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      Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      May 06, 2008 07:15:11 pm
      Berger no longer a Villain
      Czech star pays the price for Barry comments

      Martin O'Neill has informed Patrick Berger that his career at Villa Park is over.
      The Czech midfielder is out of contract in the summer, but following his remarks on the future of Gareth Barry he is no longer part of the manager's plans.
      On Monday, Berger urged the Villa skipper to quit the club in favour of a "once in a lifetime" opportunity at his former side Liverpool.
      O'Neill is doing all he can to persuade his captain to reject the overtures of the Reds and, despite receiving an apology from Berger, is livid that his attempts have been put in jeopardy by one of his own players.
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      "I was really disappointed and surprised that Patrick, with all his experience of dealing with the press, would make such an inappropriate comment," the Villa boss told the club's official website.
      "The sad aspect of it is that we are paying Patrick's wages for him to recommend one of our players to another football club. It's ludicrous.
      "I think Pat realises that now and he's apologised. He said the didn't mean a great deal of harm but the harm's been done and he won't be playing any part in proceedings from here on in."

      Poor Paddy Berger has paid the price for advising Barry to maek the best move of his career. But we will thank him if Barry joins us.
      « Last Edit: May 06, 2008 08:22:30 pm by JD »
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      Re: Patrik Berger
      Reply #1: May 06, 2008 08:05:54 pm
      F**K off O'nil. ;)

      Great Advise Berger. Ynwa.
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      Re: Patrik Berger
      Reply #2: May 06, 2008 08:09:04 pm
      Saw that on SSn before, at least Patrik tells the truth  ;) :D
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      Reply #3: May 06, 2008 08:14:18 pm
      Patrick is right though. If Barry passes up this oppotunity, even if they make the Uefa cup, he belongs in a white jacket.
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      Re: Patrik Berger
      Reply #4: May 06, 2008 08:20:17 pm
      I wonder if he would have done the same if Carson had said the same.  I very much doubt it.  Patrik did his job by speaking the honest truth and ONeil wasn't going to extend his contract anyway.  Patrik has had a long career at the very top of his profession.  If he wants to do some scouting I'm sure we can accommodate for him. ;)
      « Last Edit: May 06, 2008 08:22:58 pm by king kenny »
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      Re: Patrik Berger
      Reply #5: May 06, 2008 08:22:09 pm
      Super Paddy Berger!
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #6: May 06, 2008 08:33:46 pm
      all this talk of burgers is making me hungry im off to berger king to get me a a double barry burger with a side of class


      oh yeah and a message to Martin o'Neil

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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #7: May 06, 2008 08:43:54 pm
      Yet more sensationalism from the media, Berger was already on his way before he made those comments.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #8: May 06, 2008 08:47:50 pm
      Cant fault berger for his comments there.

      But I can also understand where O 'neil is coming from
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #9: May 06, 2008 08:59:26 pm
      O'Neil only used Patrick from the bench for most of the season I believe so why shouldn't he advise a fellow pro where to go if given the chance like he said you do not get that many offers to finish your career at one of the top clubs. Matt Le Tissier is a prime example of a guy who stayed put when his ability deserved better and what does he have to look back on, nothing more than a few tribute vases, don't let that be you in 6yrs Gareth
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #10: May 06, 2008 09:03:15 pm
      O'Neil only used Patrick from the bench for most of the season I believe so why shouldn't he advise a fellow pro where to go if given the chance like he said you do not get that many offers to finish your career at one of the top clubs. Matt Le Tissier is a prime example of a guy who stayed put when his ability deserved better and what does he have to look back on, nothing more than a few tribute vases, don't let that be you in 6yrs Gareth

      Good shout mate, I really do feel for Le Tissier because I truely believe he is one of the most underated English players of all time.  I think we should send him a post card with Matt Le tissier's photo on it.  That should do the job!
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      Reply #11: May 06, 2008 09:04:50 pm
      Good shout mate, I really do feel for Le Tissier because I truely believe he is one of the most underated English players of all time.  I think we should send him a post card with Matt Le tissier's photo on it.  That should do the job!

      He's a right tw*t when he's doing our games on Soccer Saturday though!
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #12: May 06, 2008 09:04:55 pm
      Berger was simply giving his opinion, he was going anyway but still cant blame him for saying liverpool is a big opportunity because it is.

      I dont want Barry but think him and Gerrard might link up well.

      If Alonso is going at least get a better replacement not a stepdown.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #13: May 06, 2008 09:11:34 pm
      He's a right tw*t when he's doing our games on Soccer Saturday though!

