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      Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Jan 03, 2008 09:41:29 pm
      Another fine read from Paul Tomkins, guaranteed to make you feel better and see past the media hype !!

      Facts For a Time Capsule

      The distorting lens of the past is one of the most deceptive things in football; it’s easy to forget, with the foreshortening of time, how long it took rival managers to build their empires.

      I thought it would be advisable to write an article before the United game, that would still apply after it –– win, lose or draw.

      Because whatever happens, it’s just one game. A very important game, which will set some kind of marker and invoke a lot of passion and pride, but not a cup final, and not a title decider. And some things
      in football are not fundamentally changed by the result of one game in the first half of the season. The aim was to write something not distorted by either victory or defeat, particularly with the
      manager’s job said to still be in the balance.

      Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger, English football’s two outstanding managers since Bob Paisley’s retirement, remain in place for people to use as examples of Benítez’s “failure”, while there have also been
      some bizarrely unfavourable comparisons with GĂ©rard Houllier (the most recent being by Ian Ridley of the Mail, on Sky’s Sunday Supplement; I know Ridley is a pal of Houllier’s, but what had he been smoking? HE
      said “Houllier was sacked for finishing 15 points behind Arsenal”, when it was the small matter of 30 points).

      But since Mourinho departed*, Rafa is compared most with two heavily-established managers, despite still being in the initial stages of his time regarding building an empire at Liverpool. Plenty has changed in
      the last two decades, but it is unfair to judge Benítez against men who’ve sorted every last details at their clubs over a decade or two, rather than when they were at the same stage of their tenures.

      (*Mourinho is perhaps the only modern exception. But he didn’t really build an empire: merely breezed in, spent megabucks on an already expensive squad, taking it up to around the £300m mark, and blitzed his way to two titles. He did a great job, but it wasn’t a comparable situation to that at Liverpool. Avram Grant has done well so far, but he’s not had to build an empire, merely take control of someone else’s.)

      Anyone who’s read my pieces or books knows that I’m a big fan of Arsene Wenger. And I have a grudging respect for Alex Ferguson that, even when typing, I note through gritted teeth. But the media have locked in on some lazy stereotypes: Benítez, with his crazy rotation and barmy zonal marking (which just happens to lead to hardly any set-piece goals being conceded each season, but let’s ignore that), purveys purely pragmatic football, while his tactics work only in European games.

      Football is a subjective issue, but let’s concentrate on some facts:

          * Alex Ferguson’s first five seasons, after inheriting a team which
            had just finished 4th, were as follows: 11th*, 2nd, 11th, 13th, 6th.
            Rafa BenĂ­tez also inherited a team that had finished 4th, albeit a
            whopping 30 points behind the champions (compared with the United of
            ’86, who were just 12 points behind Dalglish’s champions), but
            subsequently finished 5th, 3rd and 3rd. (*In Ferguson’s defence, that
            first 11th-place finish came after he took charge in November 1986,
            roughly a third of the way into the season.)
          * So in his first five seasons, Ferguson took United so far
            backwards it’s almost farcical. Perhaps part of this was essential ––
            the idea of one step backwards, two steps forward. But those first
            years were five steps backwards to only one step forward. Manchester
            United had spent the previous five seasons in the top four before he
            arrived. In the five seasons following his arrival, they averaged 9th
            in the table. In the five years before Ferguson was appointed, United
            were averaging 75 points a season. In the five years after, they
            averaged an abysmal 59 –– just one point more than in BenĂ­tez’s
            Premier League annus horribilis, in year one.
             
          * Alex Ferguson won nothing until the end of his fourth season,
            when he landed an FA Cup. He followed this with a Cup Winners’ Cup in
            his fifth season. BenĂ­tez won a European Cup in his first season and
            an FA Cup in his second. He also made two other cup finals in his
            first three years, including a second in the Champions League.
             
          * In 1989, Ferguson broke the transfer record on Gary Pallister,
            spending ÂŁ2.3m. Steve Bruce and Paul Ince were also fairly expensive
            signings around that time, while in 1988 the Red Devils paid what was
            then a club record ÂŁ1.8m to buy back Mark Hughes. Ferguson’s capture
            of Roy Keane, at ÂŁ3.75m in 1992, also broke the British transfer
            record. These fees may not seem stellar now, but they were the ÂŁ30m
            deals of their day –– more expensive, by current terms, than Fernando
            Torres, who is more than ÂŁ10m below the current British record, with
            roughly a dozen other players (including Ferguson purchases Rooney,
            Ferdinand and Veron) also costing significantly more than the Spanish
            striker. It took Ferguson four years after this initial heavy
            expenditure, and with a lot more further investment, to win the league
            title –– his first ‘major’ honour (league titles and European Cups
            obviously being the two major ones big clubs look to win). The season
            when Ferguson signed Pallister and Ince, United finished in 13th
            place, with a paltry 48 points.
             
