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      RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Jan 17, 2008 12:16:06 pm
      As written by RTK

      The events of the past few days have proved what, deep down, we've known for a long time. These two jerry builders are not fit to be associated with our club. Whatever we might have thought about their motives, their personas, their politics, we allowed ourselves to believe that they had a gut sense of Liverpool's special ness, and a good sense of what is the minimum acceptable requirement here in terms of honour and tradition. In short, they gave a good impression of understanding, and cherishing The Liverpool Way.
       
      They said they would build a stadium fit for the world's most legendary football club.

      They said they would never contemplate securitising their loans against the club.

      They said they'd back our manager.

      They lied.

      We know this now

      We know it for an absolute fact.

      Our club is in the hands of disreputable men, men who, if they want success for Liverpool, want it solely in order to fatten up the calf for sale.

      The current situation is unworkable. Rafael Benitez, with his ingrained sense of honour, dignity and morality, has been publicly humiliated by Hicks and Gillett (and while Hicks is far and away the baddie of the piece, let's not underestimate the smiling, twinkling George's complicity in all this any more than he has underestimated our intelligence, our nous, and our own ingrained ability to rat out a wrong 'un when they wheedle their way in.) Rafa would have walked away by now but for one small thing the Americans will never 'get'. He loves it here. He loves the club, loves the fans, loves the city, and loves The Liverpool Way. More than anybody at the club, he is desperate to deliver for us that which we long for so badly.

      They will sack him in the summer. They have left themselves with no other option. If Hicks had come out on Sunday and said:

      "Fair do's Rafa, we were itchy on the trigger, you weren't conforming to the chart flow on our business plan, we wanted you out... but we realise now we got it wrong. Go buy Drenthe, Daniel Alves and Sergio Aguero, and while you're at it, tie up Mascherano long term and here's a new 5 year contract..."

      You'd possibly have given them a stay of execution. But he didn't. He gave the manager (and thus the fans, the club, the players) a vote of no confidence in front of, and to the delight of, the world's slavering media. He'll have to sack Rafa in the summer, just to keep face. Unless...

      Unless he's not there. And he's not too far from doing one, you know. This whole madcap scheme that George has dragged him into is far, far madder, far more expensive, and far less fun than he'd thought it'd be. He thought it was going to be like planting money seeds and picking dollar bills off the tree in a few years time. He thought Liverpool fans were going to be like Dallas Cowboys supporters, if a little louder - but nonetheless grateful for his patronage, and a little bit cowed by his enormous wealth. What he's found here is that it's difficult, it's cold, it's expensive - and the fans care a little too much about their team. They care so much that they answer back to the owners.

      That's what we have to do, comrades - answer back, loud and clear. We know the arguments, we know we're not Geordies, we know there's something very un-Liverpool about all this marching and protesting. But there's something very, very Scouse about the refusal to lie down and toe the party line, the refusal to swallow corporate sh*te and the willingness to strike and fight back if we need to right a wrong.

      Our immediate target needs to be Foster Gillett. In the way that these flinty oligarchs always send their disappointing offspring away to the furthest, most hostile outposts of their empire to try and toughen them up, Foster has drawn the Liverpool straw. He's only pretending to live here. He spends his time in London, comes up for the Monday meeting, pads around Melwood then vapourises. He doesn't really want to be here. A sustained period of invective targeted at Foster on Monday night will unsettle him further. He'll be straight on the phone to his Dad saying:

      "Look what that idiot partner of yours has subjected me to. I'm out of here."

      No matter how rich the magnates or how close their partnership, filial loyalty and the need for a father to protect his offspring will come ahead of everything. The splinters we're hearing about in Hicks and Gillett's relationship will become a chasm, with the effect of accelerating their exit strategy.

      Be under no illusions. If DIC come in, they'll want to run it as a business, too. Whoever comes in next - and we could be bracing ourselves for a future where ownership changes hands every 5 or 10 years - will never have Liverpool's traditions running through them like we do. But there's a minimum acceptable standard in ownership too, and Hicks and Gillett have fallen badly short. It gives us no joy to recommend it, but we have to drive them out - starting with Foster on Monday night.

