VAR..Varr...Varrrrr...Va rrrrrrrrrrrr..."

Var " ..ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzz...."

Yes it wasn't great play by yer man Jota, but it looks like we'll have to factor in sh*te refs and half wit VAR refs.

"I was onside ref"

"Has to got to VAR..Varr...Varrrrr...Va rrrrrrrrrrrr..."

Var " ..ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzz...."

L O L this is also true.