      I know what your saying, but just from a footballing point of view the guy had it all.  And even though it was his choice and only his mistake, I will never believe that he doesn't regret it no matter what he says.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #14: May 06, 2008 09:55:32 pm
      I think Berger's comments were spot on and O'Neil just took it the wrong way and is bang out of order. Berger can do better than a shitty midlands club anyway
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #15: May 06, 2008 10:05:57 pm
      If one of our players came out saying they advised one of our best players to leave for a better club, then I'd be livid. So I can understand where O'Neil is coming from.

      But well said Berger. You know your stuff..  :D :D
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #16: May 06, 2008 10:11:17 pm

      But well said Berger. You know your stuff..  :D :D

      He bloody well should know his stuff after the amount of time he spent at the club ;D
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #17: May 06, 2008 10:11:52 pm
      Yet more sensationalism from the media, Berger was already on his way before he made those comments.

      Spot on Eddie. I saw this in an article yesterday that said he is going back to the Czech Rep. after this season.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #18: May 07, 2008 12:01:35 am
      Patrick has probably only said this to, or about Barry, because he knew he was already on his way out of villa. It's a sort of revenge as he wasn't played regularly by oneil. He is also probably aware that Barry realy wants to join Liverpool and is just saying 'F**k you' as a parting gesture to oneil. Barry will know, as any top pro will, you have to be amongst the top four to reach your highest goals regularly in the prem. The thing is, do we realy want Barry at Anfield. I'm still notconvinced he's top drawer.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #19: May 07, 2008 12:08:57 am
      If one of our players came out saying they advised one of our best players to leave for a better club, then I'd be livid. So I can understand where O'Neil is coming from.

      But well said Berger. You know your stuff..  :D :D

      Very true has to be looked at from both sides.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #20: May 07, 2008 01:09:13 am
      Patrik Berger la la la la, la la la la la la
      Oh Patrik Berger, la la la

      O'Neil's getting all shirty over this Barry Business isn't he, cos were not playing game and paying full wack for him Eh!

      Can understand his reasoning though, Hargreaves/Carrick 18 million apiece - both England internationals so 15m for Barry?

      Bit harsh on Paddy though - F**k o'neil be funny if paddy signed for Birmingham (if they stay up) and scored against them or sign for a team that could meet them in the inter-toto, cos they way they've played the last three games they've all but offered Everton the Uefa cup place.
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      Reply #21: May 07, 2008 10:17:42 am
      I think Paddy Berger knew he was on the way out of Villa anyway so he had nothing to lose by speaking honestly.ONeill is just using this as an excuse to get rid of Paddy.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #22: May 07, 2008 10:22:50 am
      If one of our players came out saying they advised one of our best players to leave for a better club.

      Better club? What is this better club you speak of? Surely your off your head kenny ;)
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      Reply #23: May 07, 2008 10:35:41 am
      I think Paddy Berger knew he was on the way out of Villa anyway so he had nothing to lose by speaking honestly.ONeill is just using this as an excuse to get rid of Paddy.

      Without a doubt mate. Here's one of the original articles published when Berger first made his comments:

      Barry is leaving Villa - Berger

      Patrik Berger believes Gareth Barryā€™s exit from Villa this summer is inevitable - as Arsenal looked poised to join the bidding for him.

      Liverpool are favourites to sign Barry and the signs are the Reds are the Villa captainā€™s preferred destination as they look to replace Xabi Alonso, who is set to leave Anfield.

      But Arsenal, who will lose Mathieu Flamini in the summer, are also interested and are likely to match Liverpoolā€™s bid.

      Chelsea are also in the frame, especially if Frank Lampard seeks a way out of Stamford Bridge.

      With all potential suitors offering Championsā€™ League football, Barryā€™s future could now come down to who tables the most lucrative offer to him.

      Villaā€™s former Anfield favourite Berger, who won three cups with Liverpool in 2001, insists Barry should join Rafa Benitezā€™s side.

      ā€œGareth knows my opinion - Iā€™ve told him, itā€™s Liverpool and if I was in his position Iā€™d go there tomorrow,ā€ said Berger.ā€Itā€™s the opportunity of a lifetime. Iā€™d go and experience it. Heā€™s the heart of our team and it would be a massive challenge for him.

      ā€œIt would be Champions League every year and heā€™d be challenging to win trophies every year.Liverpool doesnā€™t come after you every year. But Iā€™m not surprised they want to sign him.

      ā€œThey want him because heā€™s had a fantastic season and he played very well for the national team as well.ā€

      Out of contract Berger also revealed he is quitting Villa for possibly one last Premier League hurrah. Portsmouth are interested.

      ā€œI havenā€™t decided yet but Iā€™m looking to spend at least another year in the Premier League with another club before going home,ā€ he said.