      These are critical times for Liverpool F.C. If Hicks stays, Rafa goes - it's that simple. And if Rafa goes, the empire he's building crumbles - no-one would even bet against Carra and Stevie Gerrard walking out on the shell that used to be LFC. All and any other reservations and complaints we've got about ticket allocations, ground moves, and horrid purple ties have to be put to one side. Any feeling about Rafa's rotation and tactics. All to one side. This is Us against Them. The Liverpool Way against The American Way. We've got run the bas**rds, end of story. Monday night, let them know. Yankees, Yankees F**k off home..."

      THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT RAFA
      THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT FANS
      LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB
      IS IN THE WRONG HANDS

      Please use this thread for ideas for next Monday night. Catchy ditties that can be aired by all. Get the message acoss vocally to young Foster in the stands and his guardians back across the Atlantic. Post anything you've got below – and we'll sweep through the best of them over the weekend and get them back up, ready for everyone to air on Monday night. Tuesday night against Luton was just the start. We need to flush this cancer out of our club. We can all play our part. Fighting for The Liverpool Way. We want our club back.

      We'll fight for the boys in red,
      We'll fight the fight for Liverpool,
      The team that Shankly bred….
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #1: Jan 17, 2008 12:54:07 pm
      Top piece for writing.

      Every single word rings true.

      Only one man to blame - Parry.

      DIC are now our saviours and instead of them being grateful to us for allowing them to buy the club, we are going to have to be grateful to them for saving our heritage from these cu*ts.

      I just hope, upon hope that any thoughts Rafa may have to leaving the club in the summer, simply don't materialise.

      IRWT

      Without Rafa we will go back another 5 years, at least... who can he look to in the club for long-term stability?
      Right now, nobody off the field ...and probably only Carra on iit.



      « Last Edit: Jan 17, 2008 02:59:25 pm by donrafael »
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      Reply #2: Jan 17, 2008 01:19:39 pm
      Excellent writting,

      What with the DIC talk tho? have they said they are willing to buy off of those yanks?
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      Reply #3: Jan 17, 2008 01:22:25 pm
      Excellent writting,

      What with the DIC talk tho? have they said they are willing to buy off of those yanks?

      Yes they have stated the would go into shared ownership

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/01/17/dubai-to-make-liverpool-fc-bid-100252-20361303/



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      Reply #4: Jan 17, 2008 01:39:30 pm
      Great piece, all true. Too bad i wont be there chanting out 'F**k off Yanks'

      Masch, Pepe and Nando too
      They're all here because of you.
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #5: Jan 17, 2008 04:51:33 pm
      They are making us a laughing stock we should hound them out of the club sooner the better.
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #6: Jan 17, 2008 05:06:28 pm
      I feel for Rafa i really do. He has been nothing but loyal to us fans from day one and he is subjected to the crap coming from hicks. I would like nothing better than to see the Americans leave for good. Seeing him having to answer the questions asked about whether he felt undermined by the owners felt wrong because of how much of a timid man he seems to be and he seems like he will do anything not to lose his job at this club. i hope so much that he isnt forced out of liverpool.
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      Reply #7: Jan 17, 2008 05:20:32 pm
      These are hard times for our club and the exposure of these criminals at the helm of our beloved club need to be ousted NOW

      In rafa we believe
      In the team we believe
      In our hearts we believe

      We all know whats right for our club and those damn yanks ain't right for our club

      They promised so much and have not delivered a thing apart from media embarrassment

      In rafa we trust
      YNWA

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      Reply #8: Jan 17, 2008 09:24:15 pm
      Hicks and Gillet have had problems in raising finances. They gave us all the talk but can't walk the walk. All through this, they have wanted to keep the fans happy and not draw attention to the mess that was going on backstage between the board, Parry and the themselves. As long as LFC did well on the pitch and the stadium plans looked amazing, they could cover up their shortcomings on promises and finance. They needed everyone to play along with them and everyone did, especially Parry, although one person had other ideas....

