Hooligan Firms -- Have We Ever Had One?

I am really keen to know if Liverpool ever had a firm.

As we all know, hooliganism was a part of football culture once upon a time and it still is. But were there any famous LFC firms, i know that it is not the LFC way to cause trouble and fight etc etc, but have we ever had a fearsome firm, like Milwall, West Ham etc and what where their/are their names?

Anybody know?

YNWA - RTK -J96

Matt

Yer ......... The LFC Urchins were the most prominent i think

Liverpool  The Urchins

This was a firm years ago, i dont no too much about them, only heard there name mentioned a few times in the pub.

Yer ......... The LFC Urchins were the most prominent I think

SNAP.

Brilliant, i will do a bit of research on this group, im not into this kind of hooligan culture of football, im just keen to know!

Thanks lads,

YNWA

Matt

     


ive heard they sorta still exsit .....well I hear about them every time we play Man Utd anyway

Are they a make up of Liverpool Fans all over the world, or just scousers, just keen to know if they were a spread out firm, from all four corners of the UK? Maybe even outside Britain?

YNWA

Matt

Theres recent videos on youtube of them, just search there name Liverpool  Urchins

Are they a make up of Liverpool Fans all over the world, or just scousers, just keen to know if they were a spread out firm, from all four corners of the UK? Maybe even outside Britain?

YNWA

Matt

Are you thinking of joining?

Na , think they were prominently scousers.

Oh yer ive just thought of another .


The Irregulars , although not sure whether they were/are a firm or if they are just some sort of group of fans , seen thier banners everywhere tho

http://www.lfcurchins.co.uk/index.htm

Lmao, na mate not thinking of joining them, just want to know a bit about them, and cheers laz, guess now though it's more worldwide, bet theres members from all over the place, now that Liverpool have global status. Very interesting!

Matt

Haha ! , that feller tied up with tape.

I think that was in the stadio olympico after one of the Roma games , not sure whether it was uefa or champs league...cant remember

HaHa

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/classless-scousers-rise-again-56940/

HaHa

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/classless-scousers-rise-again-56940/

" they even left there web address"

, oh that tickled me deep.

What legends, this group have my utmost respect, class!

YNWA

Matt

Na , think they were prominently scousers.

Oh yer ive just thought of another .


The Irregulars , although not sure whether they were/are a firm or if they are just some sort of group of fans , seen thier banners everywhere tho

The Irregulars are just a group of fans who have representation at every match we play. I was speaking to one of them in Nice in 2004 the day before we played Monaco and he told me the name came from the fact that they came from different places in Merseyside.

but have we ever had a fearsome firm, like Milwall, West Ham etc and what where their/are their names?

I'm surprised (but glad) Cardiff weren't mentioned there!!

I didn't know Liverpool had one though!! Interesting..

The Irregulars are just a group of fans who have representation at every match we play. I was speaking to one of them in Nice in 2004 the day before we played Monaco and he told me the name came from the fact that they came from different places in Merseyside.

Oh right.

Yer as i said , I often see thier flag at away games and thought they might be a firm. Thanks for the info.

You might want to read ' The Boys From The Mersey '

It's a true account from a group of fans in the 70's & 80's

Quote
The Road End united infamous mobs like the Breck Road Firm and the Huyton Baddies into a motley assortment of jibbers, blaggers and bruisers to whom ever 'no entry' sign was a challenge and every price tag a joke.

The book is wriiten by Nicholas Allt and was published in 2004.

It's next on my 'to read' pile.

Oh yer , ive read that. Got it from HMV a while ago.

Thats just reminded me really , Liverpool never really had proper 'firms' just groups of mates who would go all over Europe on the rob , bunking trains and basically havina laugh !

My dad often tells us of stories of him an his mates bunking half way round europe to get to the match , robbing a load of adidas from Germany and sellin em once they got back in school.

......god i wish it was like that now , sounds amazing.


Its a good read anyway tommo , reminiscint of the good old days when liverpool were the best team in europe and didnt have a care in the world !

What legends, this group have my utmost respect, class!

YNWA

Matt

Do you mean the Urchins? If that link is right and it was them who made fun of the Munich accident, then they're no worse than the tw*ts who sing Hillsborough chants and Heysel songs. It's not funny and its not clever when you sing about something where people died. Disgraceful....

HaHa

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/classless-scousers-rise-again-56940/

Interesting way of trying to link to The Sun newspaper.  Do it again and it will most probably be your last post.

And then you complain about the OOTers issue?

The Irregulars are just a group of fans who have representation at every match we play. I was speaking to one of them in Nice in 2004 the day before we played Monaco and he told me the name came from the fact that they came from different places in Merseyside.

Some of them are not even from England however they sing a great version of 2 little boys

Mate i didn't even see that sun newspaper link, or read it, for crying out loud. I wasnt laughing at Munich, thats a childish thing to do, i was laughing at the jokes they play on people, like tying people up around the stadium, the link was just there to show how people react towards what they had done.

People need to understand other peoples points of views on here, i hate the sun with a passion and i dont find slating Munich 58 funny in the slightest, so i think i rightly deserve an apology there JD!