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      He was already on his way well before he made these comments. All O'Neill actually said was that he won't be playing a part in proceedings due to his comments, meaning the last game of the season, no mention of this being the reason he is leaving the club. The media, as usual, have jumped on this story & tried to turn it into something it isn't, saying that his comments are the reason he's leaving the club when they're clearly not.
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      Reply #24: May 07, 2008 10:44:18 am
      Eddie thanks for that it makes a good read and also shows the true situation and not some headline grabbing reporters take on the situation.
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      Reply #25: May 07, 2008 11:18:32 am
      Been doing some research on Villa forums, they are a bunch of bitter bas**rds let me tell ya! All attacking our club and saying how sh*t we are without Gerrard and Torres and are bullying them. Some are asking for 20 million but get this, thats in comparison to MASCH! One man said: 'If Mascherano was 17 million then Barry is 25 million' FKN LUDACRIS! We're going to be priced out of this one unless we act fast.
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      Reply #26: May 07, 2008 12:16:56 pm
      Seems like the media have blown this out of proportion again Paddy Berger was on his way even before he made these comments,which are true by the way come on Barry sign for a proper team.
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      Reply #27: May 07, 2008 02:26:27 pm
      It would be brilliant to see a player from Hastings, Kent (Kent being where im from) playing for the club of my dreams.

      I rate Barry highly, he works extremely hard, i wouldnt say he's world class by any means necessary, but he's a perfect team player and a determined individual.

      Rafa sign him up!


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      Reply #28: May 07, 2008 04:04:59 pm
      I Agree.
      Barry would be a great addition to the club. Well done Patrik.
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      Reply #29: May 07, 2008 05:37:19 pm
      Hmmm... Still not convinced Barry is better than Xavi...

      To pay over 15 mil for a "Team player" is a joke... WE NEED WORLD CLASS ADDITIONS!!!

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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #30: May 07, 2008 10:27:31 pm
      Been doing some research on Villa forums, they are a bunch of bitter bas**rds let me tell ya! All attacking our club and saying how sh*t we are without Gerrard and Torres and are bullying them. Some are asking for 20 million but get this, thats in comparison to MASCH! One man said: 'If Mascherano was 17 million then Barry is 25 million' FKN LUDACRIS! We're going to be priced out of this one unless we act fast.

      What has an American Hip-Hop star got to do with anything ???
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #31: May 07, 2008 10:53:26 pm
      Theres some right F***ing dross being posted on a Villa forum I had a look on. It really is F***ing child like!

      Few posts admiring our young reserve players though ;)
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #32: May 08, 2008 08:33:32 am
      What has an American Hip-Hop star got to do with anything ???

      Pardon the grammar. Meant Ludicrous.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #33: May 08, 2008 09:11:31 am
       I hope you lads who visited the Villa forum got decontaminated B4 you came back home to LFCREDS.COM forum. ;D After all this is a disease free forum.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #34: May 08, 2008 11:33:28 pm
      What has an American Hip-Hop star got to do with anything ???

       :lmao:
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      Reply #35: May 10, 2008 06:46:16 pm
      Just a few points on this...

      F**k Barry. Not needed, Alonso is miles better than him.

      O'Neill is a top quality manager who has every right to be incensed at Berger's comments.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #36: May 11, 2008 02:05:33 am
      I wonder what club Berger will be at next season now he wont be at villa, i think he could go to Stoke.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #37: May 11, 2008 08:11:30 am
      Is Gareth Barry really worth all this fuss? As i said in another thread, I can only see him playing left mid, and for a little more than 10mill we could get someone much better.

      I reckon that Rafa is going for English players because F***ing Sepp Blatter is trying to bring in the '6 plus 5' rule.

      Good player Barry is, but he definitely isn't worth all this fuss.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #38: May 11, 2008 11:39:02 am
      Berger's form and age cost him his job...the rest is cheap excuses. End of.
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      Reply #39: May 11, 2008 03:43:50 pm
      Theres some right F***ing dross being posted on a Villa forum I had a look on. It really is F***ing child like!

      Few posts admiring our young reserve players though ;)

      Aston Villa have some good youth of there own actually- players like Adam Mcgurk, Yago Bellon, Zoltan Steiber and Nathan Delofounoso have shown promise.
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      Re: Patrik Berger's Liverpool remarks cost his job
      Reply #40: May 11, 2008 04:17:10 pm
      Aston Villa have some good youth of there own actually- players like Adam Mcgurk, Yago Bellon, Zoltan Steiber and Nathan Delofounoso have shown promise.

      Weren't good enough to beat ours the other day though! ;)

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