      Rafa has been reported as being petulant in the furore that happened late last year. I just think he told it how it was. And why not? He's got the right to say what he feels.
      If his job is being judged on performances and his job is being undermined by the very people who sit in judgment on him then he should be able to say what he feels. His credentials as a manager were and are unquestionable. H and G have probably never had the truth thrown back at them so emphatically by one of their employees and they obviously didn't like it .Their response was to say get on with your job and coach the players you have and Rafa, in total frustration, took the piss out of them. I think he knew then that they wanted to remove him, preferably by making it hard for him so that in the end he walked, thereby avoiding any payoff.
      Wearing a tracksuit and talking to the media in the way that he did was an ironic expression of how he felt inside. If you had given three years of your professional life to a job that also involved the relocation of your family(and by all reports they are very settled here) and living and breathing LFC 24/7. Hours and hours of work, preparation, patience and above all , having a vision of the club,then how many of us would of been able to deal with a newcomer Boss patronizing you and telling you just to get on and coach the players? The last thing that they would of wanted was for Rafa to done what he did seeing as they wanted to keep the lid on all the trouble underneath. This set them thinking. How could they possibly look good in front of the fans and keep everything quiet with a Manager that was prepared to tell them openly (and the media) what he thought about their running of the club? This is when they lined up Kinsmann, a man of potential maybe, but also a potential 'Yes man' to go side by side with Parry. Klinsmann would of been delighted to of been offered the opportunity to manage LFC but he might also of repaid the owners in saying yes to their version of how the club proceeds over the next 10 years, sideways maybe?
      You decide but we'll find out at some point.
      Rafa has more integrity than most in the game, more honesty and tells it like it is and H&G don't like that. H&G want a Yes man, like Parry and a Yes man doesn't question the figures or the procedures, neither do they blow their top when promises are broken. H&G need a manager that plays along with their so called idea of how to run a football club. They don't want to look inept or as if they are solely in for the profit but today we can now see them for what they actually are, especially Hicks. Their PR machine needs to go into overdrive. Give Rafa a new contract, sort the finances out and buy big in the summer, or get out and quick.

      Things move fast in football, even the media has tipped slightly in sympathy for Rafa after Hick's latest confirmation of 'Kinsmann-gate'.

      This week has been a sad one for LFC only sweetend by last nights win that showed the potential of a team undergoing a current rebuilding process.

      If given the time, Rafa could turn LFC into the footballing force it is known for throughout the world.

      If given the time H&G could do untold damage to the club.

      Lets hope though, that through all this, whether D.I.C  comes in or not, that the fans, the manager and the traditions of this great club are truly respected.
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      Reply #9: Jan 17, 2008 11:03:39 pm
      its not only hicks and gillette we need to chant out its that brown nosing no good piece of filth parry
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #10: Jan 17, 2008 11:08:13 pm
      As written by RTK

      The events of the past few days have proved what, deep down, we've known for a long time. These two jerry builders are not fit to be associated with our club. Whatever we might have thought about their motives, their personas, their politics, we allowed ourselves to believe that they had a gut sense of Liverpool's special ness, and a good sense of what is the minimum acceptable requirement here in terms of honour and tradition. In short, they gave a good impression of understanding, and cherishing The Liverpool Way.
       
      They said they would build a stadium fit for the world's most legendary football club.

      They said they would never contemplate securitising their loans against the club.

      They said they'd back our manager.

      They lied.

      We know this now

      We know it for an absolute fact.

      Our club is in the hands of disreputable men, men who, if they want success for Liverpool, want it solely in order to fatten up the calf for sale.

      The current situation is unworkable. Rafael Benitez, with his ingrained sense of honour, dignity and morality, has been publicly humiliated by Hicks and Gillett (and while Hicks is far and away the baddie of the piece, let's not underestimate the smiling, twinkling George's complicity in all this any more than he has underestimated our intelligence, our nous, and our own ingrained ability to rat out a wrong 'un when they wheedle their way in.) Rafa would have walked away by now but for one small thing the Americans will never 'get'. He loves it here. He loves the club, loves the fans, loves the city, and loves The Liverpool Way. More than anybody at the club, he is desperate to deliver for us that which we long for so badly.

      They will sack him in the summer. They have left themselves with no other option. If Hicks had come out on Sunday and said:

      "Fair do's Rafa, we were itchy on the trigger, you weren't conforming to the chart flow on our business plan, we wanted you out... but we realise now we got it wrong. Go buy Drenthe, Daniel Alves and Sergio Aguero, and while you're at it, tie up Mascherano long term and here's a new 5 year contract..."

