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      Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important

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      Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Feb 10, 2008 06:00:47 am
      I know immediately you think gerrard but im just looking at it this way, we have many top midfielders but only one top striker. gerrard is in another class to masch and xabi (with all respect to them) but im starting to think that torres is giving us that cutting edge that we have needed for so long. basically I feel more confident with xabi stepping in for gerrard than I do with kuyt stepping in for torres.
      « Last Edit: Feb 11, 2008 01:24:52 am by redkenny »
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #1: Feb 11, 2008 01:34:47 am
      It's ironic you had this thought before the Chelsea game, where obviously we lacked that cutting edge up front that Torres can bring. Yet Gerrard was on the pitch and couldn't provide that cutting edge going forward from the midfield.

      Fair enough, Gerrard isn't fundamentally there to score goals but he has in the past brought that threat - in fact that much so that we've come to rely on him a bit too much I think. When he has a quiet game on the attacking front it's easy to miss out that he's doing his normal job in midfield.

      I'd go with Gerrard. Brings more to the team all over the pitch.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #2: Feb 11, 2008 01:42:38 am
      At the moment I'd go with Torres. Simply because if Gerrard is out injured we've still got quality cover in the middle of the field - Mascherano, Lucas, Alonso.. but if Torres gets injured then who we got to give him quality cover upfront? Crouch? Kuyt? Voronin? Thats who and thats not quality cover in my eyes.

      Asking who is the better player is a totally different question, but who's more important to Liverpool?
      Fernando Torres.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #3: Feb 11, 2008 05:36:03 am
      Torres. Gerrard isnt past it anyway but Torres has stepped up the level up front and SG has very suitable cover if he is out. Still love having both in though.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #4: Feb 11, 2008 06:52:32 am
      They are both important players in there own rights we miss Torres up front but if Gerrard isnt playing we miss him in the middle and when they both dont play we are completly fcuked.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #5: Feb 11, 2008 07:21:28 am
      Iain Rush for me
       :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #6: Feb 11, 2008 08:06:16 am
      Thats like going down memory lane again.Could you imagine Rush and Dalglish playing alongside Torres.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #7: Feb 11, 2008 10:53:48 am
      Both fantastic assests for the team, let's not forget Carra too, Carra is also a key part of this football team!

      Out of Torres and Gerrard, a tough decision....

      But i would have Stevie G! , he is a complete player, all rounder and the most determined soul on a football field!
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      Reply #8: Feb 11, 2008 11:33:22 am
      heres the perfect team:

                                  REINA
      CARRA           CARRA         CARRA      CARRA

      GERRARD      GERRARD      GERRARD   GERRARD

                          TORRES       TORRES

      They all have their roles to play, nobody is more important. Obviously the striker is more exiting than the defender or the mid........but still they all have their roles to play.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #9: Feb 11, 2008 11:36:01 am
      heres the perfect team:

                                  REINA
      CARRA           CARRA         CARRA      CARRA

      GERRARD      GERRARD      GERRARD   GERRARD

                          TORRES       TORRES

      They all have their roles to play, nobody is more important. Obviously the striker is more exiting than the defender or the mid........but still they all have their roles to play.

      Ha Ha:

      I would have this:

                                   REINA
      CARRA           CARRA         CARRA      CARRA

      GERRARD      MASCH        GERRARD   GERRARD

                          TORRES       TORRES
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #10: Feb 11, 2008 11:41:30 am
      No one player is more important than the other how can you rule out carragher after yesterdays performance :f_steam:

      So to answer to the thread i cannot

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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #11: Feb 11, 2008 12:25:21 pm
      Both fantastic assests for the team, let's not forget Carra too, Carra is also a key part of this football team!

      Out of Torres and Gerrard, a tough decision....

      But I would have Stevie G! , he is a complete player, all rounder and the most determined soul on a football field!

      SteveiG no doubt a tremendous world-class player ...when IN FORM... which this season... we have seen very little of...
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #12: Feb 11, 2008 12:59:07 pm
      Ha Ha:

      I would have this:

                                   REINA
      CARRA           CARRA         CARRA      CARRA

      GERRARD      MASCH        GERRARD   GERRARD

                          TORRES       TORRES

      I'd rather have two Mascherano's in there, could you imagine it, they'd be breaking peoples legs while still cleanly getting the ball. Twud be quality!

