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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1748: Jan 01, 2015 09:01:33 pm
      As much as I love seeing Chelsea lose in embarrassing fashion, a Spurs lose would have helped us a bit more.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1749: Jan 02, 2015 12:02:42 am
      Struggling in their away games this season.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1750: Jan 02, 2015 12:53:28 pm
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1751: Jan 02, 2015 12:59:38 pm

      As we unlikely to win the league I'd piss myself if Lampard took the title off them chav cu*ts
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      Reply #1752: Jan 02, 2015 02:14:26 pm
      As we unlikely to win the league I'd piss myself if Lampard took the title off them chav cu*ts

      There would be a certain humour to it wouldn't there :lmao:
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      Reply #1753: Jan 02, 2015 02:28:32 pm
      There would be a certain humour to it wouldn't there :lmao:

      Be even better if it's by a single point too seeing as Fat Frank salvaged a point for Coty against the Chavs.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1754: Jan 02, 2015 02:29:19 pm
      Chelsea fans are like a schoolboy in July... They've got no class
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1755: Jan 02, 2015 04:54:02 pm
      As we unlikely to win the league I'd piss myself if Lampard took the title off them chav cu*ts

      As much as I hate the way both of those clubs operate, I tend to have a softer view of City than I do Chelsea. There isn't a player on City I actively dislike. If it's between City and Chelsea, and God forbid United, for the title, then I'm for City 1 million percent.
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      Reply #1756: Jan 03, 2015 06:05:37 am
      Be even better if it's by a single point too seeing as Fat Frank salvaged a point for Coty against the Chavs.

      Even better would be scores, GD and points level on the last day of the season, Chavs game finished and 1 minute of stoppage time left at the Citeh game and Fat Frank steps up to take a penalty to win the Title for Citeh. Poetic F***ing justice.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1757: Jan 03, 2015 08:37:33 am
      Interesting how we think about them as big spenders but if you take a look at the transfer fees of their strongest starting XI right now versus our strongest starting XI right now, ours isn't too far off:

      Courtois - £6m
      Cahill - £7m
      Terry - n/a (academy)
      Azpilicueta - £7m
      Ivanovic - £9m
      Fabregas - £30m
      Matic - £21m
      Ramires - £18m
      Oscar - £25m
      Costa - £32
      Hazard - £32m

      = £187m


      Mignolet - £10m
      Moreno - £15m
      Sakho - £18m
      Johnson - £18m
      Lovren - £20m
      Henderson - £16m
      Gerrard - n/a (academy)
      Coutinho - £9m
      Lallana - £25m
      Markovic - £20m
      Sterling - n/a (academy)

      = £152m

      And that's leaving out Balotelli (£16m) and Sturridge (£12m), who, if added, would bring us darn close to their total fees for their best XI.

      we're not exactly the paupers FSG would like the supporters to believe we are.
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      Reply #1758: Jan 03, 2015 10:06:15 am
      Interesting how we think about them as big spenders but if you take a look at the transfer fees of their strongest starting XI right now versus our strongest starting XI right now, ours isn't too far off:

      Courtois - £6m
      Cahill - £7m
      Terry - n/a (academy)
      Azpilicueta - £7m
      Ivanovic - £9m
      Fabregas - £30m
      Matic - £21m
      Ramires - £18m
      Oscar - £25m
      Costa - £32
      Hazard - £32m

      = £187m


      Mignolet - £10m
      Moreno - £15m
      Sakho - £18m
      Johnson - £18m
      Lovren - £20m
      Henderson - £16m
      Gerrard - n/a (academy)
      Coutinho - £9m
      Lallana - £25m
      Markovic - £20m
      Sterling - n/a (academy)

      = £152m

      And that's leaving out Balotelli (£16m) and Sturridge (£12m), who, if added, would bring us darn close to their total fees for their best XI.

      we're not exactly the paupers FSG would like the supporters to believe we are.

      You need to include the wages and you might see a condiderable disparity.