      You'd possibly have given them a stay of execution. But he didn't. He gave the manager (and thus the fans, the club, the players) a vote of no confidence in front of, and to the delight of, the world's slavering media. He'll have to sack Rafa in the summer, just to keep face. Unless...

      Unless he's not there. And he's not too far from doing one, you know. This whole madcap scheme that George has dragged him into is far, far madder, far more expensive, and far less fun than he'd thought it'd be. He thought it was going to be like planting money seeds and picking dollar bills off the tree in a few years time. He thought Liverpool fans were going to be like Dallas Cowboys supporters, if a little louder - but nonetheless grateful for his patronage, and a little bit cowed by his enormous wealth. What he's found here is that it's difficult, it's cold, it's expensive - and the fans care a little too much about their team. They care so much that they answer back to the owners.

      That's what we have to do, comrades - answer back, loud and clear. We know the arguments, we know we're not Geordies, we know there's something very un-Liverpool about all this marching and protesting. But there's something very, very Scouse about the refusal to lie down and toe the party line, the refusal to swallow corporate sh*te and the willingness to strike and fight back if we need to right a wrong.

      Our immediate target needs to be Foster Gillett. In the way that these flinty oligarchs always send their disappointing offspring away to the furthest, most hostile outposts of their empire to try and toughen them up, Foster has drawn the Liverpool straw. He's only pretending to live here. He spends his time in London, comes up for the Monday meeting, pads around Melwood then vapourises. He doesn't really want to be here. A sustained period of invective targeted at Foster on Monday night will unsettle him further. He'll be straight on the phone to his Dad saying:

      "Look what that idiot partner of yours has subjected me to. I'm out of here."

      No matter how rich the magnates or how close their partnership, filial loyalty and the need for a father to protect his offspring will come ahead of everything. The splinters we're hearing about in Hicks and Gillett's relationship will become a chasm, with the effect of accelerating their exit strategy.

      Be under no illusions. If DIC come in, they'll want to run it as a business, too. Whoever comes in next - and we could be bracing ourselves for a future where ownership changes hands every 5 or 10 years - will never have Liverpool's traditions running through them like we do. But there's a minimum acceptable standard in ownership too, and Hicks and Gillett have fallen badly short. It gives us no joy to recommend it, but we have to drive them out - starting with Foster on Monday night.

      These are critical times for Liverpool F.C. If Hicks stays, Rafa goes - it's that simple. And if Rafa goes, the empire he's building crumbles - no-one would even bet against Carra and Stevie Gerrard walking out on the shell that used to be LFC. All and any other reservations and complaints we've got about ticket allocations, ground moves, and horrid purple ties have to be put to one side. Any feeling about Rafa's rotation and tactics. All to one side. This is Us against Them. The Liverpool Way against The American Way. We've got run the bas**rds, end of story. Monday night, let them know. Yankees, Yankees F**k off home..."

      THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT RAFA
      THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT FANS
      LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB
      IS IN THE WRONG HANDS

      Please use this thread for ideas for next Monday night. Catchy ditties that can be aired by all. Get the message acoss vocally to young Foster in the stands and his guardians back across the Atlantic. Post anything you've got below – and we'll sweep through the best of them over the weekend and get them back up, ready for everyone to air on Monday night. Tuesday night against Luton was just the start. We need to flush this cancer out of our club. We can all play our part. Fighting for The Liverpool Way. We want our club back.

      We'll fight for the boys in red,
      We'll fight the fight for Liverpool,
      The team that Shankly bred….


      Sorry Chump utter F***ing BOLLOX:

      You have to give these guys some time to relize and learn, I have a positon for Rafa that I have argued for against those here who state he is not worth supporting. I disagree I think he is. I also think that this is over sensationlising something that the media have yet again put forward in a demonic manner to try and unsettle the staff and supporters of the club. And by writing such utter bollox you are jumping right into their Man Utd supporting little hands.

      Go buy Drenthe, Daniel Alves and Sergio Aguero

      You are taking the piss mate surely!! 3 of the most overrated diving money grabbing little cu*ts this side of cuntsville. If this peice was written by a real supporter he would have put down Paul Anderson (currently on loan to Swansea) great little winger and hey will cost us F**k ALL. Or is your support the one for wasting more of our money.