          * It took Ferguson between six and nine years to start reaping the
            dividends of his revamped youth system. The emergence of Giggs in 1991
            was the one early bonus, but Scholes, Butt, Beckham Neville and
            Neville first appeared between 1992 and 1995. Even now, in 2007, his
            team relies on three of those players. In those terms, BenĂ­tez would
            be relying on GĂ©rard Houllier’s youth recruitments; alas, none proved
            good enough.
             
          * Only now, after 11 years in charge, is Arsene Wenger enjoying
            more than the occasional bud blossoming from his famed youth set-up,
            with half a team constructed from canny scouting work commenced many
            years ago. During his first eight years, the only youngsters to be
            regulars were Vieira, Anelka and, from 2000 onwards, Ashley Cole. Kolo
            Toure arrived aged 20 in Wenger’s sixth season, Fabregas aged 16 in
            his eighth.
             
          * By contrast, BenĂ­tez only began his youth procurement policy in
            earnest in 2005; there wasn’t time in 2004, when he arrived. With many
            of the key players turning out to be BenĂ­tez’s signings (Hobbs,
            Anderson, Antwi, Roque, Hansen, Ajdarevic), Liverpool won the two most
            recent FA Youth Cups.
             
          * Wenger, meanwhile, has spent far more money on certain players
            than he’s given credit (debit?) for. For instance, look at his major
            buys, costing ÂŁ8m* or more: Jeffers (ÂŁ8m), Hleb (ÂŁ10m), Wiltord
            (ÂŁ13m), Reyes (deal rising to ÂŁ17m), Van Bronkhurst (ÂŁ8.5m), Henry
            (ÂŁ10.5m), Walcott (fee rising to ÂŁ12m), da Silva (reportedly between
            ÂŁ8m-ÂŁ16.5m). Not a high amount for 11 years, but not a low one,
            either. (*Prices ‘factually’ correct based on the most reliable
            media sources. Bear in mind that, because of football’s almost ten-
            fold inflation since 1992, and two-fold inflation since the late ‘90s,
            ÂŁ8m spent in 1999 is closer to ÂŁ15m in 2007. ÂŁ8m in 1999 was roughly
            half the transfer record in England, while ÂŁ15m is half the current
            one.) BenĂ­tez has only thus far signed four players for ÂŁ8m or more:
            Kuyt (ÂŁ9.5m), Alonso (ÂŁ10.5m), Babel (ÂŁ11.5m) and Torres (ÂŁ20m). And
            while Kuyt has slightly disappointed when it comes to his goal return,
            there is not a flop like Jeffers in sight.
             
          * If we’re talking about net spend due to recouping money,
            then Wenger has done extremely well. But of course, BenĂ­tez, who has
            also recouped a fair amount of money (his net spend this summer was
            only around ÂŁ25m), is in a disadvantaged position when it comes to
            comparing transfers this way, as a) after just three years, he’s still
            building his first true team, not dismantling it; b) none of his best
            players or main signings have asked to leave, unlike Anelka,
            Overmars, Petit, Vieira, Ashley Cole and Henry, whose sales netted
            Wenger almost all of his transfer income. Some of those players
            leaving hindered Arsenal, but of course gave Wenger a lot of money to
            reinvest, while others, like Henry and Vieira, left when approaching
            their sell-by dates.
             
          * If BenĂ­tez wished to sell Gerrard, Carragher, Torres, Reina,
            Agger, Alonso and Babel (or was forced to by transfer requests,
            neither of which is the case), he could raise ÂŁ120m and be trading at
            a big profit; thankfully that’s not his aim. Hopefully they’ll all
            leave for a small fee, on account of old age, in a decade’s time, when
            success has given them TLF (Trophy Lifting Fatigue). When it comes to
            selling inherited players, BenĂ­tez was also unlucky to be in a
            position to get only ÂŁ16m in total for Owen and CissĂ© (whose combined
            values were ÂŁ40m in 2003) due to contract length and horrific injuries
            respectively.
             