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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1759: Jan 03, 2015 11:10:18 am
      Interesting how we think about them as big spenders but if you take a look at the transfer fees of their strongest starting XI right now versus our strongest starting XI right now, ours isn't too far off:

      Courtois - £6m
      Cahill - £7m
      Terry - n/a (academy)
      Azpilicueta - £7m
      Ivanovic - £9m
      Fabregas - £30m
      Matic - £21m
      Ramires - £18m
      Oscar - £25m
      Costa - £32
      Hazard - £32m

      = £187m


      Mignolet - £10m
      Moreno - £15m
      Sakho - £18m
      Johnson - £18m
      Lovren - £20m
      Henderson - £16m
      Gerrard - n/a (academy)
      Coutinho - £9m
      Lallana - £25m
      Markovic - £20m
      Sterling - n/a (academy)

      = £152m

      And that's leaving out Balotelli (£16m) and Sturridge (£12m), who, if added, would bring us darn close to their total fees for their best XI.

      we're not exactly the paupers FSG would like the supporters to believe we are.

      For what it's worth, sterling actually cost around 500k from QPR.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1760: Jan 03, 2015 12:29:46 pm
      The versus Tottenham game is a classic. wished I watched it live. The highlights are so exciting.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1761: Jan 03, 2015 02:17:40 pm
      Interesting how we think about them as big spenders but if you take a look at the transfer fees of their strongest starting XI right now versus our strongest starting XI right now, ours isn't too far off:

      Courtois - £6m
      Cahill - £7m
      Terry - n/a (academy)
      Azpilicueta - £7m
      Ivanovic - £9m
      Fabregas - £30m
      Matic - £21m
      Ramires - £18m
      Oscar - £25m
      Costa - £32
      Hazard - £32m

      = £187m


      Mignolet - £10m
      Moreno - £15m
      Sakho - £18m
      Johnson - £18m
      Lovren - £20m
      Henderson - £16m
      Gerrard - n/a (academy)
      Coutinho - £9m
      Lallana - £25m
      Markovic - £20m
      Sterling - n/a (academy)

      = £152m

      And that's leaving out Balotelli (£16m) and Sturridge (£12m), who, if added, would bring us darn close to their total fees for their best XI.

      we're not exactly the paupers FSG would like the supporters to believe we are.

      You need to include the wages and you might see a condiderable disparity.



      And the timing, year and scenarios involving most of those transfers.

      Courtois - £6m // Mignolet - £10m

      Courtois was purchased, at the age of 19, in 2011 after breaking through at Genk in the Belgian Pro League.

      Mignolet was 25, bought in 2013, and was already an established Premier League keeper. Besides, Mignolet cost £9m, not £10m.

      Cahill - £7m // Sakho - £18m

      Cahill was 26 at the time and on the last six months of his contract at Bolton. It was damn good business by Chelsea because he's a quality CB, but let's be honest here: Bolton's hands were tied. They could have either accepted a fee below Cahill's value or let him go on a free.

      Sakho was 23 and coming from PSG, a team he captained at all levels since he was in the academy. It's not like PSG need the money, so we overpaid a touch here, but by how much considering it was the summer window and Sakho's reputation in France?

      Azpilicueta - £7m // Moreno - £15m

      Azpilicueta was a GREAT signing by Chelsea. No doubt about this one. He looked like garbage his first few games, but really stepped up and became an integral part of their backline.

      Moreno actually cost £12m, not £15m. He's only been here 6 months. He could still turn out to be a monster of a player and a bargain at £12m.

      Terry - n/a (academy) // Lovren - £20m

      Laughable gulf of quality. Shaking my head.

      Ivanovic - £9m // Johnson - £18m

      Ivanovic is quality, but bought from Lokomotiv Moscow, in fairness.

      Johnson is much more complicated. While he was bought from Portsmouth, part of the reason he was bought from Portsmouth was that they still owed us £7m for Peter Crouch. Take that into context, and Johnson's fee looks more like £11m than the whopping £18m we paid for him. (On a side note, this was the era when Rafa couldn't get the players he wanted because Hicks and Gillett were siphoning money out of the club.)

      Fabregas - £30m // Henderson - £16m

      Really no comparison. I like Henderson, but Fabregas is world class. £30m is looking like a real bargain right now.

      Matic - £21m // Gerrard - n/a (academy)

      Matic used to be a Chelsea player, then they didn't give him a chance, then they realized "Hey this guy is actually good," so they scrambled to get him back last winter. Everything that's wrong with that club in one transfer.