      On the subject though, at the moment I'd prefer Torres. He's our only stand out striker.

      .....
                      Reina
      Finnan  Carra  Skertal  Riise
                     Masch
        Pennant  Gerrard  Babel
                 Kuyt Crouch

      Or

                   Reina
      Finnan Carra Skertal Riise
                   Masch
       Pennant  Lucas  Babel
             Crouch Torres

      Which team would you rather see? I'd definitely prefer team 2.  ;D
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #13: Feb 11, 2008 02:20:56 pm
      neither are more important. I think your'e mad to think either masch, alonso or lucas can do gerrards job the way he does. and the same for the others strikers doing fernandos job.

      They are both key players and that is it neither more or less important than the other.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #14: Feb 11, 2008 03:57:04 pm
      I would personally say Gerrard because when he hasnt played in the past we have really struggled. Torres is a vital player in the team but in other season we have been able to get goals, like crouch got 19 last season and that was before we signed Torres so thats why I would say Gerrard is more important. He is the heartbeat of the team along with Carra and he rallies the team on to victory. Give it 2 or 3 seasons then without a doubt Torres will be more important
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #15: Feb 11, 2008 07:22:56 pm
      I don't thikn it's necessary to choose who is more important for us.
      They are both important for us! It's a question of the same type as asking a child who he/she loves the most mother or father! Because we all know that for a child the presence of both mother and father is important!

      In football team everyone is important. For there are unimportant players. Team is a mechanism where every one plays his role and has his place.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #16: Feb 11, 2008 07:30:34 pm
      gerrard forever will be the more important
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #17: Feb 11, 2008 07:37:10 pm
      I don't thikn it's necessary to choose who is more important for us.
      They are both important for us! It's a question of the same type as asking a child who he/she loves the most mother or father! Because we all know that for a child the presence of both mother and father is important!

      In football team everyone is important. For there are unimportant players. Team is a mechanism where every one plays his role and has his place.
      Well said Alessio! In a team it is not who is more important, because all 11 players are as important as each other - they all take collective responsibility and when Torres scores a last minute winner against Man United at Old Trafford, it is a team effort that wins the game rather then one player. All for one and United we stand, divided we fall.
      « Last Edit: Feb 11, 2008 07:48:34 pm by F9T »
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #18: Feb 11, 2008 09:23:04 pm
      No one player is more important than the other how can you rule out carragher after yesterdays performance :f_steam:

      So to answer to the thread I cannot

      Liverpool we are as one

      THE 13TH MAN WINS HANDS DOWN

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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #19: Feb 11, 2008 10:27:29 pm
      torres without a doubt is nmore important to LFC.
      we have plenty of more than capable midfielders to fill in for gerrard
      but only one striker with pace and any quality of torres.
      ok so crouch comes close but overall we are like pammie anderson, we have nowt up top but a great mid section!

      gerrard can and shoudl play more on the right to cover our awful flanks !!!
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #20: Feb 11, 2008 11:35:59 pm
      neither are more important. I think your'e mad to think either masch, alonso or lucas can do gerrards job the way he does. and the same for the others strikers doing fernandos job.

      They are both key players and that is it neither more or less important than the other.

      Your wrong! A midfielder has many jobs to do, a striker has one job to do and that is to put the ball in the back of the net and thats what Torres can do and Kuyt, Crouch & Voronin can't do!

      So really Kuyt & Crouch are not doing their jobs properly, simply because they are not scoring or helping us score even. Mascherano is doing a far better job than Gerrard this season, so I think Mascherano is probably just as important as Gerrard is at the moment. I don't look to the reputations, I look at the performances over a fair amount of recent time.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #21: Feb 11, 2008 11:50:07 pm
      At the moment I feel Torres is more important, simply because if Stevie was missing from the team we still have enough good players to create chances for the front men, but if Torres was missing then we could create chances but may still not put them away.

      This may be over simplifying things and both players still bring a lot to the team but overall we would miss Torres more than Gerrard this season.
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      Re: Torres v Gerrard - Who Is More Important
      Reply #22: Feb 11, 2008 11:52:00 pm
      Sometimes I don't think any of our players create many chances, I feel that Torres is the one who creates his own chances and he takes those chances well. Put him in the Arsenal or Man Utd team and he would of scored over 20 Prem goals by now... easily!

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