      From where Im sitting all people seem to be worrying about is money and the money that will buy us players who lets face it dont give a sh*t about this club and from where Im sitting wouldnt last 10 seconds in the EPL, if they could they would be here already and that is a fact because its the best F***ing league in the world FACT.

      Why throw up in turmoil whats already been said, in business people have disagreements, wasnt their clear the air talks?? Im telling you something that Rafa knew about this in the first instance because the yanks thought that he may make a move back to Real Madrid, which is fair enough in my opion. They would have needed someone to take the job and seeing as Klinsman is an Americanite and lives in California thats the guy they went for.

      By jumping on this kill the yanks bandwagon I really think you and others like you are playing into the medias hands you are over sensationlising a simple statement like many others seem to do. Should we not give them till the end of the season to jusitfy their position?? I think so.

      We also need to close ranks and close shop stand together and tell the rest of the world to F**k off THAT IS THE LIVERPOOL WAY and instead of writing such hate mongering bullshit we need to get behind the team the manager and the club and shout our support. Its this kind of unsettlement that can go part way to relizing why we are 12 points off the pace!! I will wait till the end of the season to make my assumptions till then I will stfu and support my club not start a hate campaign against the owners.
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      Reply #11: Jan 17, 2008 11:14:39 pm
      I agree with some sentiments of the piece but I think I go along with donrafael a bit more.

      Rick Parry is technically running the football club.  Unfortunately he is a spineless man with seemingly no morals.  I don't want us to turn in to a protesting marching club, and the fact that our seemingly inept Chief Executive remains as silent as a mouse is most worrying.

      Foster Gillett clearly doesn't want to be here.  I am extremely disappointed in the fact that we are essentially a plaything for these two, and they have effectively failed on every single promise they made us.

      They had so much goodwill but their actions have been a disgrace to every Liverpool supporter who holds certain values close to their heart.

      This really has been a clash of the old school football supporters against the modern corporate business.  And did we ever imagine it would happen to our club?

      The simple fact of the matter is this.  All David Moores needed to do was to get rid of Rick Parry and get somebody in with half an ounce of common sense and the ability to effectively manage a 21st century sports club.

      We should have had this stadium built years ago - when it was only going to cost £70 million.

      We are being run, and have been for quite some time, by the biggest bunch of clowns in sport and in business.

      Things will never ever be the same again.
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #12: Jan 17, 2008 11:26:31 pm
      I agree with some sentiments of the piece but I think I go along with donrafael a bit more.

      Rick Parry is technically running the football club.  Unfortunately he is a spineless man with seemingly no morals.  I don't want us to turn in to a protesting marching club, and the fact that our seemingly inept Chief Executive remains as silent as a mouse is most worrying.

      Foster Gillett clearly doesn't want to be here.  I am extremely disappointed in the fact that we are essentially a plaything for these two, and they have effectively failed on every single promise they made us.

      They had so much goodwill but their actions have been a disgrace to every Liverpool supporter who holds certain values close to their heart.

      This really has been a clash of the old school football supporters against the modern corporate business.  And did we ever imagine it would happen to our club?

      The simple fact of the matter is this.  All David Moores needed to do was to get rid of Rick Parry and get somebody in with half an ounce of common sense and the ability to effectively manage a 21st century sports club.

      We should have had this stadium built years ago - when it was only going to cost £70 million.

      We are being run, and have been for quite some time, by the biggest bunch of clowns in sport and in business.

      Things will never ever be the same again.

      I would agree somewhat with what people are saying with regards to slickrick JD, however I also think your assumptions about being a plaything are a bit unfair. Surely does it not stand to reason that when someone shells out and huge amount of money for what they see as an investment, a learning curve insues when said investors are unsure about the prodcut they have invested in??

      I would agree that somethings seem a little tainted, but in some respects you cannot blame anyone else but the media for this assumption. We being consumers of such media may in the long run misinterpret things as being fact, when in fact there may be other deep routed issues.

      I for one just cant see any big business man buying into to something like LFC to make a quick buck!! It just cant be that simple we are talking huge sums of money that these guys have taken onboard in personal debt and as for the fact that they are trying to offload said debt onto the club is pure heresay.