      Ramires - £18m // Lallana - £25m

      Ramires joined in 2010, Lallana obviously this year when there was a much greater influx of money in the league the past two seasons due to sponsorship, new TV deal, and overall revenue. When you take that into context, the fees aren't terribly dissimilar. Besides, I think Lallana's a better player, personally. £25m was a tad high, though.

      Oscar - £25m // Coutinho - £9m

      Oscar has what Coutinho lacks: Goals. Coutinho has what Oscar lacks: Great vision. For fairly similar players, I think we got the better deal. £25m to Internacional vs £9m (in winter, even!) to Inter Milan.

      Hazard - £32m // Markovic - £20m

      Hazard, like Fabregas, looks like another bargain for Chelsea. Markovic has pretty high potential, but £20m was steep.

      Costa - £32m // Sterling - n/a (academy), Balotelli (£16m) and Sturridge (£12m)

      Costa was a good signing -- he fits exactly what Chelsea need.

      I rate a completely fit Sturridge higher though (obviously, a completely fit Sturridge is the complicating factor). Even with his injuries, £12m was a steal for a player who has one of if not THE best goals-to-games ratio in Liverpool history. Balotelli was a waste of money. The only game he looked good in was, ironically, when he played next to Sturridge. As mentioned above, Sterling actually cost us money: £600,000 rising to £5 million.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1762: Jan 03, 2015 02:28:28 pm
      we're not exactly the paupers FSG would like the supporters to believe we are.

      I'm a bit confused now, are they good owners or bad owners because they've spent money?

      Or is it simply that whatever they do can be given a negative slant?
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1763: Jan 03, 2015 02:40:15 pm
      I f**king detest Chelsea Football Club and hope they win F**k all this season.

      Just thought I'd pop in and say that.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1764: Jan 04, 2015 06:57:14 am
      I f**king detest Chelsea Football Club and hope they win f**k all this season.

      Just thought I'd pop in and say that.

      I 2nd that...hate the bunch of cu*ts.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1765: Jan 05, 2015 11:59:20 pm
      Apparently messi is sulking and started to follow chelsea and their players.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1766: Jan 06, 2015 01:56:24 am
      Interesting how we think about them as big spenders but if you take a look at the transfer fees of their strongest starting XI right now versus our strongest starting XI right now, ours isn't too far off:

      Courtois - £6m
      Cahill - £7m
      Terry - n/a (academy)
      Azpilicueta - £7m
      Ivanovic - £9m
      Fabregas - £30m
      Matic - £21m
      Ramires - £18m
      Oscar - £25m
      Costa - £32
      Hazard - £32m

      = £187m


      Mignolet - £10m
      Moreno - £15m
      Sakho - £18m
      Johnson - £18m
      Lovren - £20m
      Henderson - £16m
      Gerrard - n/a (academy)
      Coutinho - £9m
      Lallana - £25m
      Markovic - £20m
      Sterling - n/a (academy)

      = £152m

      And that's leaving out Balotelli (£16m) and Sturridge (£12m), who, if added, would bring us darn close to their total fees for their best XI.

      we're not exactly the paupers FSG would like the supporters to believe we are.

      After a decade of spending by Chelsea with Roman writing off the billion loan, you would expect them to ease off the gas given their squad. I think the wages are little bit different too. And as for their best 11, what about their worst 11 and the wages they are on and their loaned 11 (111) and the cost there.
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      Re: The Official Despise Chelsea Thread
      Reply #1767: Jan 06, 2015 12:48:24 pm
      Apparently messi is sulking and started to follow chelsea and their players.

      I hope he has a strong stomach.. F**k knows what you would see looking through John Terry's window
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      Reply #1768: Jan 06, 2015 09:20:49 pm
      I hope he has a strong stomach.. F**k knows what you would see looking through John Terry's window

      Yeah because Chelsea could afford Messi.

      Well technically they probably can but with FFP they can't, nobody can except Real Madrid.
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      Reply #1769: Jan 06, 2015 10:16:59 pm
      Aren't Barca banned from selling players anyway?
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      Reply #1770: Jan 06, 2015 10:18:19 pm
      Aren't Barca banned from selling players anyway?

      Just signing them I think mate.

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