Matt

Great Liverpool song mostly sung in the pubs

Two little boys had two little toys
Each had a wooden horse
Gaily they played each summer's day
Warriors both of course

One little chap then had a mishap
Broke off his horse's head
Wept for his toy then cried with joy
As his young playmate said

Did you think I would leave you crying
When there's room on my horse for two
Climb up here Jack and don't be crying
I can go just as fast with two

When we grow up we'll both be soldiers
And our horses will not be toys
And I wonder if we'll remember
When we were two little boys

Long years had passed, war came so fast
Bravely they marched away
Cannon roared loud, and in the mad crowd
Wounded and dying lay

Up goes a shout, a horse dashes out
Out from the ranks so blue
Gallops away to where Joe lay
Then came a voice he knew

Did you think I would leave you dying
When there's room on my horse for two
Climb up here Joe, we'll soon be flying
I can go just as fast with two

Did you say Joe I'm all a-tremble
Perhaps it's the battle's noise
But I think it's that I remember
When we were two little boys

Do you think I would leave you dying
There's room on my horse for two
Climb up here Joe, we'll soon by flying
Back to the ranks so blue

Can you feel Joe I'm all a tremble
Perhaps it's the battle's noise
But I think it's that I remember
When we were two little boys

So if i am correct in thinking so, these irregulars are from different parts of the world, hence their name?

Most are from Liverpool

Ok thank you my friend!

Just doing a bit of research on them...

YNWA

Matt

They are not hooligans though

Oh right... So they are just a group of fans who go to the games, who have a bit of a laugh and a joke?

Matt

Some of them are not even from England however they sing a great version of 2 little boys

It was on that trip to France when I first saw latest the flag (I Think they had it made that year) and heard them singing two little boys. I thought it was particularly poignant now as the Flag had "did you think we would leave you dying". I felt we were only their for the party and to support our team out of the love we felt. The club was struggling to find investment and it felt like we would never challenge for major honours again. But no matter what we will follow the Reds to the ends of the earth! I had such a good time on that trip (even though we lost 1-0!) that I only missed Juve away in that seasons competion. And little did I know as I sat in the warm winter sun sun of Nice, swinging bottles of Heineken and with a feeling of defeat that I was on a Journey that would end in Istanbul and immortality for my club!

A few lads have just been banned from Anfield after an incident on a train, coming back from Wrexham away.

Anyone else hear this?

Christ, finally been banned a full two weeks or so after they appeared in court, see our admin is as spot on as ever.  :

Christ, finally been banned a full two weeks or so after they appeared in court, see our admin is as spot on as ever.  :

  Almost as quick as Parry. Ridiculous seeing as the incident happened in pre season.

Almost as quick as Parry. Ridiculous seeing as the incident happened in pre season.

Just thought I'd meantion it.

I know of one of the lads.  Went to school with him.

i was over last weekend and i met one of the urchins in a city centre pub.
nice lad,cant remember his name though

Ive heard over the years of lads from up in Netherton/Sefton/Ford in north liverpool having good crews together. especially i think as it stems back to the early 70s cos there was alot of skinhead/suedehead bootboys up them ways who was always in the kop and at the away games who was always fighting. they were renowned for avin a dust up with other areas of bootle back in them days. and the eden vale pub in netherton was the main pub and was like hell in a boozer.
lads down the southend used to call it Bandit Country or The Bad Lands up there. i mean there was knothing else for them to do apart from beat the daylights out of each other and anybody who wasnt from around there kneck of the woods.

Ive actally spoke to a few lads from there in the last few years whove been at a few away games and ive seen them in the kop aswell so they are still knocking about just the sons of. cos one of them was laffin when i was tellin him about what im typing here and he said i dunno about them urchins its the North End Bandits you wanna beware of jim ponchos and pistols we carry.
theyd all be in jail knowadays if they was like there fathers used to be up there. haha the good old days aye.......

What legends, this group have my utmost respect, class!

YNWA

Matt

You dont have to sign off with your name and YNWA after every comment mate

You dont have to sign off with your name and YNWA after every comment mate

Agreed.

YNWA

Danny.

I think in the 80's there was the Anfield Road Enders?

You dont have to sign off with your name and YNWA after every comment mate

I'm sure he appreciates the hint close to three years later

Scousers forte isn't fighting it's thieving     

If you wanted to find  trouble back in the 70's then an afternoon in the Anfield road end would have suited you down to the ground. The sound of Kopites are gobshites form the Annie road home supporters tells the story pretty well. You would often see a huge gap opening up in the middle of the terrace as everything kicked of with the away supporters. Never new they were called urchins though learn something new everyday.

If you wanted to find  trouble back in the 70's then an afternoon in the Anfield road end would have suited you down to the ground. The sound of Kopites are gobshites form the Annie road home supporters tells the story pretty well. You would often see a huge gap opening up in the middle of the terrace as everything kicked of with the away supporters. Never new they were called urchins though learn something new everyday.

Early to mid 80s as well!!

Scousers forte isn't fighting it's thieving      

As several jewellery shops in London, Switzerland and Germany would probably agree with you.

Ah it was always fun walking home through Stanley park where the away coaches parked. Learned how to sprint without the need of blocks.

Have a read of 'The Boys From The Mersey' by Nicky Alt. It examines the 'casual culture' from a Scouse perspective and it's a pretty funny, entertaining read too.

 I do not know about hooligan firms at Anfield but there used to be some big kids in the boys pen that used to scare the sh*t out of the little kids.

Late 69 and 1970 we used to "escort" the I.C.F. (West Ham Inter City Firm) off the trains at Lime Street.
Scarves round our wrists.

 
Special reception was always guaranteed  for the scum on arrival.

Late 69 and 1970 we used to "escort" the I.C.F. (West Ham Inter City Firm) off the trains at Lime Street.
Scarves round our wrists.

 
Special reception was always guaranteed  for the scum on arrival.

The scum used to be escorted from Anfield  by the cops after the match ,some of them still managed to get a hiding though.

Great Liverpool song mostly sung in the pubs

You ll find it was a Rolf Harris song released Christmas 1969.

Written early last century about the  American Civil War .