      Im still going to wait till the end of the season to make my assumptions, but I would urge Mr Parry should be replaced at some point as his indecsion lack of charisma and lack of communication skills does not stand him in very good light in my opion.
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      Reply #13: Jan 18, 2008 01:21:37 am
      rafa needs to be affered a 10 year contract not a 5 year one! managers get moved in and out of clubs too quikly nowadays. look at man u and arsenal, success only comes from one manager building an empire not like the geordies and have 6 every 4 years.

      im not sure about the owners situation but im not a big fan of corperate yanks any way, im hoping this is all just media bullshit hype but if worst came to worst the yanks need to be kicked out and rafa needs to be kept here at all costs, he is the key to our success. so if it was to happen the fans need to barracade anfeild and keep rafa in, just like the supporters for derby did for brian clough. hopefully we'd be able to get him to stay though, the difference between them is cloughie wanted to leave becouse he gave into the board room but i cannot see rafa leaving for anyone, he loves it here.

      Parry should be replaced and as prag just stated im going to make my assumtions at the end of the season or unless those tossers make another big F**k up before hand.
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      Reply #14: Jan 18, 2008 09:16:35 am
      "We also need to close ranks and close shop stand together and tell the rest of the world to F**k off THAT IS THE LIVERPOOL WAY and instead of writing such hate mongering bullshit we need to get behind the team the manager and the club and shout our support. Its this kind of unsettlement that can go part way to relizing why we are 12 points off the pace!! I will wait till the end of the season to make my assumptions till then I will stfu and support my club not start a hate campaign against the owners."

      Pragmatic, this is the best advice for us all.
      I would not condone trying to run these yanks out of town, we are being carried away on the media sh*te circus surrounding LFC at the moment. Can you imagine the furor of protests and marches and songs against the Americans. It just plays into the hands of these shysters.

      We all support Liverpool Football CLUB, not just the players and the manager.

      Please dont get me wrong, i think that these americans are not doing a particularily good job at the moment, and Parry is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard, but SUPPORT the CLUB.

      I think a lot of this revolves around the fiasco that is the new stadium. We all crave information on this. Why not give us a look at these? I personally would be a lot happier when the work starts, i think it would show commitment from the US. (I'm considering coming up to Stanley PArk in a JCB painted in LFC red and just digging a few holes!)
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #15: Jan 18, 2008 11:13:30 am
      I personally would be a lot happier when the work starts, I think it would show commitment from the US. (I'm considering coming up to Stanley PArk in a JCB painted in LFC red and just digging a few holes!)

      JCB painted red is very acceptable - but no stars and stripes on it for the cameras - por favor.
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      Reply #16: Jan 18, 2008 12:57:15 pm
      Need some cement?
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      Reply #17: Jan 18, 2008 12:59:16 pm

      Only if Hicks is stuck in it... or in his gob, either will do.
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      Reply #18: Jan 18, 2008 01:02:24 pm
      In that case i got about 10 bags full of the stuff.
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      Reply #19: Jan 18, 2008 01:40:57 pm
      In that case I got about 10 bags full of the stuff.

      You will need at least 15 bags for his mouth alone dude...!
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      Reply #20: Jan 18, 2008 02:35:30 pm
      If the DIC do mount a takeover bid would it be best to just target Gillets half because he is'nt as strong minded as hicks and his comments about Hicks approaching Kilnsman is the first time he has actually spoken out about anything and I think he could be persuaded to let his shares go and then the DIC can just give Hicks a pay off and get rid of the b***ard Parry
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #21: Jan 18, 2008 03:03:03 pm
      Hicks says that he has the best interest of LFC at heart if that's the case why is he in dispute with Gillette about the loan they both took out.It seems they are pulling in different directions and the only loser will be our great club.I don't think Hicks wants anything other than to sell at top price but it seems as if he wants to settle some scores first i.e.give Raffa the sack,put Parry in his place for not backing him against Gillette in the present power struggle...How did such a man get hold of LFC...Saying Hicks go home is pointless really when Hicks is home he rarely shows his face at Anfield and he never will unless a lot changes before the end of the season...
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      Reply #22: Jan 18, 2008 03:07:27 pm
      You will need at least 15 bags for his mouth alone dude...!
      Feck me what was i thinking?
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      Reply #23: Jan 18, 2008 03:41:47 pm
      Talking of little ditties for mondays game use the tune of ''The Yanks Are (Coming)''Over there,Over there
      The Yanks are Going
      Over There
      Go Back Home
      So Stay Away From Liverpool
      And Don't come back again(Repeat)