          * Arsene Wenger’s first five seasons resulted in the following
            finishes: 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 2nd. Very impressive. But ‘only’ one
            league title and no other ‘major’ trophies, so while ahead of him on
            average league position, on a par with BenĂ­tez after just three
            seasons in terms of major honours. I also feel that the rival managers
            to Ferguson and Wenger at the top of the league in the late ‘90s were
            inferior to what we now find: Roy Evans was a great backroom man but
            never proved himself as a top-class manager, while Ruud Gullit,
            Gianluca Vialli, and David O’Leary are all still relatively young but
            unable to get near a top job, having gone into high-profile positions
            in the late ‘90s without any real management experience or coaching
            pedigree. This was also the era of pre-Roman Abramovich Chelsea.
             
          * Wenger’s points tallies in his first five seasons were 68, 78, 78,
            73 and 70. BenĂ­tez managed a superior 82 in just his second season. It
            doesn’t mean that 2006 Liverpool were better than 1998 Arsenal, who
            won the league with just 78 points, but it does show, with the use of
            those pesky facts, that BenĂ­tez is not this naive man who struggles to
            win games in the Premier League while Wenger understands everything about
            English football. Additionally, in the last two seasons BenĂ­tez has
            finished above Wenger in the league.
             
          * Wenger’s Champions League record is not a patch on BenĂ­tez’s. In
            just three seasons, BenĂ­tez has reached twice the number of finals
            (two to one), and unlike Wenger, has actually won one. In 15
            successive years of qualifying (in itself a notable achievement),
            United have only made it to one solitary final. Until BenĂ­tez started
            doing so incredibly well in the European Cup, it was seen as being of
            massive importance to the big clubs; it may be coincidental, but it’s
            as if his success has led critics to downgrade that importance.
            Perhaps it’s my paranoia (and not necessarily a fact), but if Alex
            Ferguson had made two finals in three years, even his pet labrador
            would have been knighted by now.
             
          * BenĂ­tez has yet to fail to qualify for the Champions League, and
            has made the knockout stages for the fourth successive time, halfway
            through his fourth year. Before he arrived, Liverpool had failed to
            reach the competition at all (2003/04) and gone out in embarrassment
            in the group stage the year before (2002/03).
             
          * Wenger is a world-class manager, but it does seem strange that he
            has somehow ‘never signed a flop’, and that all his young signings
            have been ‘inspired’. In July 2007 The Times ran a piece about how
            BenĂ­tez had pipped Arsenal for Ryan Babel, which also intimated that
            Arsenal had lost interest in the Dutchman. Its author, having praised
            Wenger’s record in scouting young players as “proven and largely
            unblemished”, suggested that: “As a procurer of young talent, Rafael
            BenĂ­tez’s record has been somewhat hit and miss since he took over as
            Liverpool manager three years ago. Daniel Agger, the accomplished
            young Denmark defender, may be one of BenĂ­tez’s better acquisitions,
            but the failures ring a little louder than the successes. Gabriel
            Paletta anyone?”
             
          * If we’re talking about players in their late teens and early 20s,
            then as well as Agger, what about Xabi Alonso, Pepe Reina and Javier
            Mascherano, all just 22 when signed? Or Scott Carson, who’s now worth
            ten times his original fee? Even Momo Sissoko, whose stock is low at
            the moment, had two excellent seasons aged 20 and 21. How does
            Paletta’s name, alongside that of the disappointing Mark Gonzalez,
            outweigh all the successes when it comes to players aged 22 or under?
            Meanwhile, teenagers like Jack Hobbs, Emiliano Insua, Gerardo Bruna,
            Marvin Poure, Sebastian Leto and Daniel Pacheco have not had time to
            prove themselves; but each has looked the part at either youth or
            reserve level. After three and a half years in charge, Wenger had only
            fully blooded Anelka and Vieira, while relying heavily on older
            players he inherited, like Bergkamp and the back five. Since the
            Times’ piece, Babel has proved a big hit at Liverpool, as has another
            20-year-old, Lucas Leiva.
             