      silly I know but maybe the yanks will understand the tune as its theirs.
      « Last Edit: Jan 18, 2008 08:38:22 pm by JD »
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      Reply #24: Jan 18, 2008 03:45:00 pm
      A polite F**k off would do. Release Carra on them and we'll be sweat. ;)
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      Reply #25: Jan 18, 2008 04:55:42 pm
      If the DIC do not replace Hicks by the summer then he will give Rafa the sack regardless if we win the Champions league or F.a cup or even both. He just does not like Rafa and he is carrying a personal vendetta against him just because Rafa spoke his mind in order to make the team even better. However if DiC take over after Hicks has sacked Rafa then I would of thought that they would re-instate him as manager because unlike  Hicks they want what is best for the club and want the fans and players to be happy so having no Rafa means unhappy fans and unhappy players. The DIC are the only ones that can save his job so even by just taking over 50% his job is safe because Hicks would have to sanction it with the DIC and that just isn't going to happen. To be honest I would rather see Hicks walk away from the club with 80 odd million in his pocket if it means he goes. He will ruin Liverpool Fottball Club and will end up just running them into the ground with huge amounts of debt and before you know what we end up like Leeds. So Hicks F**k OFF BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND STAY THERE AND RUIN A DIFFERENT TEAM BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME ON MERSEYSIDE IF YOU CARRY ON THE WAY YOUR GOING!!! (unless you buy E*****n and ruin them)  :f_steam: :f_steam:
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      Reply #26: Jan 18, 2008 06:31:56 pm
      It truly breaks my heart to see what's happening to my beloved club.

      It makes me sick.

      Sooner these yanks F**k off , the better in my opinion , they are making a laughing stock of the greatest club in the world and dragging our name through the dirt. This is NOT the Liverpool way !

      They dont deserve any more time , they are cretins and parasites on everything the club holds dear.
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      Reply #27: Jan 18, 2008 08:14:57 pm
      Yankee doodles came to Anfield and look what they did find,
       The best supporters in the world did not like their kind.
       They told us lies about the money,
       we did not find this very funny.
       And most of us are at a loss as why they wanted to get rid of our BOSS.
       Its time to say in RAFA we trust, getting rid of Tom and George is a must,
      D.I.C. please come back and give Tom,George and Rick the sack.
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      Reply #28: Jan 18, 2008 08:21:13 pm
      As a matter of fact ladies and gentlemen.  I will gladly go home.

      Selling stake.
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      Reply #29: Jan 18, 2008 08:23:37 pm
      Ta-ra !   :action-smiley-065:
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      Reply #30: Jan 18, 2008 08:26:27 pm
      As a matter of fact ladies and gentlemen.  I will gladly go home.

      Selling stake.

      F**k off then you pie eating tw*t!
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      Reply #31: Jan 18, 2008 09:26:22 pm
      F**k off then you pie eating tw*t!

      Tom Hicks is from Wigan? :o
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      Reply #32: Jan 18, 2008 09:36:22 pm
      :D :D :D
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      Reply #33: Jan 19, 2008 12:59:21 am
      if we are going to chant for them to feck off does anyone know if foster attends the games if so we have to be in his face when he arrives at the ground right up untill he leaves 1 it stated that he lives in london well any of you southern reds out there find out where he is at and get in his face there we have to make sure in no uncertain terms that we want them OUT
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      Reply #34: Jan 19, 2008 01:07:57 pm
      DIC are in town. Start a chant for them. He is always in the crowd when he comes to Liverpool if he tagged along with the others.
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      Reply #35: Jan 19, 2008 02:25:18 pm
      If there was a Hollywood film about Liverpool then you can guarantee it would be the yanks that won the 5 European Cups!!
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      Reply #36: Jan 21, 2008 11:29:33 am
      YANKEES GO HOME

      1 DIC BETTER THAN 2 TITS
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      Reply #37: Jan 21, 2008 12:50:43 pm
      A post by RTK for anyone attending tonight






      Tonight, we all have a duty.