          * Which brings us back to perceptions; or perhaps just
            misconceptions. How does the ÂŁ10-17m failure of JosĂ© Antonio Reyes, 21
            when signed, fit in with this picture of Wenger, the master, and
            BenĂ­tez, the failure in the art of procuring young talent? Wenger’s
            judgement is undoubtedly up there with the very best, but would even
            he call his judgement ‘largely unblemished’ when thinking of Cygan,
            Stepanovs, Wreh, Diawara, Chukwunyelu-Obinna, Danilevicious, Luzhny,
            Volz, van Bronckhurst, Boa Morte, Wright, Jeffers and Wiltord? –– many
            of whom were youngsters when they signed for the Gunners, and plenty
            of whom weren’t cheap. And the list doesn’t even include those who
            came and went without even being noticed, or only proved medium-level
            successes, like Senderos.


      So, just a few facts to bear in mind, both before and after the United game, about where BenĂ­tez ranks against his main rivals at the same stage of their tenures.

      Quite simply, Rafa Benítez has to be the man to lead this club forward, for two more seasons at the very least (unless things go really pear-shaped). Arsene Wenger, after one early success, only made Arsenal a truly great side in his 6th season, and Ferguson –– a man who also laboured under two-decades of pressure to win the league title –– took until his 7th to do just that.

      If Rafa is going to be under pressure to keep his job following every defeat –– and here I’m only going on what’s said in the papers, which may or may not be reliable –– the club is in grave danger of shooting itself in the foot. All managers lose games; it’s an inescapable part of football. No manager is perfect.

      Liverpool FC needs strong and consistent leadership right now. It has it on the pitch and in the dugout, and now is the time to prove that it’s the case behind the scenes, too.

      Until genuine peace is officially (and festively) announced at Anfield, I’ll continue to throw a few facts around and call for common sense. I am not saying that anyone within Liverpool’s hierarchy lacks this crucial trait –– in my heart I want to believe they don’t –– but if Rafa is sacked, or made to work under unbearable pressure and with unreasonable demands, then I’ll have to revise that conclusion.

      © Paul Tomkins 2007
      CRK
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #1: Jan 03, 2008 11:30:42 pm
      I love this man! Cracking article that Smiggs, cheers for posting that up! ;D
      Tayls
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #2: Jan 04, 2008 12:13:56 am
      Those facts sure are interesting.

      The man's definately done his research, and it makes pleasing reading.
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #3: Jan 04, 2008 12:44:45 am
      He could polish a turd that fella.
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #4: Jan 04, 2008 01:05:42 am
       :lmao: You better be here all week!!

      Good read that Smiggs. Thanks for posting.
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #5: Jan 04, 2008 02:21:17 am
      Paul Tomkins- what a top fella.

      Thanks for posting that Smiggs, making me feel a little bit better already. Any chance you can send a copy of it over to G & H?
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #6: Jan 04, 2008 11:08:56 am
      Love the article... educational and well-written...

      now i feel much better
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #7: Jan 04, 2008 11:15:34 am
      Paul Tomkins- what a top fella.

      Thanks for posting that Smiggs, making me feel a little bit better already. Any chance you can send a copy of it over to G & H?

      Good to see i'm not the only one who's smiling a bit since reading that eye-opning article.

      Go Mighty Reds! IN RAFA WE TRUST!
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #8: Jan 04, 2008 12:15:52 pm
      Good to see I'm not the only one who's smiling a bit since reading that eye-opning article.

      Go Mighty Reds! IN RAFA WE TRUST!

      Keep an eye out for his articles, the man's a magician! ;)
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #9: Jan 04, 2008 06:51:43 pm
      Super article one of the best Ive read from him actually nice post smigger. I dont always agree with everything he says but he is very much in the same school as me regarding our parade through the media.
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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #10: Jan 04, 2008 10:48:20 pm
      Great article as always from Paul I especially like this bit
      Quote
      "Hopefully they’ll all
            leave for a small fee, on account of old age, in a decade’s time, when
            success has given them TLF (Trophy Lifting Fatigue)."


      Great reading and definitely a eye raiser!

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      Re: Facts for a Time Capsule - Paul Tomkins - Excellent reading !!
      Reply #11: Jan 05, 2008 12:34:41 am
      Bloody Paul Tomkins... I was just about to say all that....!  ::) :D
      Has he swallowed a Stats bible on LFC?
      Incredible knowledge and a poignant read to put things in to perspective.
      Good Man. :scarf: :kop5cf8koxp6: :scarf:
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      Reply #12: Jan 05, 2008 10:31:52 pm
      excellent read......breath of fresh air

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