      Do we sit back and accept the way our club is being run, dragged through the mud and splattered all over the front pages of every paper in the country? Do we ignore the LIES spouted by our new owners? Do we sit there in silence and shrug our shoulders at the way Liverpool Football Club's great name is being tarnished by liars like Tom Hicks and George Gillett?

      They promised us they would never place the club into debt, and all finance would be secured against their personal assets, not the clubs. THEY LIED.

      The promised they would back the manager in the transfer market, even buying him Snoogy Doogy if he wanted. We have spent the same as we do every year. THEY LIED.

      They promised to build us the best football stadium in the world. THEY LIED.

      Most of all, they promised to act as custodians, and respect the name of Liverpool Football Club, it's history, heritage and traditions. THEY LIED.

      We're not happy to sit back and accept all that. We answer back. We make ourselves heard. We let them know exactly how we feel about the events of the past few months. About their failure to follow up the promises made with their PR spin last summer. It's time to ask them the question.

      We're supposed to place our trust in the men who thought Klinsmann was qualified enough to take over the reigns at Anfield. A man with no club management experience. A man with no track record of success in management. And all this selected by 2 Americans who confessed themselves just over 6 months ago that they know very little about "soccer". That, as well as the above lies – are you happy for these men to continue running OUR club?

      We urge everyone to make their feelings known tonight. And if the person next to you isn't, urge them to join you. We're all in this together. We fight for OUR club. They own the deeds, we own the spirit. You can buy one but not the other. Leave them in no doubt of our thoughts.

      No matter where you are in the ground tonight, play your part.

      Forget success. Forget the new ground. Forget the supposed Holy Grail of the 19th League title. This is about honour. It's about history, principles, tradition and soul. Liverpool F.C is one of the handful of sporting institutions left in the world that has any soul, and these two 'custodians' are nakedly and shamelessly trying to sell our soul down the Swanee. It's down to ourselves, the ordinary fans, to stand up and be counted tonight and send Hicks and Gillett a message that, even with their communication problems, they can't possibly mishear. Kopites Unite - Save Our Soul


      Tune: (with old words - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUnjnZayMTk )

      They don't care about Rafa
      They don't care about fans
      Liverpool Football Club
      Is in the wrong hands


       
      Tune: Same as "We're not English We are Scouse"

      Get the Yanks out
      Get the Yanks out
      Get the Yanks out of our club

       

      Tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5xj0WC0fE8 (30 seconds in)

      F**k off Foster
      F**k off Foster
      F**k off Foster



      Tune: "We've won it 5 times"

      Get out of our club
      Get out of our club
      You lying bas**rds
      Get out of our club



      Tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3tF-iLP8Oo

      We all hate Yanks and Yanks and Yanks
      Yanks and Yanks and Yanks and Yanks
      Yanks and Yanks and Yanks
      We all F***ing hate Yanks…



      Tune: I think we all know this one
       
      You're not fit to
      You're not fit to
      You're not fit to run our club
      You're not fit to run our club

      S.O.S
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      Re: RTK Piece on current situation " YANKEES GO HOME"
      Reply #38: Jan 21, 2008 01:40:41 pm
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      Reply #39: Jan 21, 2008 02:04:09 pm

      Felt very embarrased and angry reading that.

      Angry because The Echo with their tricky questions to big mouth Hicks have provoked the fact that a lot of this mess is in the general public's domain now.

      Angry because our club has too much class to be dragged through sh*t backwards like these cu*ts are doing to our beloved LFC.

      Angry because we must feel that way right now - as we have been LIED to and need to get our act together in a pure, simple act of revenge - shout the house tonight peeps.

      PARRY, PARRY, PARRY - OUT, OUT, OUT
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      Reply #40: Jan 21, 2008 02:27:13 pm
      Sell the stakes and go home... dont fXXl around in LFC!! please give way if no money, dont affect LFC develop! LFC is the best! YNWA!.........Sell it as soon as possible! LFC need money to buy quality player! Dont drag RAfa down to the muddy pond! he is good manger only if huge fund available!!!
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